I just want to make sure im getting this right
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Posted by lululymemom (Member # 26405) on :
The detoxing may very well shorten the duration of your herxes and lessen the intensity. Of course it depends on the bacterial load that you have but generally speaking it did help my daughter with her herxes.
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Posted by FuzzySlippers (Member # 13658) on :
Hi Nicole,
Yes, detoxing does help many people with easing some of their herx symptoms. A good Lyme doctor can actually help you with suggestions on supplements/herbs that you can try to help with your symptoms while you're in treatment.
I think a "must have" book for Lyme patients is "The Lyme Disease Solution," by Dr. S. It's available for purchase on Amazon and also here:
Many of the questions you've been asking can be answered by reading this book. It's really helpful to have a copy on hand.
I'm pasting the information from the above link here -- it's an explanation of Herxheimer reactions with Lyme treatment.
By the way, herxing can also occur when we treat many of the other co-infections that we Lyme patients typically have (i.e., Bartonella, Babesia, Mycoplasmas, Epstein Barr Viruses, Herpes Viruses, etc.).
From the Book:
"Within a few days (usually one to three) after beginning antibiotic therapy, it is common for many patients with Lyme to suddenly begin experiencing a worsening of their symptoms. In some cases, this experience can be extremely uncomfortable. Additionally, it can also be mistaken as an allergic reaction to the antibiotic drugs that have been prescribed. In actuality, this reaction is a positive sign that the antibiotics are working and is known as the Jarish-Herxheimer reaction. Commonly this name is abbreviated to Herxheimer, or simply �Herx.�
A Herxheimer occurs because the Bb bacteria, under attack from the antibiotics, start to break up and die, releasing toxins and other harmful debris as they do so. This, in turn, causes the body�s immune system to temporarily go into overdrive in order to cope with the abrupt deluge of toxins and debris.
A Herxheimer can last from a few days to two weeks or more, depending on how disseminated the Bb bacteria is in the body. The greater the dissemination, generally the longer a Herxheimer will last. During this time, in addition to the temporary worsening of previous Lyme symptoms, one may also experience chills, fevers, headache, nausea, and even a drop in blood pressure levels. Don�t be alarmed by this, and don�t stop taking the antibiotics that have been prescribed. Do, however, contact your physician to let him know what you are experiencing, so that he can determine if your symptoms are due to Herxheimer and rule out a true allergic response to the drugs. Two �natural� ways to reduce the symptoms of Herxheimers are hydration (2 to 3 quarts of quality water a day) and the bioflavonoid quercitin (500�1500 mg per day).
Another important consideration to be aware of is that major Herxes generally occur during the Bb bacteria�s growth phase (which phase is also known as a �Lyme cycle�). This is also the time during the Bb bacteria�s life cycle that antibiotics are most effective in eradicating them, since they are most vulnerable during this phase. Lyme�s growth phase occurs approximately every three to four weeks (up to six weeks maximum), and therefore, intermittent symptom flare-ups or Herxes usually also will occur at those same intervals. These cyclerelated Herxes continue to occur over time until a sufficient quantity of Bb has been killed off. In most cases, symptoms of subsequent Herxheimer reactions are shorter and less severe than the initial one, indicating that treatment is progressing successfully. If your reactions continue to be of the same severity and duration, this may be a sign that there is dysregulation of your immune system that needs to be addressed or that the antibiotic regimen may need adjustment. Also, there are times when untreated co-infections need immediate attention, after which time Lyme can be successfully addressed. Whatever the cause, it is important to alert your physician if your Herxheimer symptoms continue unabated."
Hope this helps!
Posted by Nicole2011 (Member # 30672) on :
Thanks that helps alot
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