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Posted by brownlymie (Member # 31032) on :
 
Hello all,

I am back to see if anyone knows the answer to this problem. I was given some speculations [which i listed]...

Concern: I have been getting back pains in my lower back and it travels through to my right leg when I eat. Mind you, none of this started until i got on antibiotics.

I was told its inflammation caused from toxins build up.
I was told it was referred pain???
I was also told GERD can do this???
I was told that GI problems or Gallbladder could be the issue.

I am so very concerned mainly because this pain only comes on when I eat & lasts for hours. Now if it was constant or unrelated to eating...that pill I could better, but why only when I eat. Mind you, I eat slowly and I have been eat all healthly foods.

I forgot to mention, I am going off antibiotics for a week until I see this Dr. of internal medicine who treats lyme. Hope she is lyme literate and helpful. Meanwhile...please respond with insight folks...thank you
 
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
 
Pain traveling down your leg is indicative of sciatica but who knows with lyme.

Back pain is such a common ailment that it is difficult to know what the cause is just by reading what you've posted.

If it were gallbladder, you would have scleral icterus which is a yellowing of the white part of you eyes. But the pain is not typically in the lower back. It is usually between the shoulder blades or to the right and can be especially severe after eating fatty foods. Of course, not everyone displays 'typical' symptoms.

As for GI involvement...that is possible. Is the pain only on one side? Does anything make it better or worse? Is it sharp, dull, stabbing, achy? When do you get relief? These are some of the questions you need to think about. It may help narrow down the possibilities.

You say you are eating healthy foods. Do you notice if raw fruits and veggies make it worse? I ask because I know of someone who had problems with their illeocecal valve and raw foods made the pain unbearable. Other than what I have heard from her, I know nothing about this problem.

As for GERD, the pain I get is usually in my left upper back and I'm not sure if it can cause low back pain or not.

If the pain persists, I would go to the doctor.
 
Posted by brownlymie (Member # 31032) on :
 
I have already went to the dr as a walk in. I also talked to my lyme treating dr and both said its GERD. Problem Im having with those claims are that Ive suffered from bad GERD a long time ago but it went away. And I NEVER had back pains... Im so lost. Well Imma try to stay put til the 27th as I have a GI appt then. All this never started until I began taking antibx :-(
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
GERD does not cause pain in the legs...good grief!!!

Spinal stenosis in the lumbar spine can cause pain such as you describe from any small amount of increase in inflammation.

The vegas nerve can become irritated by Lyme. So I have to wonder if there are some other nerves that can also be irritated by Lyme that could potentially do what you are experiencing, such as the sciatic nerve.

An MRI may reveal the spinal stenosis, if you want to go that route.

Acupuncture may help.

Homeopathic medicine may also help - I have found homeopathic Hypericum and homeopathic Causticum to help with my own low back/leg pains, if I take them within a few minutes of the pain starting up.

So I do not think this is from what you are eating, but rather I think it is due to the changes in fluid balance and circulation that are triggered when you eat. Have you been taking probiotics? Have you been tested for yeast/Candida in stool (blood tests are not reliable)?

Just some thoughts....
 
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
 
It sounds like sciatica, which is nerve entrapment from either your lumbar vertabrae being out of alignment or tight muscles in the glutes.

Seeing a good osteopath or chiropractor can help. As can getting Physical therapy rx'd by a dr and going to a good PT.

It doesn't sound related to GERD or eating particularly---unless two different things are happening simultaneously. (I've been working with sciatica, etc. as a practitioner for decades, so I know. I don't know you, but I know symptoms).
 
Posted by tlime (Member # 29508) on :
 
lot's of conclusions to go around....I once had a dr say my esophagus problem could not be related to my lower gi problem...what?!!!
yes, the knee bone is connected to the neck bone!
let's face it, there is a lot of 'sorting out' to done in the management of this 'condition' we live with.

If the problem comes after eating, then do something about your food.

Healthy is one thing but clearly not the solution. I have figured out my gut issue first by following the 'leaky gut' recommendations to get it calmed down then from there I have been able to add back a few things like potatoes.

you can google leaky gut, it's gluten & dairy free, no nightshades, low sugar, low fat I think. Yes I cheat and I know very soon after.

who can say if it will help your back and leg pain but your gut may feel better, that said , you'll go to the gi/md who will have a totally different or indifferent idea....
 
Posted by brownlymie (Member # 31032) on :
 
Well guys...Imma start with the candida thing, even prior to antibx..i have always had a sensitive gut and i have researched to learn that antibx promote yeast especially with a weakend immune system[like i have]. i will be doing some probiotics and yeast herbs. i have an appt to go to see a GI specialist in the next week and a half.
 
Posted by littlebit27 (Member # 24477) on :
 
I had a lot of sciatica problems when I first started getting sick. Now I still have back pain but it's always in the same place and doesn't shoot down my leg.

I, as well as a few LLMDs I've seen, agree the sciatica was likely due to the Lyme and Co-infections.

Good Luck to you.
 
Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
 
brownlymie, pain only when you eat? Or does that start pain that continues after eating? Just wanting a clearer understanding?

Pam
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by brownlymie:
i have an appt to go to see a GI specialist in the next week and a half.

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It's good that you are going to see a GI dr. Just piping up to let you know that 95% of GI drs don't believe in candida .. go figure.

You may have other problems that need to be addressed so it's good that you will see one.
 


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