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Posted by feelbetter (Member # 21957) on :
 
Since April,I start to feel lots of heartburn,stomach,gallbladder pain,nausea,lose appetite.

I have done endoscope which show normal so I think the problem its from my gallbladder,but all my ultrasound,hida scan also normal and I have talk to sergeon about to take out my gallbladder to see if it will help but he rufuse to do it since there is no evidence said that my gallbladder has problem..

Its been 4 month having this GI issue,don't know what to do now..anyone have same experience?
 
Posted by one4islands (Member # 28187) on :
 
I know several people whose gallbladder issues did not show up on any test and they had troubles.

Could you tell us more in detail what your symptoms are?

Does the nausea, heartburn, aches come with without food?

Do you take Prilosec, Nexium or anything like that?

Maybe with more details we can help you.
 
Posted by one4islands (Member # 28187) on :
 
I just found this post from someone else regarding a different topic.

Cut and pasted for you to read.

"For years before I was diagnosed with LD I had stomach pain, severe heartburn & gall bladder symptoms, nausea, vomiting. They were fairly regular, nexium seemed to help a bit. Gall bladder tested fine, Gastro doc wanted to do a scope but I delayed. Then I had some allergy testing done at a major univ. hospital. I developed food allergies to multiple foods that I was eating every day. Now, I completely avoid these & all of my stomach symptoms have resolved. But, even the smallest amount of residue can make me very sick.

Thought I'd mention it just in case..."
 
Posted by AZURE WISH (Member # 804) on :
 
Did your gi dr ask you if certain foods aggravate or cause your symptoms? Do they?

did he also ask you all meds supplements u r on or were on (especailly were you on rocephin. which can cause gallbladder issues, doxy which can cause stomach issues) ?
 
Posted by feelbetter (Member # 21957) on :
 
my symptoms are upper abdomen pain especially right side,nausea,lose appetite,keep belching

feel this all day long ,not relate to eat food or not.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Had those symptoms for years and also had severe abd. pain and projectile vomiting and was rushed to hospital. Had a gallbladder stone and was rushed back to the hospital.

My doc removed my gallbladder and was rushed back to hospital 2 days later with same symptoms. The problem was undiagnosed parasites. Look in to and do a search on here for parasites.


A co-infection that is often overlooked. Try and keep your gallbladder, I wish I had kept mine.

Gael
 
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
 
Human Intestinal Parasites Symptoms
Common symptoms of intestinal parasites, which may be prominent include mild diarrhea with waxing and waning course, nausea and sensation of itching around the anus. Minor symptoms such as headaches, extreme fatigue, increased appetite and restlessness may also occur.

The person may also come up with runny nose and even blisters on the mouth. Apart from these intestinal parasite symptoms which generally crop up, there are others like mucus in the bowel movement, bloating, flatulence (a state of excessive gas in the alimentary canal), weight loss, pale skin, tiredness and tingling sensations. Joint pain, chronic fatigue and increased vulnerability to falling sick more frequently, also indicate an infection of intestinal parasites.

Bad smelling stools, blood in stools (with occasional pus), rashes and abdominal cramps are the symptoms, which indicate that the infection has progressed to a more severe stage. One of the most prominent intestinal parasites symptoms is the presence of worms or eggs in the stool itself.

The above section dealt with all the possible intestinal parasites symptoms which patients may complaint about. Now let's come to another important section; treatment of the infection.

Treatment for Intestinal Parasites
Regarding the course of medications, which are targeted towards the treatment of the intestinal parasites infection, the exact regimen as prescribed by the doctor should be followed. Usually anti-parasitic drugs such as mebendazole (vermox), thiabendazole (mintezol), metronidazole (flagyl), nitazoxanide (alinia), etc., are prescribed, depending on the type of the parasite which has caused the infection.

Whilst the treatment, one must refrain from taking simple carbohydrates which are found in refined foods, fruits, juices, dairy products and all sugars. Foods such as garlic, pumpkin seeds, pomegranates, beets and carrots posses anti-worm properties and so are beneficial when it comes to aiding a speedy recovery. Include high fiber fruits and vegetables and drink plenty of water to improve bowel movements.

Herbs such as barberry, Oregon grape, teat tree oil, wormwood, curled mint, black walnuts also form an effective part of the treatment of the intestinal parasites symptoms. However, before administering such products, it is wise to consult your health care provider.
 
Posted by Lymeorsomething (Member # 16359) on :
 
I get right upper ab spasm-y type feelings (not usually (pain)... It's not a gallstone in my case. Perhaps lyme or co's are retreating into that area for whatever reason.

Try a proton pump inhibitor with your meds and see what goes down.

There are natural gallstone flushes but they can be risky since the gallstone can travel and get stuck further down the plumbing.
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
Lyme (and/or coinfections) can cause these symptoms (see http://thehumansideoflyme.net/viewarticle.php?aid=62 for more about this)... Treating the Lyme/Coinfections should help.

Could be Sphincter of Oddi spasms - which won't show up on tests if tests aren't done while it is spasming...I don't know what the treatment is for this, but I would think magnesium, potassium and calcium would help (these 3 minerals are needed for muscles to be able to relax and contract normally instead of spasmodically). A smooth muscle relaxing med may help - such as Dicyclomine or Benadryl...

Could be Food Intolerances or Allergies, as mentioned above. An IgG blood test for foods may help identify foods that need to be avoided for a while. This type of allergy may or may not be permanent, and can be caused by a variety of issues (including Lyme/co's).

Could be Pancreatic Insufficiency - lack of digestive enzymes needed to properly process your diet. Digestive enzyme supplements may help with this. There is no blood test for this issue - so adding the supplements and seeing if it makes a difference is really the only way to know if this is an issue for you. And the benefit to taking enzymes is that it can help fight Lyme, biofilms, candida/yeast, and help with detoxing. I feel much better when I take enzymes (the two I take are Acid Soothe by Enzymedica and Polyzyme by Young Living, but there are many, many enzyme products to choose from).

Could be Liver Disease - many of the abx used for Lyme/coinfection treatment are toxic to the liver. If the liver has impaired detoxification mechanisms (influenced by genomic SNP's relating to the methylation or other detox pathways in the liver), then these medications are more likely to cause problems. Has your doctor checked your liver enzymes (ALT, AST, Alk. Phos.) recently?

Parasites - yes, this could cause these symptoms, and most tests are woefully inaccurate. A trial antiparasitic program may lead to a symptom flare followed by relief of symptoms. Use stuff like garlic, psyllium seed, grapefruit seed extract, pumpkin seeds, etc. to help repel and expel the parasites. Digestive enzymes can also help "digest" the bits of dead parasites and may reduce the symptom flare from die-off (no promises, though, LOL!).

Candida yeast overgrowth. Make sure you are taking probiotics, even if you are using an herbal or non-pharmaceutical antibiotic treatment protocol for your Lyme/co's. Also, caprylic acid (from coconut oil) is a great way to kill off excess yeast, as is zinc or zinc tannates (antifungal tannins), and biotin (keeps the yeast from forming treatment-resistant spores). Garlic, GSE, and many other things can also kill excess yeast/candida.

Take care,
 
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
 
feelbetter-

have you tested for H.Pylori?

You don't necessarily need to have an ulcer to have an infection cause those problems.

I was asymptomatic but tested positive via stool test or saliva test, can't remember which one because I did both tests (which revealed equivicol roundworm results, positive trichinella, h.pylori, toxoplasmosis.)

When i did the treatment I experienced all of your symptoms.

There is a blood test available that can be fairly accurate (according to my doc). I'll be retesting this way to save on money. the stool/saliva test wasn't covered by insurance.

Just throwing it out there, maybe it'll strike you as worth looking into, maybe not.

Feel better!
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
From what I've read, the blood test for h. pylori is only accurate the first time you're diagnosed. After that, it stays positive whether or not you actually have active infection. There is a breath test that's supposed to be fairly accurate. The gold standard (if I remember right) is testing biopsy or fluid taken from the stomach or upper small intestine during endoscopy.
 
Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :
 
Good to know Razzle
 


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