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Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
Ok....so I know that Lyme disease makes its own biofilms to protect itself from antibiotics

What about co-infections? Do they also produce their own biofilms? Bartonella and Babesia?

Any info that sheds light on this I'd appreciate!
 
Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
Biofilms are often a mixture of microbes, not a single species. Whether bartonella is involved, I don't know. Also don't know if this applies to intracellular infections, seems unlikely, but what do I know.
 
Posted by searching4truth (Member # 28481) on :
 
I was told that Bart is the master when it comes to producing Bio films.
 
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
 
what's the best stuff to take to get rid of the biofilms. I've been taking banderol and samento, but I just don't think it's working that well.

Thanks!!
 
Posted by sk8ter (Member # 8671) on :
 
Interfase by Klaire labs is the best
 
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
 
Is this an enzyme
 
Posted by Kramberry (Member # 34032) on :
 
Do people really need to take biofilm enzyme just to get better?
 
Posted by sickofsick (Member # 29258) on :
 
Lumbrokinase or nattikinase
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
I also heard bartonella is the worst one for protecting itself in biofilm.

Already mentioned, lumbrokinase or nattokinase. Also Boluki and the amino acid acetyl L Cysteine.

I was told by a LLMD with a naturopathic partner that Bartonella does not respond well to herbs. I took massive amounts to try to keep from sliding backwards when I was chemically sensitive. After five months of just herbs, I was back to zero.
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Artemisinin disturbs the biofilm. Bee venom cream excellent/several times daily with or without selected photons/energy testing.

Hamamelis. Vinegar & Honey in water. Heparin. Boluoke. Others better than Klairelabs/expensive. Natto inferior.

Energy testing necessary to determine which works best at certain times.

When working eliminating biofilm, need to pay attention to CCSVI. Increasing circulation when CCSVI condition can be too much (swelling, bp, etc.) Lots to think of.

And when working on biofilm, increased release of toxic metals that needs to be watched.

Take care.

(all learned from Dr. K.)
 
Posted by Toppers (Member # 20083) on :
 
I felt squat on nattokinase + bart drugs, but am feeling excellent on Bactrim DS + Doctor's best Lumbrokinase. It's expensive, hence why it's probably working better.
 
Posted by lymeboy (Member # 24769) on :
 
how many Lumbrokinase per day?
 
Posted by Dave6002 (Member # 9064) on :
 
quote:
I was told by a LLMD with a naturopathic partner that Bartonella does not respond well to herbs.
Because the right herbs for Bartonella have not been found.
 
Posted by sickofsick (Member # 29258) on :
 
Daughter (13) takes 4 Buluoke, 2 in the morning, two in the evening on empty stomach
 


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