I received an email today from an Iowa advocate that Dr. H's appointments are all cancelled. Originally there was hope that a PA or RN would be able to see patients. This is not the case.
I was asked to help spread the word.
It is terrible news for so many!
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
oh man another one bites the dust.
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
Ifound this online: Message from Mike from the Wisc Lyme Yahoo Board:
Re: Dr. H
It has come to my attention that Dr. H�s license has been suspended. The suspension may go into effect next week. The attorney assured us a deal was in place and there was no need for concern. Obviously this is not the case.
I�m speaking with several folks involved in this matter and trying to get a clear picture of what transpired. I should have a further update later this evening. It�s very suspicious to me that a deal is struck, folks are informed not to show up for the hearing and then a suspension is ordered.
The hearing room was packed with TV crews today to cover the case against Doctor�s writing absentee excuses for protesters in the state capitol this past March.
[ 11-19-2011, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]
Posted by Elaine G (Member # 20735) on :
This was not about treating Lyme disease. It was about a personal problem the doctor is fighting.
It is a loss to his patients and to the doctor.
We know what Lyme disease does to a patient so imagine what effect it has on the doctor. We never think of the doctor, it must take a heavy toll on them and affects their health.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Looks like everyone was tricked - action should be planned now about this situation -
Am wondering whether there's any other WI doctors who could treat his patients for now??
Posted by Elaine G (Member # 20735) on :
Robin, I don't know about being tricked. Some people didn't do their homework and research and jumped the gun, thinking it was about treating Lyme disease vs the system.
I sure hope his patients find a new doctor to treat them. Also, I hope the doctor heals and gets well. Treating chronically ill patients and being around the sick constantly cannot be an easy profession.
My heart goes out to all of them, the patients and the doctor.
Posted by Hambone (Member # 29535) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elaine G: This was not about treating Lyme disease. It was about a personal problem the doctor is fighting.
That's what I heard, too.
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
This is not what I have heard, and it was from activists in that state, so please be careful about what you post on a public board. Wait until the activists in that state tell us the real story. We do not want to add to the problems of the doctor and his patients by passing on guesses.
Posted by Elaine G (Member # 20735) on :
Poppy, someone didn't do their research. Look at the link posted for the licensing board and follow each link and read it.
quote: This is not what I have heard, and it was from activists in that state
It's the difference from heresay to actual truth.
If you want the real story, don't wait for someone else to tell you, look it up.
I believe in using one's own brain and intelligence and not waiting for someone else to tell me things that may or may not be true. Look at the discipline on file on the link that Steve 1906 posted.
This has got to be difficult for the doctor and patients. Please read the files in the link and lets drop it.
I just wanted to clarify that this is NOT about a medical board going after a doctor who is treating Lyme disease.
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
The latest file on the website is 3 years old, so I am not sure why you think they are relevant to the current situation.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Robin123:
Am wondering whether there's any other WI doctors who could treat his patients for now??
- Yes, there are.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Hm - so what is the truth then? And even if Dr H has some personal problems, he still is one of the state's main Lyme-treating docs and wouldn't that be enough of a reason to want to go after him?
Lymetoo, I hope they find out about these other docs. From what I've been reading, they think they have no doctor to treat them.
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Please note- The IDiots are getting smarter (they only have "up" to go, so no big whoopie there).
They (health departments, hospitals, other docs, insurers, etc) know that going after a doctor for "treating Lyme disease" is no longer a good idea due to the public uproar that has been caused in the past and everyone seeing the "pattern" that is so obvious.
Ever noticed how the idiots keep saying Dr. J's continuing cases are NOT about Lyme? They keep trying to push that lame theory, when it just isn't so, but they can get away with it so they do it that way.
If Dr. J's cases weren't about Lyme, why was Shapiro, and the other anti-Lyme idiots (Zemel, et al) brought in to testify against Dr. J? Why was the case about children who were treated for Lyme?
Give me a break!
The idiots "new" thing is to try to bust our doctors on something (anything) other than being Lyme related, to make the cases appear legit.
Quote from article below- "The psychology of the attackers is a combination of the psychology of bullies and that of the lynch mob. The attacks are typically led by one or a few bullies who have gained positions of power over others and who enjoy exercising and abusing that power to attack and harm the vulnerable."
Sound like OUR idiots?
Do note- the idiots are still showing up at our docs offices and combing through charts trying to find something wrong so they can bring charges against them.
What they are doing is called SHAM PEER REVIEW.
It is so common in the Lyme world that articles have been written about it, specifically related to Lyme and our docs.
[ 11-20-2011, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: Tincup ]
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
That said....
There have been times when individuals and groups have been so outraged by actions taken against their doctors that they have taken matters into their own hands and made plans to try to help their doctor.
Unfortunately, when that happens the doctor and/or the lawyers weren't consulted in advance.
Had they been, those trying to help would have known they did not want the public making a fuss, or doing anything that would disrupt their calculated approach to the problem.
Starting any actions without the docs and lawyers knowledge and approval can hurt the doctor and the case.
That is why we should NEVER jump the gun and NEVER do anything that could be counter to what is needed in any one particular case.
In no way am I saying that happened in this case. Not at all!!!!
But I have seen this happen in other medical board cases, so I want folks to know their good intentions can backfire and they must be extremely careful.
Ok, that's all folks!
Posted by imagine2 (Member # 3136) on :
Tincup, Do you think that change.org could help up??
What about the ACLU??
Just brainstormin. Posted by imagine2 (Member # 3136) on :
up
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
Well, sometimes the advice not to try to help a doctor can backfire. Take the case of Dr. J, where we were told not to become activists or go political. Five years later and a million dollars, there is no end to the persecution by the board.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- As I understand it, the loss of license is not about lyme or his treating lyme patients.
If so, and it's about other considerations, we should not make this about lyme as that could well backfire in many ways on the lyme community.
I suppose the local support groups in that area - and other lyme groups (Lyme Disease.org & the Lyme Disease Association) would be able to offer their thoughts. -
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
I have made that point several times now. We should take our lead from the locals who know the situation, and not continue to post information that may not be correct, or suggest courses of action based on inadequate information.
Posted by ktkdommer (Member # 29020) on :
In seeking there is a patient looking for a new doctor in WI. She was set to start a PICC with Dr. H. It has to be so scary and frustrating.
I thought we would see more of his patients there by now. I wonder how many are actually seeking?
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Poppy said... "Well, sometimes the advice not to try to help a doctor can backfire. Take the case of Dr. J, where we were told not to become activists or go political. Five years later and a million dollars, there is no end to the persecution by the board."
I absolutely agree 1,000%. I do!
I am not saying what the lawyers do or don't do is right, I am saying that we must follow their lead when they are hired onto a case.
I don't like it one bit, and I think making a HUGE stink should not have been stopped in Dr. J's case... or in Dr. J in NC either. The outcomes have been horrible.
But I can only do (and support) what those who deal with this, and who are in charge and are being paid to do, tell us we can do.
I would be horrified, as would we all, if I disobeyed and the case was lost because I "wanted" to do something different and it changed the outcome of the case to the negative. I can't take that burden on myself and no one else should either.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Robin123:
Lymetoo, I hope they find out about these other docs. From what I've been reading, they think they have no doctor to treat them.
- All they have to do is post in Seeking a Doctor.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
It appears he is especially sensitive about addictions.
Logical.
Steve, good catch.
Posted by Pantera73 (Member # 29752) on :
I got bit up there in the Northwoods and never even knew of a doctor.These loser idiots trying to get rid of llmds by WHATEVER reason is absolutely ridiculous! I guess until THEY got infected then it will be the same ol blablah IDSA. I Dont See Anything bs.We need a marketing strategy like Allstate with the Mayhem guy. " Hi Im Lyme Disease and these are my partners babs bart ehrlich and Myco and were going to rip your insides apart and make your life miserable." Then people would pay attention.
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