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Posted by gejr1 (Member # 30795) on :
Has anyone heard of this lab that my llmd wants me to use for my wife for lyme & co. I was tested last year by Ingenex thru a different dr. My dr. said he just doesn't use Igenex.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Are you sure you have a real LLMD??
Posted by gejr1 (Member # 30795) on :
yes his patients all have lyme so i'm pretty sure he's an llmd. He says Bioreference reports more bands than quest or lab resources but not all the bands that ingenex reports.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
That's why Igenex is better. They report ALL POSSIBLE bands.

I don't know anything about the Bioreference.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Being "pretty sure" he is a real LLMD is not assurance enough. Just because he has other lyme patients does not make him ILADS "educated" - and that is very important, even if he has his own take on some things.

Did he attend the recent ILADS conference? If not, has he ordered the DVD presentations?

Why in the world would he test with a lab that did not report as many bands as Igenex?

Will he also cut corners in other areas regarding diagnostics or treatment - or follow-up?

Not sure why you even need testing again if you were diagnosed last year. Lyme is a clinical diagnosis and the tests are just to help guide, when appropriate.

Have you also been evaluated for other tick-borne and other chronic stealth infections (i.e. HHV-6; Cpn; Mycoplasmas?)

Has he considered treating for parasites? Assessing Heavy Metals?

Hope he offers liver, adrenal and nerve support suggestions.

Sorry to sound picky, I just think I see a red flag in his manner with the testing - want to be sure you have a good LL doctor.

And, if you were going to have any test, I'd go with that new Borrelia Culture Test. Details:


Testing options - See #15


Specifics on the new test:

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
When he said he "just doesn't use Igenex" did you ask WHY NOT?

"Just doesn't" is not a satisfactory answer, IMO.

I don't mean to be picky, just want to be sure you have a real expert. Good luck.
Posted by gejr1 (Member # 30795) on :
thanks tutu & keeb, you're both 100% right.

I think my Doc D in nj is not a real LLMD, but trying to be one. I'll have to look into finding a real one soon. thanks again gejr1
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I never heard of a Dr D in NJ. You may want to consider another state... unless someone here has the name of a good LLMD there.
Posted by fflutterby (Member # 28081) on :
Dr. D is awesome, he treats aggressively. Will treat based on symptoms. He is giving me my life back.
Posted by Starphoenix (Member # 2402) on :
This doctor IS a REAL LLMD. He is my doctor as well. I know that many believe IgeneX is the "be all and end all", but believe it or not, results are not always trustworthy. I don't even trust ILADS anymore (I hear the giant gasps). The guy who created IgeneX also created ILADS. Big conflict of interest. Of course, those doctors will push the IgeneX tests....

I've seen ten Lyme doctors since 2002, and most were ILADS docs. This doc has been the best by far. I've seen Dr. G in NJ, Dr. E in NJ, a doctor at the former center in Phillipsburg, NJ, Dr. S in MD, Dr. C in NYS, the worshipped Dr. H in NYS (whose three years of orals wrecked my gut so badly, that I am suffering nine years later), Dr. F in NJ, a stupid ID doc in NYS (because there was no one else available at the time), Dr. Y in NJ, and, finally, this doctor, then and now. Excellent doctor, and he only uses test results as a general guide. He treats clinically. Oh, just as an aside, I've done rifing and Buhner herbs....I've had a lot of experience. [Smile]

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