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Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Hi all
Been having rough few days..started levaquin wed by thurs head was clear but body felt destroyed

Fast forward sat morn wake up, feel strange eat, keep feeling stranger...start to shake body temp 93 go to er

While waiting there totally sieze all muscles rigid..scary

Given atovan to stop tremors calm down..beat up

Get plenty of fluids fellin a bit better not 100%

get home no joke 30 mins later all symptoms back...scared

It feels like all my muscles just keep getting depleted of their minerals and same stuff begins super dry mouth throat tight


Admitted again now getting morem fluids but too scared to go back home bc will happen again

Anyone have any ideas / experiences with this please pass info along...struggling and scared

Also havent been given/taken abx for two days will bart/lyme take over again?? So scared.

Really sorry to post but just want some info/dont wanna die bc bart takes over secretly

Also havin trouble keeping down water/food when take water head/body go into frenzy
Posted by jackie81 (Member # 27031) on :
Iam so sorry u are going through such a rough time. i dont have advice but all I can say is keep pushing through. I will pray for you tonight
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
Lord I thought I was having a rough time...I'm so sorry that you are going through this..

I went numb from hips to toe's today.. short time. ,while half sleep/rest....caused a problem and was scarry.....I can only imagine how scarred you might be....

been knocked out for a while..

I can't tell where your from ,but does your LLMD , by any chance have a emergency/after hours number????????

Are you saying anything about illness where you are.....

I wish some of the other ,more informational members were on...but it's late.

Did you see the movie?? Under our Skin??Mandy etc. Not to scare you, just to say some go through this .

Are you on other meds and just added this ??

Do you have Babs also?/

I'm up for a while..slept every 1 1/2 for over 14 hours....

I started a abx and got my leg pain back comes and goes

OK ,,so like Jackie, she's so nice, I'll be praying for you.

What ever you do do NOT let them give you STEROIDS....Unless life or death....It's a huge no-no..I got twice as sick after some shots in 2010......

[ 02-06-2012, 03:15 AM: Message edited by: nonna05 ]
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
You need to take binders. Look at the list I provided here

Do coffee enemas if you can. (I never did!)

Get yourself a bottle of charcoal capsules.

Chitosan is another binder (made from crustacians - allergic?) I took a lot of that. Also from Swansons.

Good luck - it will get better!!!!

Take binders 20 minutes before meals and at bedtime ----FOUR TIMES A DAY ---
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
GIGI , was that for gaga??? Cause is in hospital...or did it mean for both of us??/

Think I've been a little slack with those lately
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Instead of some abx all im getting is ativans

I just hope it doesnt take over

I wish my body would respond and give a temp but everything is normal
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :

I think it was for both you and gagamooppop...

Everyone on this thread,

I experienced severe dehydration and it caused all my muscles to go into strong spasms/pain - so painful it woke me up. My DH took me to the ER and I was admitted because of how severely dehydrated I was (from herxing severely). Magnesium and other electrolytes helped enormously, but it took more than one IV of them to restore my body's electrolytes.

I will specifically mention the benifit of magnesium IV's in this situation. It may take a few of them to restore tissue magnesium levels, but without magnesium, it is impossible for a muscle to relax. The nerves involved also need the magnesium. Other electrolytes are also needed, but none are more important than magnesium.
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
Razzle , Thanks, I've been sweating again so that could be a part of the problem....

But what else could get down .

I can't just go to hospital and ask for IV....
So other suggestions?

Can I drink a bunch of pediolite?sp? or something like that???

is potassium through fluids/or script ok
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Thanks razzle this is exactly what is going on with me...i just hope when i leave this time my muscles wont spaz again

Seems like the only thing that helps is the iv fluids...i wish they could keep me on them...this is so frustrating

Also loving being deemed the lunatic as my bart comes back into play...this sucks
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
It sure does gaga......are you back home????

Did they tell you anything to help???

I know ,dumb question, but just in case...

So that means both??? Binders and electrolytes.

Are they both considered the not close or with ABX's??/
Posted by lyme in Putnam (Member # 11561) on :
did u call your doc? Call him. R u home?
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Called him been in touch with him this whole time but he thinks its maybe something underlying lyme

So far no ones found anything and i really think its dehydratipn but he doesnt

I just want this to stop

Defs feel better on the iv but when i go off it its like rhe body doesnt know how to repleish itself...

Im so worried not taking abx now for 3 hoping all these symptoms are one big herx and not the bacteria truing to kill me in my sleep
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Still in hosp...cant eat still...levels coming around but once off iv all crashes again...what the
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
OH poor thing ,Did LLMD say what it was about lyme or what to do????////
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
why aren't they giving you your antibiotics???
didn't they ask what meds you were on....usually they keep you going if you have reg.meds you need.

your in a room now ,right? what other test's are they doing??????//////
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
I had to get a port and have IV nutrition at home...I'd be pestering your doctor about this if it were me, and also asking the ER doctors how they expect you to stay hydrated if you can't keep anything down...

The ER doctors can also order a port (a PICC is probably the easiest to get) for you and put it in there in the hospital.
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
They want me to see another neuro which sure ill do but razzle thats exactly what i need and am asking my dad to pester my doc about can i get the docs here to let me to keep it in??

This has been very wondering if all my anxiety are flare ups

No administering abx bc they say the month of doxy i was on is more then enough

Is it ok to be taking this little break??

Thank you all for the support and info...this has been horrendous..i really had no clue what was happening to me or that herxes could do doc still thinks theres some underlying issue but i really feel its a moutain ofa herx

He said herxes cant mess up your blood levels like that..guess so.
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Just running standard neuro tests which im half failing/half passing

Standard blood work stuff...added a test for lyme but im sure that wont make a difference...did chest xrays too...

I feel so beat up
Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :
any pain in the gut?????/ abdomen CT from neck to pelvis......... you said you can't keep any food/water down?????

Infections don't always show up in blood.

As we all sinus one didn't show on x-ray either.........had 3 really nasty ones in there..
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
No pain just not throwing up but want nothing to do with water either...messes me up big time

Like one sip and my body doesnt know what to do with it

I feel like my muscles dont know how to retain nutrients
Posted by lyme in Putnam (Member # 11561) on :
With no antibiotics or no supps, hopefully giving your body a break will help. its scary and disheartening. You'll be ok.
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Uuyy i hope so...thanks putnam...we'll all get through this one day...
Posted by lyme in Putnam (Member # 11561) on :
how did you make out?
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Knock on wood stomach body feeling better but as true to form all neuro is back now...

Think babesia is making its way out...first time had red hands and veins turned dark color..

Again a little worried im not on antibiotics but i guess have to get body back to normal...bblluugghhh

Want this all to end just like everyone else...

Getting big neuro work ups even though its my stomach thats bugging me...Who knows whats going on...but the whole vitamin depletion suucckksss

Trying to eat slow but scared to put anything in my mouth bc dont want neuro to get worse

This is very complicated.
Posted by manybites (Member # 33750) on :
With bartonella activated this is very scary.I could not be off antibiotics for 1 day.I had full blown enchephalitis and ended up in Er.
While I kept babesia down with artemisin .Pulse it so it does not come out strongly.

Bartonella is the infection I chased in the begining.I could not do levaquin as I have had tendonitis.So I started on RIfampin Mino Azythromycin .Later I added HH that takes time but when bart is calmed down and at the end ( months) you start Levaquin b/c you have less infection in the system.

When you reduce bart babesia comes out definitly .That is why many have to go back on retreating as you can never finish one and let the other get stronger.
Try to use some herbs as artemisin , sida acuta or cryptolepsis.

My nausea stayed and came out strongly when babs exsploded .So hang in there as I used to get seisures.Not anymore.It just that is going to take time to reach those layers as deep as posible and for that it takes time.I am not sure since when you have had it .

I was neuro 30+++ and bartonella was the one that used to make me numb from head to toe .Just hang in there is going to get better.Please add some herbs for bartonella as HH capsules or knotweed .
I used to scream in pain and suacidial thoughts as I could not take it .
But than I sticked with the treatment and I reached the first Plateau after treating bartonella agresively.I felt my brain calm in my first remision.

To kill bart you need to take enzymes Interface that helps to break the biofilm .I would definitly include after it Knotweed or HH than I would take The antibiotics.This was is better as you make the antibiotics help and kill more.

Try to detox and you can do that with coffe enemas and binders or sauna.It is hard in the begining as you are killing bart deeper where the nervous system is in all the body from head to toe and that is why you have jerks.It will lessen in time while the infection is reduced.

Keep hanging in there as it gets better.Just be persistant and do not quit and have breaks ( long ) right now.
WHen you start to fight fight it hard as if you quit now it comes back with revenge.I was there and felt relapse on both infections .

[ 02-06-2012, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: manybites ]
Posted by aperture (Member # 34822) on :
I don't know what to say. I just want you to know that we are all supporting you. I hope the Dr's get some guidance to give you the treatment/tests/iv's or whatever it is that you need.
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Thanks All...i think the bart is coming back hardcore but no ones giving me antibiotics here...i feel like im going crazy and going to die but all vitals are good

This is evil.

Havent been on rif for a week now bc doc switched me to levaquin and i think that killed me.

Hopefully goong to stay hydrated when supposed to leave tmrw. But i really feel im going crazy...asked for ativan bc that helped last night but docs arent going for it til im hyperventilating.

Fingers crossed for body staying nutrient dense tomorrow.

Thanks again everyone for support and letting me talk on here...this is horrendous. Im still curious why my body cant hold its i have so many bacteria that they are eating up all the good that rapidly to cause my muscles to go into shock???
Posted by aperture (Member # 34822) on :
I don't know if this applies to you. I was having a hard time on 4 antibiotics and supplements, etc. I felt like I was going to collapse every day and just die.

My father-in-law, who is a Dr, said: the antibiotics kill off the bacteria leaving their by-products in the blood, causing the blood vessels to dilate, causing hypovolemia (sort of a form of shock).

That's why it's so hard to get hydrated and stay hydrated. You're body is using up the nutrients/hydration as quickly, if not quicker, than you're taking them in.

Hopefully, they will at least keep giving you IV fluids. I know I guzzled the gatorade when I felt like that.

Hang in there!
Posted by gagamooppop (Member # 34314) on :
Thanks for the info aperture...that is defs what happened and no joke thats what i kept saying "that it felt like my body wasnt able to utilize what i was putting in"

Still on iv which helps but havent taken abx in a few days and am feeling the wrath...trying to stay calm but its bananas.

Trying to figure how im going to walk out of here tmrw without iv...feels so helpful!! But definitley miss being home...
Posted by aperture (Member # 34822) on :
When you get home keep guzzling the gatorade. At least that will replenish the lost electrolytes. Hope you start feeling better!

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