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Posted by luluhaslyme (Member # 13201) on :
 
Our 19 year old Lymie daughter has been having constant lower right abdominal pain since Saturday morning. We took her to the ER on Monday evening as everyone from her university health clinic to family care docs were worried about appendicitis. After several hours, blood tests and a CT Scan, she was sent home with Tylenol and told to return if pain worsened or if pain moved to lower right abdomen (even though she still had lower right abdominal pain... I won't go into details about my conversation with discharging ER doc) UGH! She had a follow up appointment the next day with her family care doc who then ordered an ultrasound of her pelvic and abdominal regions to rule out ovarian cysts/endometriosis vs. appendicitis. Those results came back today normal as well. She has now been referred to a GI specialist... Of course it was said, again, that maybe this is all in her head. It is NOT!

We live in CO and her Lyme Doc is in NJ... since we are unable to just see him I am wondering if any of you have experience and/or advice for us.

I always appreciate your insight and am grateful for your thoughts!

LuLu's mom [spinning smile]
 
Posted by manybites (Member # 33750) on :
 
I hope she does not have Fry Bug Fl1953 .i got severely sick with it in Usa.I went through the same thing.

My kids as well had pain the same way . Because I had lyme and coinfection is spread fast .I was screaming in pain from it.I also hope she did not get a parasite infections.

When my daughter had the same experience I put her in anti parasitic treatment.That stopped her pain for the moment but does not eradicate the infection.

I would highly do recommend a parasite cleansing at least ( colon cleansing as well) if you find no releif from the Dr in Er .
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
Stuck Ileal-Cecal valve will cause this kind of pain because it can mimic a bowel obstruction.

To treat: Lay on tummy on the floor (or a firm surface) with a tennis ball under her belly half way between the top of the hip bone and her belly button (on a diagonal line between these two) for 20 minutes 1-3x/day.

IC valve problems for me stopped when I had my gallbladder removed. It is a symptom of a very, very toxic GI tract. Colonics may be helpful.

I also agree it could be parasitic. Mine wasn't, but it is a possibility to be explored...
 
Posted by Hambone (Member # 29535) on :
 
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Originally posted by Razzle:

IC valve problems for me stopped when I had my gallbladder removed. It is a symptom of a very, very toxic GI tract.

Razzle, I've been reading about stuck IC valves the past few days. How does the gallbladder affect the IC valve?

Does a bad gallbladder make the GI tract toxic? Did your GI issues get better when you had your gallbladder removed?
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
I have no idea how the gallbladder and IC valve are related, I just noticed that getting rid of the inflammed, stone-filled gallbladder was what ended my hiatal hernia and IC valve issues.

But I was told by the person who figured out my IC valve issues that it was caused by toxic bowel (I'd had severe chronic constipation for years prior).

Not all my gut issues improved, but I could eat fats again, and I didn't have constant nausea after the gallbladder surgery. Also, my stool color & consistancy improved a lot, and I wasn't nearly as constipated.
 
Posted by opus2828 (Member # 15407) on :
 
I had the same type of pain and it turned out to be pelvic floor muscle spasms. I worked with a physical therapist to treat this.
 
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
 
I had some liver problems while on mepron, and gallbladder issues while on rocephin. Sometimes it is hard to tell just where the pain is coming from.

Here' some stuff from the net. Maybe some answer in there?

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Doctor to Patient

What is abdominal pain?

Abdominal pain is pain that is felt in the abdomen. The abdomen is an anatomical area that is bounded by the lower margin of the ribs and diaphragm above, the pelvic bone (pubic ramus) below, and the flanks on each side. Although abdominal pain can arise from the tissues of the abdominal wall that surround the abdominal cavity (such as the skin and abdominal wall muscles), the term abdominal pain generally is used to describe pain originating from organs within the abdominal cavity. Organs of the abdomen include the stomach, small intestine, colon, liver, gallbladder, spleen, and pancreas.

Occasionally, pain may be felt in the abdomen even though it is arising from organs that are close to, but not within, the abdominal cavity. For example, conditions of the lower lungs, the kidneys, and the uterus or ovaries can cause abdominal pain. On the other hand, it also is possible for pain from organs within the abdomen to be felt outside of the abdomen. For example, the pain of pancreatic inflammation may be felt in the back. These latter types of pain are called "referred" pain because the pain does not originate in the location that it is felt. Rather, the cause of the pain is located away from where it is felt.

Picture of the organs and glands in the abdomen

What causes abdominal pain?

Abdominal pain is caused by inflammation (for example, appendicitis, diverticulitis, colitis ), by stretching or distention of an organ (for example, obstruction of the intestine, blockage of a bile duct by gallstones, swelling of the liver with hepatitis), or by loss of the supply of blood to an organ (for example, ischemic colitis).

To complicate matters, however, abdominal pain also can occur without inflammation, distention or loss of blood supply. An important example of this latter type of pain is the irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). It is not clear what causes the abdominal pain in IBS, but it is believed to be due either to abnormal contractions of the intestinal muscles (for example, spasm) or abnormally sensitive nerves within the intestines that give rise to painful sensations inappropriately (visceral hyper-sensitivity). These latter types of pain are often referred to as functional pain because no recognizable (visible) causes for the pain have been found - at least not yet.

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And something on liver pain:

http://www.liverpain.org/

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Does your daughter have bartonella? It is known to cause GI problems.
 
Posted by miklizro (Member # 33665) on :
 
My 15 year old just went through this twice in the last two months exactly as you described. xrays, ultrasounds and bloodwork revealed nothing so we have no answers either.
 


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