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Posted by thomasx (Member # 13431) on :
 
I stumbled across this tonight. I assume you've all seen it? Lyme disease bacteria take cover in lymph nodes. http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=9922
 
Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
 
up for others to see.
 
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
interesting-we need good science
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Actually, lymph, yeah. But spirochetes and the L-form and cyst form can hide ANYWHERE in the body. Anywhere.

Spirochetes generally like the quieter places, so burrow as deep as possible, even bone. They hate vibration so by going deeper they are less disturbed.

About the article. It's always good to hear what someone finds about lyme. And then it's good to compare notes with other researchers.

But it's sad that they really do not understand much about lyme:

"Usually, Lyme disease can be successfully treated with about four weeks of antibiotics"

And later, a paragraph about "reinfection" clearly indicates they don't understand chronic lyme.

Here, they talk about how it disables the immune systems and hides, but seem to not grasp how that can lead to the chronic state.

It's like the elephant being described by 100 different people, each with a blindfold, touching just one part of it.

Still, even if they don't understand some of the basics, my hope is that those who are at least studying even "just one part of the elephant" (so to speak) might find details of value.

Wish they would meet with ILADS before doing more "research."
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant#The_story

Blind men and an elephant

Excerpt:

. . . In various versions of the tale, a group of blind men (or men in the dark) touch an elephant to learn what it is like.

Each one feels a different part, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk.

They then compare notes and learn that they are in complete disagreement. . . .
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Posted by thomasx (Member # 13431) on :
 
The error in the blind men elephant deal is that it's presumed that they are indeed touching the same elephant. It presumes what it portends to prove. That means it's a logical fallacy (i.e. wrong).

[ 06-21-2012, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: thomasx ]
 


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