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Posted by Jennifer70 (Member # 30280) on :
 
I've been doing 30 min of yoga , and walking 30 min five days a week. Is one hour of exercise a day too much for my adrenals, or will it help?

I push myself to do it, it makes me feel like I have part of my life back..i used to love working out. My fatigue has been worse lately but that is only since I started back on mepron. So Im not sure if im stressing my adrenals or if It's the mepron. A few times a month I'll have about two days where I cant hardly get out of bed.

Also, one would think an hour a day of exercise would make me lose weight....nothing. I see a difference in my body but not on the scale at all. Im on armour thyroid and cortef and eating a pretty healthy diet, lots of veggies and lean meats. Do u think i should cut back on the exercise?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Hard to say. Everyone is different. If walking, I would do a stroll.

Sometimes Lyme itself will cause weight gain. If you weren't exercising, you'd probably be gaining.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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It depends on how you feel during, right afterward, hours later and even a day or two afterward.

It is nurturing your body, just neutral or taxing?

Six sessions of ten minutes can be better than one full hour, by the way. Or even just two minutes, once - or a few times.

Half of what you think you can do at that time. There's a reason for that "half of what you think you can do" - we often overestimate and then we have no steam to get back home.

Walking around smaller blocks helps rather than setting out for a long trek straight ahead (unless you can hop a bus home).

We also need a day off in between when doing weight training or endocrine taxing stuff, see Burrascano's safe exercise suggestions in the next posts.

But easy movement, strolling, can be done daily IF your body is good with that.

It's not speed or intensity but just moving. Strolling is often better than a walk if that's too taxing. If not, do what your body enjoys.

TOSS OUT THE SCALE

My advice: throw away the scale. Just clean it off and give to GoodWill or recycle somehow.

I got rid of my scale over 15 years ago. It was a fabulous move. I did not need it.

The scale will drive you to no good, IMO. We KNOW if we eat correctly, move as best we can as safety as we should, etc. We know all that.

Besides, you can just "check it" at appointments, friends' homes, etc. But if you find you obsess over a number or it clobbers your mood or the way you think about yourself - just don't weigh.

[However, if you have edema that might be out of control or you take prescriptions to pull water weight off the heart, etc. then you may need to weigh frequently but that is not about fat, okay?]

It can be very freeing to be without a scale - or tuck it away in a suitcase. Think of all the thought and feelings that are expended all day long after just that look at the number. I think it's not good for our well being. It's not about a number.

We know if our clothes fit differently - but so what if they do? We should not assume we know why so need to toss out judgements and all assumptions.

Weight gain with illness is very difficult and we need to be as especially tender with ourselves as careful as we are getting enough healthful nutrition. Sometimes, we actually need MORE food, not less. Food is good. [Processed products do not qualify as food, though.]

Food allergies can cause gain & inflammation. See the thread below about what all can help. Gluten is discussed. Diary, too, can puff us up.

You might think of weight gain as "being swollen" or "puffed" if that helps with self-understanding and patience. Just temporary.

RX causing weight gain? Maybe.

With mepron, with various Rx, there can be weight gain.

Lyme can cause weight gain. For many reasons.

Exercise when ill is not likely to prompt weight loss as it's not at all what we think but much more complex.

Just take the best care of yourself, nurture and nourish and move as best and safely possible - but also rest before your body commands it.

Weight is not a bad word. Much of it is from inflammation. Details in threads below offer more ways to understand how and why this is so common with lyme.

When infection(s) are treated, inflammation and weight often quickly comes back to normal. The Potbelly book in next links explains why.

But do not move to loose weight. When you find that the goal, try to shift the language and the goal to "moving for health." Or even "resting for health" if that is what your body needs - and moving your body in more gentle ways.

You might consider PILATES, finding an instructor who will not push but "meet you where you are with support" and who understands lyme.

Sorry for going on so long about this. My weight has been a struggle and I used to feel terrible about myself because if it. As with many situation, the more I learned, the better I was able to manage it - and the way I think and feel about myself.

Oh, while it's good to keep up with the news of the day, be very careful with all the articles in the media about obesity. It can really clobber us.

Most of us here are extremely careful and make good choices. If that is an area that needs attention, though, there are also plenty of avenues there.

Take care.
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[ 08-16-2012, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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To help with understanding, just to know this not to pour over all the abstracts:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Obesity%2C%20infection

PubMed Search of medical literature:

Obesity, infection- 3,759 abstracts

Obesity, bacteria � 1440 abstracts

Obesity, virus - 972

Obesity, fungal � 967

Obesity, parasites � 48

Obesity, protozoa � 30

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Obesity%2C%20adrenal

PubMed Search:

Obesity, adrenal - 3257

infection, adrenal - 8003

Infection, HPA Axis - 167 abstracts

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/obesity-infectious_n_1252853.html

Obesity Study In Mice Suggests Condition May Be Infectious

02/03/2012
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[ 08-16-2012, 05:43 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/112235?#000012

Topic: Borrelia Weight Gain? And What Helps.

Burrascano's PT & exercise guidelines are in the Cardiac thread here.

The Potbelly Book is also here, it's all about lyme and weight gain.

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A stressed liver can cause weight gain. Infection can cause a fatty liver. Some Rx can stress the liver, too, but infection must be aggressively addressed.

However, aggressive exercise can HURT the liver and flood our body with more toxins. That detail is in the Cardiac Thread in the link above.

Here's what helps:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER SUPPORT LINKS

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Poor sleep is classic with lyme & co. and poor sleep can cause weight gain for various reasons.

Infection can clobber the endocrine / adrenal system. That often leads to weigh gain. Again, help is on the way:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT
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[ 08-16-2012, 05:45 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Jennifer70 (Member # 30280) on :
 
wow thanks for all the great articles and info. Keebler I've gained 80 lbs total. I dont even look like myself anymore, I would have thought that just by adding the exercise the weight would melt off but it's not....i understand the illness is causing it, but it's doesnt make it easier to accept it.

A lyme doc gave a seminar and said mepron causes wt loss but your the second person who's told me you can gain on it. [Frown] I was hoping it would help me in that aspect. Im disappointed to hear that. I know your right about not focusing on weight, it's hard being a female especially.

I enjoy moving again, Im pushing through the pain but it's been good for me mentally to move and get in touch with my body again, ive been so disconnected. I'll read through all your links...maybe I should ease up a bit and alternate days to see if the exhaustion gets better.

I have a pilates tape..it's too hard for me right now, I will keep trying it though. cant afford a gym.
 


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