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Posted by YinYang (Member # 36358) on :
 
Started taking it (with a meal and a glass of water) separate from ABX because I *think* there are binders in it. It's been difficult to find the time to eat often enough (have to take ABX with meals, too). I can separate out my meals a bit more, but do I have to?
 
Posted by joalo (Member # 12752) on :
 
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Posted by debilyn (Member # 35753) on :
 
I took Parastroy with my abx. I figured killers with killers, but I have no idea if it is the right way to go.

It is so hard to figure out how to get in all these meds, herbs and supplements.

Hopefully, the more experienced will chime in.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I would take them seperately about an hour apart. Parastroy should be taken with food. Staying on antiparasitics until symptom free is important.

You can increase parastroy to 3 each para rid and para sweep after the 3rd week. When I hit a plateau, I added Hanna kroeger Wormwood along with the Parastroy and extra cloves and HCL with pepsin.

Also digestive plant enzymes such as Super Digestaway by Soloray is an added antiparasitic. Drink plenty of water when taking any supplements as well as abx.

Gael
 
Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
 
How do we know if we're symptom free, Gael since there's an overlap of symptoms?

Or,is it that while you're treating lyme and taking parastroy at the same time, you keep taking until all symptoms--period--are gone?
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Parastroy alone is not enough to eradicate a bad parasitic infestation. It can take several yrs to get rid of all the adults,eggs and larva. Dr. K. treats some of his patients for a year with pharma antiparasitics.

I gradually combined parastroy with Hanna Kroeger Wormwood Combo, digestive enzymes, extra cloves and HCL. Also alternated coconut oil with kefir and added Aloe Vera juice/gel.

Maintenance is important because if one egg is left over, the cycle can start all over again. Google parasite symptoms. I suggest staying on antiparasitics until symptom free and then maintenance as Hulda Clark suggests FOREVER!

I also do/did the salt/c protocol which is very effective against parasites, bb and other co-infections. Check out the lymestrategies website for more info on salt/c.

Gael
 
Posted by YinYang (Member # 36358) on :
 
Thanks for the input. My DH is taking it but not noticing much of a change in symptoms. Does this mean that parasites may not be an issue for him? How soon would it be apparent that it may be an issue from when you start treating? Thanks for any info!
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
It does not mean parasites are not an issue.How much is he taking and for how long? If you don't notice any change, increase the dose to 3 each 2 x a day or add another herb such as Humaworm or Hanna Kroeger Wormwood Combo to the Parastroy. Antiparasitics hit other infections as well.

Also consider adding salt/c starting at lower doses and ramping up slowly.

Gael
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
I usually feel ABX kick in 1-2hrs after taking them. I would definitely wait a min of 1 hr & I try to wait 1 1/2-2 hrs at best.

I am taking Salt C and feel more twitches and vibrations. I am up to 20G+ consistently. When I add the Kroeger Wormwood back in, even more disturbances, twitches, tremors and movement. In another week it's time for either Parastroy or Humaworm, heck maybe even both.

Gael, surely biofilm must have been an issue for you. Do you think the HCL acted as a biofilm buster too, or is Salt C known for that?
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
All I can tell you Lymedin, is that back in 06 when I had the mass exodus of parasites into the toilet, a lot of the parasites were encased in a biofilm.

I believe that because of all the bitter antiparasitic herbs, digestive plant enzymes, HCL and salt/c it created an atmosphere of non moisture where the biofilm was also effected. Enzymes are also important in eradicating mycoplasma infections.

Hope this answers your queation.

Gael
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
P. S.

Don't forget the extra cloves for killing the eggs and larva. Hanna Kroeger makes them and are very inexpensive. They are also a very good antibacterial.

Gael
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
Thanks Gael.

I finally ordered the cloves and they arrived yesterday. I may start them today.

Did you herx on cloves, or was it hard to tell?
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I herxed from all of the herbs and salt/c. Hard to differentiate what's doing what. Just knowing that the cloves kills the eggs and larva was empowering for me. The message that was always coming through my subconscious was "just stay focused and go after the parasites" Research ALL you can about the parasites and their life cycle.

Reading the info on the lymephotos site over and over again was empowering for me. I gleaned new info everytime I read it.

Gael
 
Posted by bigstan (Member # 11699) on :
 
To each his own but wanted to let people know that Kroeger Herb Wormwood contains an ingredient that is called Male Fern. Male fern is a very poisonous plant. Taking it by mouth can cause death.

Was going to buy the product I passed.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-720-MALE%20FERN.aspx?activeIngredientId=720&activeIngredientName=MALE%20FERN
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Thanks for the info bigstan. Hopefully the warning of the plant is for high doses. I just e-mailed Hanna kroeger to see how much is in the formula and if need be i will call them.

I have not had any bad reactions from taking it, but it's always good to be on the safe side.

One reason I didn't take Sporonax yrs ago was that one of the adverse reactions was cardiac arrest. Many pharma drugs can have dire side effects also, but we have to weigh the benefits against the toxicity.

Many cancer drugs are highly toxic, but necessary to kill the cancer. It's a dilemma for sure. Will post the results for the herb when I hear back.

Thanks for the info.

Gael
 
Posted by bigstan (Member # 11699) on :
 
Yes when you click on side effects on the link I provided it seems like it can be very scary stuff!
 


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