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Posted by payne (Member # 26248) on :
 
why are we not being treated to kill of the parasite(spirokites) that is passing on the
bacteria ??
Seems like a parasite doctor would be an easy ticket ? just raging, be stronger then you every thought possible... ever,
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
Because in the US, the medical community believes a: that their doctors are top notch (not), b: that their medicine is superior to any other country in the world (not), c: that first world countries such as ours simply don't have the parasite issues that 3 world countries have (not), and d: they are required by law to follow the antiquated guidelines which hold them back from treating us.

We need legislation that allows every single doctor to treat their patients how the doctor feels best, especially if docs felt that it would positively benefit patients, regardless of medical guidelines.
 
Posted by payne (Member # 26248) on :
 
did they get that done in conneticut...
yeah, i can't spell (:
doctors protected to treat ?
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
They did for lyme because tons of patients contacted their legislators (key), but I'm not sure about parasites. Hopefully someone from CT will respond here. Maybe we should all contact our legislators over parasites.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Parasite isuues are not the same issues as trying to obtain long term antibiotics for chronic Lyme. You don't need legislation to treat parasites.

I am however amiss, as to why Parasites are being overlooked by most LLMDs ESPECIALLY since Burgdorfer and Dr. Eva Sapi have found a significant amount of Filarial worms in over 40% of the ticks dissected.

This is mindboggling to me that it is being ignored even by big players at Columbia. Not a word about it.

Even if one does not have this infection, worms/parasites can play a huge part in keeping this disease in it's chronic state.

Gael
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
I started reading God Medicine by PJ Langhoff. I just got into about the first 100 pages. It's a huge, Manhattan telephone book size book.

I think we are dealing with pathogens that may have been engineered to some degree or that have mutated. This may be one reason why things are so tightly controlled. We may be dealing with fungal, bacterial, viral, parasite or some combination of all of the above.

I guess no one wants to admit that things were tested on the public or may have escaped from labs - military or civillian. It's a much bigger picture than "Plum Island"... & it's not a conspiracy theory. Lots of stuff was released into the environment & alot of it has been documented. I'm sure alot wasn't documented, too.
 
Posted by jlf2012 (Member # 36002) on :
 
sparkle, so you're saying testing was done on the public and this released these infections to all of us? My son had read something about that but I hadn't heard about it.
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
Dr. Oz says a lot of Americans have parasites. He had a show about parasites and natural treatments.

As we know a crazy scientist at one of the labs, sent letters with anthrax out to people across the county, why shouldn't we suspect there may have been more crazy/mad scientist releasing pathogens in communities?

I was bitten by a wood tick about 5 miles from Rocky Mountain level Four Lab. How could a common wood tick carry 5 deadly infections (that I know of)? These level 4 labs contain the most deadly pathogens known to mankind. As Rocky mountain lab discovered the spirochete causing lyme disease, why wouldn't they still have it and who is to say it was not released on accident or on purpose?

We will probably never know.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
This book is really something -

BOOK 4 God Science
The Secret World of Rampant Genetics, Hidden Illness, and Biotech Profiteering
PJ Langhoff

http://www.allegorypress.com/books.html

Fourth in the series. A riveting and explosive expose on the history of Lyme disease and other diseases of the modern day, an intimate look at the history of biological warfare (biowarfare); GM foods, vaccines, epidemic illnesses; and an examination into the conspiracy theories surrounding Lyme disease and other illnesses.

Truly a memorable book that will leave everyone on the edge of their seats. You won't believe the information packed into this sizeable book....The origins of Lyme disease and the persons, places and industries that may be part of a paradigm of denial for a global epidemic.

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It's very well written & easy to read for something so "dry". Everything is referenced. I'm on page 96 of 826. It's a huge book. According to the book - there were so many ways that the public has been exposed to weird pathogens. It's complex but it makes alot of sense.

When the biowarfare was outlawed - it just went into private industry to be used against insects in agriculture... I'm sure alot of it went into black budget projects but we'll never know. PJ Langhoff just states things that were actually documented. No wild speculations or acusations.

It's enough to know someing smells fishy in Denmark - if you know what I mean. No wonder we are all so ill. Really interesting book!
 
Posted by paulieinct (Member # 17514) on :
 
Parasites have been living inside humans since time immemorial. In the same way that bacteria have been living inside humans. It turns out that there is a symbiotic relationship between certain gut bacteria and humans - each depends upon the other to survive. The same may also hold true for parasites.

We don't necessarily know that ALL parasites are bad for humans. As we have evolved for millenia with these parasites, it may be that some are symbiotic with humans.

Can you imagine how many parasites were inside the body of the average caveman? Eating raw meat and bugs, unwashed leaves, grains and tubers - they must have been chock full of parasites.

Yet homosapiens not only survived, our species thrived and took over the planet. We evolved with a multitude of organisms inhabiting our bodies in a mostly symbiotic relationship.

Of course not all parasites are benign or beneficial, in the same way that not all bacteria are good for us.

I believe we have just only begun to look at the micro-flora of the human body. I do not believe that every "worm" inside us is a threat to be eradicated. We have to find out which are the bad guys.
 
Posted by GiGi (Member # 259) on :
 
Agreed. There are some parasites necessary for life. But definitely not what we are facing today. Caveman did not have to deal with 200,000 chemicals and dug-up toxic metals.

Parasites in us have taken on the task of keeping us alive by holding the mercuries and leads, which would otherwise kill us. We have not quite evolved to the point where our body can handle these on our own. But the parasites also poo and pee and die giving us an added load of toxins to handle, and sadly, most of us are no longer able to do that. Parasites are survivors and take the best we can bring in!

We need to get rid of the unacceptable parasites, which is still fairly easy to do; get rid of the toxic metals they release during die-off, and the rest of the microorganisms will be a lot easier to handle.

As Dr. K. has said for the last many years, "get rid of the parasites, and the rest (the small fry) will be a lot easier to deal with.
Fungi/our "protectors" will stop multiplying when the metals are gone.

Not only are we dealing with thousands of chemicals, we are also dealing with the all destructive EMF and Radiation exposure. You can watch and see the mold grow under these conditions. Viruses multiply like rabbits with EMF exposure. We have the science. The majority of Lyme afflicted have the lungworm parasite. And some of the liver flukes I am sure should not set up housekeeping in our liver.

I posted about the Babuschka principle a couple of years ago - the small hiding in the larger dolls. http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/101357#000000

Take care.
 
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
paulieinct,

I don't think these parasites that came out of me and others after using antiparasitics and salt/c have any beneficial purpose. www.lymephotos.com

A large number of ticks are carrying these horrific infections and are not being addressed as mentioned above.

GiGis points are well taken as well as sparkle and nefferduns assesment of possible parasites and other pathogens being produced in a lab.

Gael

[ 10-14-2012, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: glm1111 ]
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
According to PJ Langhoff's book - these pathogens have mutated due to the things "they" have been doing. So, it's not necessarily the same spirochete, worm, fungus, yeast, etc. that was around back in the early days.

I don't recall that people were this ill in general when I was a child. I've been trying to get well for a long time... most of my life. I know there are many others like me. I was ill for most of the prime of my life. Something is wrong with this picture.

Parasites are a definitely a part of the Lyme syndrome. I posted a YouTube video a week or so ago of Dr. Sapi talking about parasites & the relationship of spirochetes with their biofilm. It's quite interesting. She's a highly trained scientist...

I don't understand why it's such a mystery to most physicians.
 


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