My daughter woke up this morning with red swollen lips. She said they are itchy and very unncomfortable.
They are oozing a little although you can't see it she can just feel a little liquid coming thru her lips.
It started with cracked corners (which is normal for her in the winter) but this has never happened.
Could this be yeast as she has been having stomach pains, headaches and fatigue.
Thanks for any input.
Debg
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Does she have lyme?
What meds is she on? (in case it is one of those--a side effect, an allergy, etc.)
Is she allergic to anything?
Does she itch anywhere else besides the lips?
Does she have a white coating on her tongue, especially when first waking up? Does she have bloating?
Does she have mouth sores of any kind?
Any trouble breathing?
For now, I would give her Benadryl in case it is an allergic reaction. The Benadryl will give her some relief if it is allergic reaction. It may take 2 of them or more to get relief.
Anything new in her environment? clothing, sheets, detergents, dryer sheets, soap, hair dye, supplements, etc.
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
TF, She has been battling lyme and cos for 4 years. She is still on the same abx/supplements with no changes.
Nothing new in her environment. She is in her first year of college but nothing new. I had her check her mouth and tongue. Looks good she said.
No trouble breathing. No other itching. Not allergic to anything at all.
I believe she took benedryl as a precaution this morning.
I spoke to her at 5PM and she said they are still a little swollen, very very dry, and theres little teeny red little bumps on them.
Luckily, I had already had a phone consult scheduled with her LLMD for tomorrow.
Its hard when she is two hours away.
Thank you
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
Is she taking anything for anti-inflammation like fish oil? Fish oil also helps with dry skin.
Is she doing detox?
My other thought is if she's in extreme weather (too hot from a space heater being on or too cold from bad weather), it can effect the lips.
By the way, anti-histamines can dry you out, so don't expect the dryness to go away with the benadryl.
Did she try a new lip gloss or carmex-type product (even as a sample) and then wipe it off?
Good luck.
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
thanks Judie. She was on fish oil when she was living home. Its hard as she takes so many abx and supplements.
Right now for detox she can only drink water, teas, and takes some supplements for detox.
the weather in the northeast was bitter cold last week..perhaps its a delayed reaction idk.
thank you!
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Deb133,
If she has been treating for 4 yrs with no change, it's time to look into other options. Namely, treating parasites/worms which is now being recognized as the number 1 co-infection of Lyme.
Google parasite symptoms and check out the PARASITE WARRIOR SUPPORT THREAD. This is a serious infection and even the best LLMDs are not aware of it.
Gael
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
Hi Gael,
She is a lot better than she was 4 years ago. We actually have treated for parasites last year doing one of Dr. K's protocols. I would be happy to have her treated again though.
She takes 3 steps forward and slips one back. When she started college she had a major flareup no doubt due to stress etc.
We are making sure to take better care of her adrenals. Taking Vitamin D, probiotics, supplements to support her liver.
She is also taking Enhansa which alot of people have had good luck with.
So now its on to figure out why the stomach and head hurts and why her lips are messed up.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
"Cracked corners" is an indication of yeast. So is a headache, stomach pains and fatigue.
This one doesn't mention cracked corners but I've read it elsewhere:
YOUR MOUTH
Thrush (white coating on tongue), Swollen lower lip, Halitosis, Metallic taste in mouth, Bad breath, Canker sores, Bleeding gums, Cracked tongue.
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
Another thought I had was to check the ingredients of some of her personal products. Sometimes a company will change the ingredients and not tell the consumer, then the product causes a reaction.
Even check her antibiotics, maybe the pharmacy used a different manufacturer this time around.
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
I agree with Lymetoo. Cracked corners is from yeast.
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
ok thanks guys. Thanks Judie. My gut (pardon the pun) is telling me yeast as well.
When u put the pieces together. The headache, the stomach pains, fatigue, lips.
Even tho we do try so hard to stay on top of yeast you can't be on abx for this long off and on and NOT have a problem with yeast.
Anxious to see what her LLMD says tomorrow.
We go 3 steps forward and 1 step back uggggggg
thanks guys! Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Deb,
Parasites have to be treated long term and then maintenance. The ascaris (roundworm ) are known to lay 200,000 eggs a day.If just one egg is left, the cycle will start all over again.
Hulda Clark suggests maintenance FOREVER. Candida is on the symptom list for parasites. Hope you consider treating this.
Gael
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
Thank you Gael. Yes we must get back on the parasite treatment wagon as well. Just heard to do while she is in college.
Perhaps this will be on our list for May when she gets home.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I was hoping there might be an easier answer to fix this. I'm so sorry your daughter is suffering.
I hope she feels better soon.
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
Cracked corners of the mouth can also be from Vitamin B deficiency.
Stomach problems and headaches can also be from nutrient deficiency.
Stress lowers the ability to absorb nutrients, as do Lyme/coinfections, candida, parasites...
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
True, Razzle!
Posted by WendyK (Member # 18918) on :
I don't have any good advice, but just wanted to check in and say sorry to hear she's having trouble.
Itchy lips sound like an allergic reaction, but it sounds like yeast is a likely possibility too.
I hope she feels better soon!
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
Thanks guys for all the advice, words of encouragement and information!
I always know where to go for help and it is such a good feeling.
Posted by blinkie (Member # 14470) on :
Yes! This is yeast!! I get it starting with cracked corners. Years ago when I was taking an oral steroid for asthma I got I bad! No doctor could figure if out! I figured I ou myself and treated using OTC yeast cream!,,
Posted by Deb133 (Member # 18544) on :
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