Has anyone tried Biophoton therapy? My friend has Lyme and has not taken any abx.
She feels great and feels that Biophoton therapy and natural supplements has helped pretty much put her in remission.
You cannot be on abx when doing this. I'm afraid to go off them to try it. Was wondering if anyone else had any experience with it?
Posted by koo (Member # 30462) on :
Just curious where she had her photon treatment....in the US or another country?
Posted by canadianmama (Member # 36298) on :
My son has used photon therapy and supplements and is very much improved, almost completely better.
Try searching "photon" "bionic 880" or "pe1" here on this board to see stories from multiple people who have improved with this treatment.
It's not a magic cure tho' still requires great diet, no mould, parasite treatment, body support, exercise and more.
We couldn't be happier that we avoided abx and found photon therapy.
Good luck.
[ 04-17-2013, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: canadianmama ]
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Yes, I got better when I stopped taking abx and did the photon treatment.
Posted by Holly Beth (Member # 39193) on :
Koo- yes the tx is in the US. They get trained out of the country though.
My friend said she herxed after the tx but feels sooo much better now.She used to go a couple times a week, now she only goes once every 3 weeks or so.
She feels her Lyme is gone (or in remission) and now she is addressing her metallic toxicity.
She is doing really well with both.I'm just afraid to go off abx to do it.
Posted by FamilyFive (Member # 37206) on :
I'm very interested in more information about having this in the US, but can't find anywhere that does it.
Posted by kimmie (Member # 25547) on :
Best therapy we have done thus far!
Posted by kimmie (Member # 25547) on :
I would like to know where in the US does this. Not everyone can get to Germany easily.
Posted by Holly Beth (Member # 39193) on :
I know they do in WI. There should be more people in the US that does it.?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I agree with Kimmie-photons + nosodes is the most effective therapy I have done so far. And when it's guided by energetic testing-you can't find anything better than this.
Prior to that, I was on abx for 2.5 years-and NONE of co-infections were killed. When I started photons last year- energetic tests showed that ALL co-infections were active.
However, after 11 months of photons almost all co-infections are dormant (I�ve had at least a dozen of them). I�m working on 3 species of Mycoplasma right now that showed up after removing an emotional blockage.
Posted by Healing in Santa Cruz (Member # 7798) on :
More and more are learning My llmd hooked me up with my practitioner and soooo grateful he did Posted by Pam08 (Member # 19203) on :
It seems like people are doing well with the photon therapies. Does anyone know of a practitioner doing this in the DC, VA, MD area? I checked the link that Healing in Santa Cruz posted but there was no one in my area. Hoping that someone else knows of a practitioner in this area.
Posted by Tammy N. (Member # 26835) on :
Or in the NJ, PA, NY areas?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I couldnt find any in my area, so I'm doing it by myself. I have learned a lot from people on LN who did it before me.
Posted by canadianmama (Member # 36298) on :
We too are home treating, after starting with a practitioner.
It was so far for us to travel (6 hour round trip)that it was a better choice for us to buy a home unit.
Posted by sweet-sprig (Member # 40288) on :
After 6+ years of abx treatment that has helped symptoms 60%
we decided it was time to try biophoton therapy. We are
talking with Dr M in Germany. Does any one have any advice? Is
it worth the $ to go all the way to Germany? It sounds like there
has been success for some here in the US?
( I took a break from the lyme world for a year or so and Lymenet
was especially helpful in the past. So here I am back again! )
.
Posted by FamilyFive (Member # 37206) on :
I'm also in the Mid-Atlantic and can't find anywhere close. However, if this really worked I'd travel in order to do it.
I guess if you don't go to a center, you have to also have someone who does ART testing regularly, correct?
How long does one do the therapy? I know it depends on how sick you are, but is it something that can be done via traveling to a center or do you need it daily or weekly over the course of many months?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Based on my personal experience, in the beginning when you have multiple active infections , you would have to treat 2 times per week.
I would say ART is a must, because as active co-infections go dormant-other ones come to the surface. So without knowing which infection is surfaced it would be impossible to treat.
Treating Lyme is all about layers, when you do energetic tests you actually see it very clear.
I say it is very possible to learn how to do it by yourself. PE-1 device is about 1600$ + the cost of nosodes. Energetic tests also can be done at home using dowsing or tensor.
I think it�s a kind of a habit to put responsibility to get better on somebody else. But in case of Lyme � there is so little we know about this disease, everything is experimental , so it�s very hard to find good physician that is knowledgeable, caring, available and affordable.
Therefore I�m my own doctor. Nobody cares more about me that myself. I try to learn and search for information as much as I can. I think it is paying off. During this year that I treat by myself I have progressed the most!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Dr M? or Dr. W in Germany?
for the ones going to Germany or elsewhere, I think it would worth to invest in a machine to continue treatment at home later. Even the cheaper models may help, I feel...
I also got well with energetic tests and photons. ART helps a lot (dr. K's techinique). They can be combined.
This is a war against information. Who gets the most true, correct information, wins.
Knowing is power, specially in complicated chronic diseases, like lyme. Not knowing takes you not far, makes you lose time in circles, in false guesses.
With energy tests, you still guess, but nothing compared to shooting in total darkness.
The speed of healing can skyrocket in comparison with people that do not test.
A good testing method for diagnosing is also important, that is where ART enters. Only energy tests without a purpose, without a method, a way to put things in perspective, what is important, what is less important, is also not too helpful.
I still use the same method to treat colds and any infections. I treated my daughter a few weeks ago for dengue fever using homeopathic Ledum taken by photons! She recovered fast without any bad consequences.
Good luck to all trying this. It is fast to deal with borrelia, but all the rest, you will still have to deal in other ways, when you get back home.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
I found it worth going to Germany. He has different nosodes than we can buy here. He called them "live vials" but I'm not sure what that means. He said only doctors over there were allowed to have them and here only specialty labs, not even doctors here are allowed to have them.
But I think starting out with these stronger vials was beneficial. It seems to me that it takes a bit longer, but still can be done, without those vials.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Where are people getting nosodes? I'm finally ready to do this treatment and have a PE1. But ergopathics has been taken over and won't be shipping out until May, and Deseret's borrelia series seems to have 3 tbd in one (borrelia babesia and erlichia).
Anybody have a good source for some nosodes?
Posted by Holly Beth (Member # 39193) on :
I know it's not too close but I did find a center that practices Biophoton therapy in MA.The website is;
I think people use Deseret even though they are three in one. They are real nosodes. Some nosodes out there are just energetic nosodes.
Once you feel you are ready, you can switch to blood, and that will get other infections. The nosodes are just to beat down the Lyme a bit before you start going after more.
Posted by Pam08 (Member # 19203) on :
Gosh I wish more practitioners were doing this in the US. It looks like it is catching on but unfortunately that doesn't help me at the moment.
I am sure it is worth it to travel to have it done or to buy your own machine and learn to do it yourself. Unfortunately at the moment I can't afford to do either of those things which is why I was hoping to find a practitioner in my area.
If anyone ever hears of a practitioner in the DC, VA, MD area definitely let me know. I would greatly appreciate it.
Posted by sweet-sprig (Member # 40288) on :
Yes, it is Dr M (not Dr W). We were given his name by the Bionic880 company. Has any one had any experience with him? Seems Dr W is not available?
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Dr. W may not be available according to the bionic company because he no longer uses their product. I believe he has new machine that he uses. Have you tried calling Dr. W's office?
I sent you a pm with his number.
Hiker53
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Thanks goofy. I don't want to treat three in one. That may not be what my body wants to do at all. If we are doing ART we need to see what the body wants to treat first and in what potency so I'm going to have to do a little more research.
I may ask Deseret why they don't separate them out.
Posted by sweet-sprig (Member # 40288) on :
Thank you hiker53!!!
Posted by kimmie (Member # 25547) on :
Deseret does offer a plain borrelia nosode now.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
oxygenbabe,
I have not checked recently, but I did buy some bartonella nosodes from Deseret several years ago that were separate from the 3 in 1.
Hiker53
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Blood nosode didn't work for me, since pathogens move into tissues and don't stay in blood. I' ve used Desbio nosodes for D dilutions and ordered C dilutions from Hildegard pharmacy in Brussels Belgium. They ship internationally.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
kimmie, do you know where deseret's plain borrelia is? I'd love to have a plain borrelia, plain babesia, and a weaponized mycoplasma (but maybe regular would do, as similar enough).
I could start with borrelia though. I've looked and not found it and my doc has the combo too.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta what is Desbio? I'm going to look that up and Hildegard in Brussels unless you have a # or email you could PM me?
Thanks much!!
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Hiker53, yes I think they do have bartonella and mycoplasma. But I intuitively do not feel bartonella is a big deal for me.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Desbio is DeseretBiologics. I will pm you hildegard e- mail. They have all pathogens that you can only imagine in all potencies and cheap.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
oxygenbabe--here is a link for the borrelia nosodes.
Thank you hiker. And how are you doing these days?
Posted by kimmie (Member # 25547) on :
Oxygenbabe. The borrelia nosodes are on their website under series therapy. They are not a combination nosodes.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I got mine in a pharmacy in Germany. They all can order Staufen Pharma nosodes. But we can't order directly at Staufen. These are the nosodes used by dr. W.
I wouldn't use Ergopathics. I have some copies at home of other of their products, they were all 'erased' after some time. My borrelia nosodes from Staufen pharma are still active today, since 2009 when I first used them!!
Possibly Deseret Biologicals would be a good alternative as I heard their Bartonella nosodes were pretty good to many people.
FOr higher potencies, I know that Hildegard Pharmacy in Belgium does make them and ship to the US.
THey will even make the lower potencies too, but individually, as far as I know. So the costs will be a bith highter than buying the series of Stauphen or Desbio.
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Oxygen babe: start with individual borrelia nosodes ONLY. They will be enough for your body to handle. After you may add something else. That is what I would do.
----- As far as I know, dr. W is still treating people, not with the Bionic, but with another photon machine.
I never used the non-diluted nosodes and got well without these.
So did my daughter and some other people I know.
After treating borrelia, other issues are easier to handle. Somehow, borrelia is extremely immunosuppressive. Candida too, but not as much as borrelia, in my feeling.
Getting rid of borrelia is a great step ahead for anyone. Once it is dormant, other infections become more easy to treat, or go in remission on their own...
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Thanks Brussels. Is there a pharmacy in germany that will ship to me (or to a friend in france is a possibility)?
Kimmie, I haven't yet located the individual borrelia from deseret. I'll look again.
Posted by willbeatthis (Member # 31111) on :
I agree, it has been the best treatment I have done so far without a doubt. I will say that using proper dilutions has been key for me. Anuta has been a huge help.
I know there are many doctors trained in Germany with photons. I would find the best fit for you personally. All of them offer a little something different at least that was my experience. For example in Connie's book, http://www.amazon.com/Insights-Into-Lyme-Disease-Treatment/dp/0982513801#reader_0982513801, there is a Heilpraktiker that is very holistic and I think after getting back I would say, that has a lot of merit.
I do think this is a treatment that can be done in the states especially if you find a practitioner. Even if you do not, there are folks here to learn from. I feel I have been given my life back and I am ever grateful to all those that have gone before me and continue to help me.
Blessings ...
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Oxygen, would you like me to buy it for you? It costs about 20-30 euro, I think. I can check it out. Send me a PM.
Why don't you try first Desbio series, I'm sure it will cost you less in postal fees!
---------- Willbeatthis!
So glad to see you have your life back too!!!
It is a blessing, isn't it?
If all knew how easy it is to have borrelia under control using this treatment. At least, for us. Nothing worked as fast, as easy and so smooth.
And reaching the deepest parts of our bodies, bones, brain, joints, GI tract, everything.... Even your outside field gets treated!!!
Not an end to all disease, but an end to borrelia means so much.
Treating the rest is a piece of cake, for the ones who have fought this as bad as us... when our borrelia got dormant, we truly understood how much borrelia is immunosupressive. And why it is so hellish to treat infections while borrelia is active.
After it is dormant, you finally get time to treat the KPU, heavy metals, teeth, EMRs, allergies, clean your environment, get back to your old social network, get back to your hobbies, etc. That is when life is a blessing again!!
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
I am due to receive my machine in early May. For you research types, I have always wondered whether the light stimulation could do harm as well as good. I believe illness such as cancer are "cells gone wild". While I understand Rife technology as well and have and older machine I was always a little reluctant to use on my small children at the time. They are all grown up and still fighting this disease. Anybody that has done some research of the concept of light stimulation being safe as well as Rife being able to isolate to only the frequency of the pathogen would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Yes, there are people who overdid it. Dr. W was very specific that breaks were necessary. He had a three week twice a week treatment plan, then four weeks off.
It's not to be done every day. And the weeks off are as important as the treatment times in order to allow the body to catch up and take care of the things it was given the energy to take care of.
I don't think there will be any connection to this causing cancer .... I think it's more that it has the capability of initiating more work than your body can handle.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta & Brussels, Hildegaard got back to me by email and their prices seem quite reasonable. I think I will try a borrelia series from them and maybe babesia. I'll just start with those two since they were the leading infections in my big bad tickbite. I got a bullseye in 12 days, and it must have been a virulent strain as the rash was already disseminating later that day, when I started on antibiotics. I think it had babesia too because of my symptoms, severity, the prevalence of babesia in that area of Connecticut, and because I later tested positive (theoretically I could ahve picked up babesia some other time...but I"ll assume that was why I got so sick, a multiply infected tick).
They are offering me C and D potencies. I might as well get both? Is nobody using C potencies for photons? As soon as I hear back on advice I will order from them.
Thank you all. I'm going to need a brushup tutorial or do a lot of reading on old threads to remember the acupuncture points and so on.
JCarl, I have used photon machines, including the Xlight, for years, but I use them in limited amounts. The Xlight also uses nogier frequencies. It's really quite poweful and for all I know might be a good starter device on photon therapy for those with less money (it's $350). It's small and battery or ac/dc operated. In any case, sometimes it puts me to sleep. But I think as long as you don't overdo it, it is safe. NASA has studied red and infrared for healing mucosal tissue after radiation, for instance. I think Rife machines, with strong EMF, might be more concerning. But of course caution is always good.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
JCarlhelp - I think the only caution about using the infrared light is that it may cause problems if you have parasites. This was my experience. Some people felt it can cause uncontrolled release or redistribution of toxins, too.
I don't think anyone here has mentioned using the infrared light in doing an anti-parasite protocol. I don't think it's advised but others may share their knowledge or info on this.
In my case, I think I was mis-diagnosed with Lyme, etc. I think my true problems was with parasites. I had no clue that was an issue. I don't think using infrared light was helpful for that. I had a bad reaction to using the infrared light due to that.
I've been a bit standoffish about using it again. I had no idea it would take this long to get rid of parasites. It's been about 3 years that I have been treating them.
I have a LightWorks which is not as strong as the PE1. I think these treatments are of a very different caliber than medicine with herbs or drugs. I think they can be very effective but you have to be careful with it.
I don't think the light is harmful or carcinogenic per se but it can cause unpredictable healing reactions. Be sure to take breaks & use binders to absorb toxins. Healing is a process.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Oxygenbabe: C-dilutions are MUST if you want to eradicate the pathogen. Only doing D is not enough. I think that many people who went to Germany and continued with D-nosodes after didn�t get well because of that.
If you will do energetic tests you will see, if you stop treating at 200D, the pathogen load will be diminished , so it will stop testing for a while but then it will come back.
I always order 30D, 60D, 100D, 200D, 30C, 60C, 100C, 200C and MK dilutions and use them till the end. Usually after ingesting MK for a 2-3 times pathogen goes into dormancy.
Sparkle: based on my tests, using antiparasatic VER nosode (which is a combination of multiple worms and protozoa) from Deseret Biologic was killing parasites, but not eradicating completely. I had to add Parastroy , Mimosa and salt/C to help eradicate. Never my tests showed that using infra-red is beneficial for parasite growth. After 3 months of this anti-parasite protocol it stopped testing.
By the way while doing all those anti-parasitic treatments, my tests showed that salt/C kills Mycoplasma and Ivermectin is very bactericidal almost to all co-infections ( showed very high effect on Ehrlichia and Anaplasma).
That brought me to think that people who do better on anti-parasitic protocol might at the same time treat co-infections too.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, sounds like I could use some coaching from you. Do you skype? Do you feel up to a coaching session?
Are "D" the equivalent of "X" in USA? I'll google that and I will definitely order C and D. I shall call the pharmacy in the morning here, afternoon there.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Sure we can skype. It would have to be on the WE, since I work full time.
D=X C=K
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Anuta is right on dilutions. These are exactly the ones I treated. I did use stronger ones, before 30 D (or 30x), such as 5D, 6D, 10d, 12D, as they come in the nosode series of Staufen Pharma.
Oxygen: great you contacted Hildegard. Their products are very high quality. Just ask them to pack on alu foil, to prevent damaging with X rays...
JCarl: I used dr. K's KMT 24, with microcurrent. It did feel good, and helped me for a while. It is much milder than RIfe, like a TENS machine. I never anymore touched it later. It's in the box for about 5-6 years now. I only use the PE1.
The photonic machine has sunlight frequencies, in the infrared range. It is not UV, that can be carcinogenic.
I find it perfectly safe, if not overdone. I use it even in my eyes, flashed directly to them, sometimes. I've been using it since 2009, when I bought it.
My daughter too. I use it for everything, like bruises, muscle pains, tendinitis, burns, any pain that may come, stomach disorders, diarrhea, colds, whatever comes in my mind. My friend used to take cattahr from lungs and from sinuses, she said it worked pretty well after she tried so many products, unsuccefully.
I use it also for some accupuncture points, to stimulate them.
THe PE1 has some EMR emissions, radio frequencies, according to the maker. So for the very electrosensitive people, it may feel strong.
WHen I was sick with lyme, I couldn't bear direct frequencies from the PE1 for more than a couple of minutes.
Now that lyme is long gone, I can bear anything, but I rarely use direct mode as I do not treat borrelia anymore. Even if I needed it, direct mode is only used to 'take' the nosode information.
I basically use pulsed mode, that is MUUUCH milder than direct mode.
I have a Rife machine at home, and I can count in my fingers how many times I used it. I hate the electric feeling going through my body. I never used it in my daughter either. I am afraid of Rife frequencies too.
But I use photons to anyone. I think there is the danger of overdoing (too much killing), of some pathogens that may love photons too, of heavy metals that are put on the move (I use the machine for heavy metal detox on joints, under teeth, etc)....
And doing too much before sleeping may excite some glands, I believe, and it is hard to fall asleep after. Probably it is also the EMR from radio frequencies that excite the hypophyse?
In my case, I do use these infrared in my own kid without thinking further. Even to treat a cold, I may use it.
I am someone that is afraid of taking aspirins. I can't even remember the last time I took an aspirin. Husband neither.
I'm afraid of aspirins, but not of my photon machine!!
My daughter rarely take any chemicals either. Maybe once a year, I would give her an antifever medicine to let her sleep, but that's it, that is what I give her in a whole year. Otherwise, I only treat her with herbs, supplements, homeopathy, light and tapping.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Thanks Brussels & Anuta. I'm so used to the ability to click "like" on posts on other boards, I wanted to do so here. :-)
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Ordered my nosodes from Hildegaard-- Brussels ya gonna be hearin' from me soon! :-)
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks aunta. I'll look into it! I tend to like holistic treatments better than drugs but I decided to try fenbendazole. I read it's good in combination with ivermectin. It creates a synergistic effect. Alot of people with Morgellons do quite well with it.
I'd have to check it the Desbio remedy has lungworm. The parasites are quite different from each other. I don't think one remedy could treat all parasites. I suspect that weaponized pathogens may have parasite or fungal components. That may be why anti-parasite treatments are effective for co-infections.
People with Morgellons often test positive for Lyme.
Posted by willbeatthis (Member # 31111) on :
Brussels, thank you... You, Six, and Anuta have been so much help to me... thank you from the bottom of my heart! Posted by Rivendell (Member # 19922) on :
Okay, so this sounds very expensive and not something a person living on a tiny disability check could afford. Correct?
I wish we could level the playing field.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
The PE1 is about $1700. Sounds expensive, yet when you consider what LLMD's cost, it's not.
I spent $5000 on the German treatment, not including the Bionic. I have not been back to the LLMD since. I had been spending $20k+ on lyme treatment, so I do not consider this to be an expensive therapy.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Is 20 ml a large vial for a nosode? That was what Hildegaard initially offered but it seems to me I don't need anything that large. This is liquid, right?
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
I bought some small glass clear containers and used a syringe to draw up a small amount of liquid to make a nosode. The nosodes I bought from England came in larger dark bottles and so did the ones from Deseret. A 20 ml vial is pretty large. Can the vials be opened?
Hiker53
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Hildegard nosodes come in sugar pellets, usually 80 pellets per potency in a plastic tube. Then for treatment you would have to dilute a pellet in water and put it in a clear vial.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Hildegard can make me liquid nosodes, if I ask, anuta. Is putting one pellet in water the same potency? Theoretically if I accidentally succuse it just by storing or moving it, it would change potency? I don't know. I guess it would be the same because I have extended my homeopathic remedies that way, mainly because if I was treating daily, I was told to slightly vary my potency. IE if I put a few pellets in a dropper bottle, I'd shake it 4-7 times before using each time, as the body would accept it more that way.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Where is Brussels... So either I get little glass drams, and put sugar pellets with water in them, or put some of my liquid nosode in them. Any preference? I'm a little impatient and frustrated as I've been back and forth with Hildegaard all week on this. Not their fault at all--I suddenly didn't know what to order.
Posted by lymie_in_md (Member # 14197) on :
Thought I'd post a new twist as to why photon therapy is useful more at the DNA level. Read the following carefully and hopefully it will provide new insights into biophoton therapy and how it helps.
It appears biophotons are the trigger for live formation. It has been used to transform a toad embryo to become a salamander embryo. Do some research on the scientist listed in Lynn's write-up.
If you have say hair you've saved from when you were young. That DNA with either coherent or non-coherent light might be able to repattern the bodies DNA to be more youthful. You have to question how much we are chemical versus light beings and it could explain the success of all of us who've stepped into the light.
The article seems to confirm the idea that biophotons seem to animate life itself. It would be interesting to continue the discussion with that premise.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Oxygenbabe: Diluting the pellet and succusing will change the potency, but not much. Let�s say instead of 30D you will have 31D after dilution. I really don�t think it is a big deal. I succus the vials 30 times every time before I treat to �activate� them if I can use this word.
It is your personal preference to order pellets or liquids. I prefer pellets. It is more stable over time and more durable against EMR during transportation (VERY IMPORTANT!) and storage.
Bob : Great article! Infrared is used everywhere in Russia (medical use in doctor�s offices and self-care, cosmetology- very wide range). I do have my baby hair saved, should I make a nosode out of it ?
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Okay, anuta, I'll do it! I hope you will advise me...
As to why they work, it's all interesting and there is new research on photon signatures of cells in tissues near a cancer and how they change...but frankly, I'm more interested in practical matters of who used it, how they used it, and what improved.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, where do you get glass drams? Should I look on amazon?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Sure oxygenbabe, no problem. I order drams on line, someting like firstvilas.com
Posted by lymie_in_md (Member # 14197) on :
O2 -- I've used it in many ways:
> lyme nosode and blood nosode with the LED. I'm hoping it encourages the immune system > poison ivy rash I'll use it over the rash and I believe it improves it more quickly > swollen lymph it definitely improves circulation > oxygenating cell tissue > I believe it increases hormone production when used on the crown chakra or over the thymus, thyroid, pituatary, pineal gland, adrenals. > aches and pains -- again improved circulation
With these aspect of what it can do, it is up to the person to determine how to apply and why. A simple test is to use every day over a painful area and gauge for yourself what it does.
What needs to be explored is the use of it on healthy DNA applied to unhealthy DNA. It might have a practical application here. It might just bring back some youthfulness -- I'm sure this would raise the giggle factor.
Using LEDs successfully, I believe is the state of mind during use which is extremely important. It probably won't work by itself, the operator has to apply it as a lever accentuating mind over matter.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
I'm just going to use it on the tickborne infections. I have ordered my nosodes from Hildegaard, starting with borrelia and babesia.
Does anyone think strain variation matters? IE babesia microti versus babesia duncani etc.
I have used my xlight for pain and it worked really well. It's a much smaller device than the PE1. I think it's the nogier frequencies there that matter.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I have treated both Babesia microti and Babesia duncani with nosodes. At first I was testing positive for both at the same time, but after 2 months Babesia microti stopped testing. However it took another 2 months for Babesia duncani to stop testing.
Right now I see the same thing with Mycoplasmas. At first I was positive for 5 strains, now only one is still testing.
So i would say it is important for some pathogens , but not for all. You would have to test it energetically.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
anuta--i should tell them babesia microti, then. did you get all the strains from hildegaard? thank you.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Yes, all these nosodes were from Hildegard
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Thanks. When I get time I"m going to do a search on your name, anuta, so I can compile your posts and see what you've done, then I may have some questions but you won't have to repeat yourself :-)
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Strain variation: I do not think it matters much as homeopathy is treating using SIMILARS, basically.
Sorry I've been out for a while!
Storage: much better are the sugar pellets. THey last a century!
You can succuss the liquid vials again. I do that due to excess of EMRs in our environment. They do get somehow stronger, but that is not a great deal. Better stronger than weaker, or without information.
Another way to get away with infections (OF ALL SORTS) is to use Penicylyn nosodes. Which strains, just look into Sanum literature, order the pellets in the SMALLEST dilution possible, then dilute them in water.
You get REALLY life saving remedies that are at your hand any time, for decades, for almost free!!!
-------- RIVENDEL: If you find the PE1 expensive, buy another. Some people swore by the Sota Lightworks too, much cheaper, but much less potent (about 10% of the potency of the PE1).
Nosodes cost almost nothing, and consider that they may last your whole life if stored correctly, so it's peanuts. --- Hiker
Dark bottles do not work as well. THERE MUST BE light passing through the bottles, to be effective.
-------- The best treatment for teeth infections, specially root infections, is light, for me. I use Sanum nosodes on the solar plexus and do the same procedure. The pain goes out soooo fast, it is amazing.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Brussels
I agree that dark bottles do not work as well. I bought my solutions in dark bottles and then transferred small amounts to a clear bottle with a syringe.
I bought liquids--didn't even think about pellets-so I wanted them in dark bottles for storage, but not to use with photons.
Thanks.
Hiker53
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Brussels & Anuta, my potencies in D and C in borrelia and babesia are on their way, in pellets, to be wrapped in foil I hope (I asked, but...hope they do).
I also ordered 1 dram vials online, 25 of them.
I will ask for advice when I get them.
For those of you who do not have cash for Pe1 I have used Sota and Pe1 and xlight, and I recommend the latter. It is waaaaaaay more potent than Sota, because it contains nogier frequencies and various lights. It is really strong. I believe it is still for sale, go here
WHen I get up and running with these photons I will try a comparison session. I have used the xlight for pain and for sleep. I only use red and infrared but it also has blue and white.
Posted by NJFitnessGuy (Member # 30886) on :
I just started Biophoton therapy last week, and have been told by my Biontologist, who is trained under Johan Boswinkel (inventor of the Chiren & been working with Biophotons since 1982), that supplements may interfere with treatment, and to go off of all my supplements.
Did anyone notice more success while staying off supplements while getting treatment?
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Dr. W also had us get off everything but the necessary. I still took iron and thyroid as those were necessary. I also took sleep meds because I was too addicted to stop cold turkey. It took me six months to wean off those.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
It is hard to tell without energetic tests done. Depending on your body needs you might actually benefit more by adding some supplements.
Definitely detox part has to be addressed, I take mostly homeo detox remedies as well as organ support, however sometimes I test for Milk Thistle for liver detox. Not detoxing properly and killing pathogens with photons can make you even more sick.
I also sometimes take thyroid and adrenal support homeo and supplements when I test for it.
Adding Core supplement to address KPU was HUGE part of my recovery. When added Core, I stopped testing for most of the supplements that I was previously taking, as it have opened detox pathways.
Posted by NJFitnessGuy (Member # 30886) on :
Sixgoofy: Thanks for the response.
Anuta: Thanks for your input. Would you recommend that I get ART done before I decide to stop all my supplements or even go back for further Biophoton therapy?
For someone who is limited in funds, what would any of you suggest is the best route to take? Do I continue paying for Biophoton therapy, or do I buy my own unit, such as the PE1? How often should you go back for ART?
I appreciate all the knowledge provided here on this thread.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Dr. W had me get off everything but my seizure medication. He did add more magnesium, though.
Hiker53
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I would recommend to everybody on this site, despite of what kind of treatment you have chosen, abx, photons, herbal, etc� to do energetic tests (ART or dowsing, doesn�t matter). The priority to treat can change every week, even often sometimes. If you don�t know what to address how you would address it?
I see energetic tests as a key to success!!! I have started testing energetically and the photon treatment about a year ago and during this year I have progressed the most.
Especially if you are restricted in funds, this will cut-off all unnecessary spending, you will only do the things that your body needs at the moment. Ideally is to do it every day, I do test 2 or 3 times per day, but I do it myself. It is not hard to learn it.
I also prefer to have my own PE-1 device to be able to treat when I need and if you have multiple family members that are sick (my husband has Lyme too), it is a necessity.
Posted by Tammy N. (Member # 26835) on :
Anuta - I completely agree. What method of testing do you use? I've tried dousing with mixed results. And my tensor seems confused...haha.
I'm on a mission to learn some form of testing. Any suggestions would be great.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
If people want to learn how to energy test, try various ways, you can buy The Emotion Code on Amazon. It's useful. I find using the O-ring (thumb and forefinger, and try to pull them apart, or even standing and feel which way I lean, works, unless I am *anxious* about or emotionally involved in the answer.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, have you posted elsewhere on the forum about your results with KPU?
Posted by Tammy N. (Member # 26835) on :
I've heard GiGi talk about this for years....so it's been on my 'list' of things learn for a long time.
I also want to learn how to deal with blocked regulation, so you can be sure your testing results are accurate.
A friend is going to loan me his Dr. K ART tapes. It's probably way more involved than I even realize, so we'll see.....
Posted by NJFitnessGuy (Member # 30886) on :
quote:Originally posted by anuta: I would recommend to everybody on this site, despite of what kind of treatment you have chosen, abx, photons, herbal, etc� to do energetic tests (ART or dowsing, doesn�t matter). The priority to treat can change every week, even often sometimes. If you don�t know what to address how you would address it?
I see energetic tests as a key to success!!! I have started testing energetically and the photon treatment about a year ago and during this year I have progressed the most.
Especially if you are restricted in funds, this will cut-off all unnecessary spending, you will only do the things that your body needs at the moment. Ideally is to do it every day, I do test 2 or 3 times per day, but I do it myself. It is not hard to learn it.
I also prefer to have my own PE-1 device to be able to treat when I need and if you have multiple family members that are sick (my husband has Lyme too), it is a necessity.
Thanks Anuta..
My Biontologist claims that her Chiren machine will tell you exactly what needs to be addressed and only if your body wants/needs it, it will take the treatment. She said my body wanted the treatment for lyme, so although she cannot legally diagnose me, she is certain that the lyme is one of my main culprits. She also treated me for heavy metals on Monday. Nothing done with co-infections yet.
I have an appointment in 3 weeks with an ART practitioner who has worked with Dr. K for the past 8 years. She seems to be very lyme literate.
I was watching youtube clips of Dr. Omura`s O-ring testing in Japan, and it looked very interesting. Seems like its easy to perform on your own or with anyone.
Money will definitely become an issue for me, and I would like to follow your idea of getting a PE1 unit and treat myself on a year round basis. I will not be able to afford my Biontologist for much longer, and realize I will need long term treatment.
Is the PE1 hard to use? One of my worse symptoms is reading comprehension and learning new things. I have learned much of my stuff from this board slowly over the past 13 years and video clips.
Thanks for all the information.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Oxygenbabe: I think have posted few times about KPU. I�m still on Core, as my toxic load goes down, the dosage of Core also goes down.
Last week I�ve treated Rickettsia, as I �found� it in my jaw, so the next day I had to increase the dose of Core. When I started the supplement I was severely depleted., so it was tough, but in 2 months I felt 100% .
Tammy: testing for blocked regulation is the first test of energetic tests . But since I started using photons , my regulation is always open. Excessive toxins before or during treatment will almost always cause blocked regulation, the easiest way to unblock it for me is tapping.
It is amazing thing to see- you tap for 1-2 minutes and your regulations opens. I learn tons of things by watching Dr.K. seminars on DVDs. You can buy it on his website.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, do you have a link to Dr. K on tapping?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Oxygenbabe: unfortunately DR.K courses are on DVD, but you can check-out Dr. Mercola EFT points and technique here http://eft.mercola.com/.
Dr. K. MFT is just slightly different as he is using few additional tapping points (ie. back of the head) and recommends to make humming sound when there is no affirmation said. Tapping top of the head and the eyebrows always work well for unblocking.
Tammy: I combine few techniques in one. I use Biotensor and it feels like it became a part of me. I also do O-ring, but I always recheck with tensor just to make sure. Plus I use Dr. K technique to check for switching, unblocking and body scan per organs.
I guess you can just adapt the methods to whatever works for you. For example, DR. K. using arm tests, but you always need an �arm person� to be able to test and you can�t test yourself with this method.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
Hello: Brussels appears to have offered to buy nosodes and ship them to people in the USA? If this is the case, I would very much be interested. Anyone else living in Germany or near a pharmacy with nosodes who could do this, please PM me. Much thanks.
I have some DesBio and a few other nosodes but they are years old and I fear they have lost their potencies.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
You can order any types and any potencies of the nosodes by e-mail [email protected] from Hildegard pharmacy in Belgium. They ship to North America.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
Hi Anuta, thanks for the info. Which potencies would you receommend and in what order should I use them, and should I get the liquid or pelets?
Also I was interested in hearing from Brussels because I think she can get the Staufen Pharma Nosodes, aren't those a bit better than Hildegard?
Thanks
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Dan67 I don�t know what do you mean when you say a little bit better nosode. I have used all of them from Staufen, Desbio and Hildegard and others with great results.
I prefer Hildegard over all because they are custom made, so you can have any potencies of any pathogen that you would like. Other companies don�t even have nosodes that you can request from Hildegard.
I always order sugar pellets (better for storage!!) in potencies 30D, 60D, 100D, 200D, 30C, 60C, 100C, 200C, 1000C for all pathogens. But you have to test energetically or ART for which ones to use at the moment. You normally start with the lowest dilution(D) and work it up to the highest (C).
Posted by koo (Member # 30462) on :
NJFitnessGuy: "Is the PE1 hard to use? One of my worse symptoms is reading comprehension and learning new things."
You me both as far as learning new things. And I used to be such a quick learner!
I see all this info Anuta posts and my head just spins.
It's still something I am considering though.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
Thanks Anuta,
Getting all those potencies for ALL the infections sounds expensive???
And, do you need to put the sugar pellets in water or can you photon them as sugar pellets?
Thank you again for your help.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
koo: I�m sorry you find it difficult. It is not that difficult but I would say quite different from what we used too in the western medicine.
Homeopathy, energetic tests and energetic treatment�it all belongs to the quantum world. I find it very exciting living in this world and I�m kind of glad that I discovered it, even though trough suffering and having an awful disease. Still I�m very grateful!!!
You just have to accept it, I think this is the most difficult part. However, I don�t think Lyme patients have much of a choice.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Dan: You have to dissolve pellets in water using clear vials when photoning.
About the cost: One dilution (about 80 pellets) costs about 6 Eur., so the set for one pathogen will come up to 60Eur.
The definition of expensive is very stretchable: people pay tens of thousands of dollars when they go to Germany and still stay sick afterwards. Multiply the amount you pay for your supplements each month by the number of months that you have been sick. Is that expensive?
I don't buy supplements or herbs any more, because I don't test positive for it (even Core stopped testing positive this week- so I guess that KPU is fixed for me for now).
All my treatment (killing and detoxing) became homeopathic, but even that I don't ingest but mostly take trough photons. So you would only have to buy it once in your life and from financial perspective I find it very economizing.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
quote:Originally posted by dan67: Getting all those potencies for ALL the infections sounds expensive???
A vial of blood covers everything
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Well, I've tried blood-undiluted and even diluted and succused to potentiate it - it didn't work for me.
There could be few reasons for that. One is that pathogens don't stay in the blood but go mostly into tissues.
Another reason could be that blood as a nosode carries too much mixed information, so it is hard for the body to understand. When a simple pathogen nosode is used - the immune system gets clear order - find and attack this particular pathogen.
Posted by geronimog (Member # 34875) on :
Hi, I�m new here. I�m an ME/CFS sufferer who�s also tested positive for Lyme and co-infections. I�m very interested in picking up a PE-1, and I�m wondering if anyone has a line on a second-hand machine. I understand we�re not supposed to be advertising but perhaps doing this in reverse will be okay with the moderators. PM me if you have any leads.
Thanks. I�m sure you�ll all be seeing me around here as I try to figure things out.
Geronimo
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
aunta - thanks for the info about the VER nodose from DesBio. I'm going to look into it. I took a quick look at the website but you have to have a login to get further info. I just saw a herbal tincture mixture for parasites from them.
Does anyone dowse from a list of pathogens to see if they have them? There are so many pathogens & areas of the body where they could be located - for example... how could you know you have Rickettsia in you jaw?
O2babe - I looked at the Xlight info. Why do you think it's stronger than the Sota? It has mixed wavelengths of like - ie: red, infrared, blue, white... I'm not sure - but it may be better to use just one or 2 similar wavelengths rather than mixing them. Also - I couldn't find any specifics for the Xlight to compare/contrast with the Sota or other devices.
Elixa has several devices in different wavelengths without the Nogier frequencies for a reasonable price. Most people here seem to prefer the frequencies even though there aren't many studies about them.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Hi sparkle, I find dowsing on the pathogen itself is less accurate that testing on the remedy to treat it. Sometimes if you ask question "do I have Ehrlichia present in my body?" you can get negative answer, but if you test remedies that kill Ehrlichia you will get yes.
In my case I test with pathogen nosodes which is a pathogen diagnostic and the treatment at the same time. This is solid like a rock. If you test for the nosodes in your hand that means you have it in your body.
To find out where pathogens are located in my body- I do modified DR. K body scan. He tests each organ by muscle testing. I basically do the same holding one hand on the organs, but using tensor to answer the questions.
If lets say I touch my liver and then ask if there is any pathogen is present in my liver, I would then would ask if it is bacteria, fungus, protozoa, etc... to specify the class. Then I move to my nosodes to find out what it is. Yes, the list of pathogens is huge, but my "nosodes library" is quite big too and still growing. When I don't have specific nosode, I would test on the image of the pathogen.
I hope all this makes sense.
Imagine, I'm a pharmacist, working for big pharma company. Last week at work, I tested one of my colleagues. We've found out many things and I think he was shocked. Sometimes people are not ready to face the truth about their health, in particular science people. He said, they should take away my pharmacist diploma for doing the witchcraft. Well at least he didn't suggest to burn me !!!
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
This thread is fascinating!
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
I have also found you need to check the different dilutons of a pathogen nosode. You may get a no for one dilution, but a yes on one that is more diluted. Meaning you still have the pathogen, but not at as high a level as before.
You may also not need CORE for awhile and then you may need it again if more metals come to the surface. They seem to come in waves for me.
Blessings.
Hiker53
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks Aunta! I'm going to have to check Dr. K's info. I should look over his techniques for ART. I just use some basic dowsing. It's something I have to give more thought to. There's just so much - I get overwhelmed sometimes.
I agree hiker - I alternate things many times. That has been happening for me with MMS. I've been putting off doing the Core. I think I have to do it, though.
I'm going through some personal stuff so I didn't want to have to deal with getting too ill. Does anyone take vitamins with the infrared light? Maybe one could do the Core that way?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Wow, thank you Sparkle for the question about Core and photons. I've never thought of that.
In order to use any medication with photon, we would have to create homeo dilution of it. Remember, photons only work when the remedy is transparent liquid. I have already done homeo versions of tinctures, like cilantro and Rechtregulate, but I never tried to do homeo version of the supplement.
I don't take Core anymore, but I tested today asking if the homeo dilution of the Core will be as effective as the capsule. The answer was yes.
All we have to do, is to try to make it and test it. I can't do it, since I don't test positive for the supplement itself. Sparkle, I challenge you to try it and let us know !!!
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, just curious, how many pathogen nosodes do you have in your healing library?
Hiker53--how are you doing? I know you've been at this for a while. Have you seen significant improvements?
We are camping again--it really helps so much. And getting exercise hiking/walking on the steep hills almost every day.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
oxygenbabe
I think I have gotten the lyme and co-infections, so have taken a break from photon therapy. Worked on parasites and metals.
I am a lot better than I was prior to the photon therapy. However, I had a lot of nerve damage and that will take time to heal even when body is fully cleaned of toxins and parasites.
In order to teach fulltime I have to go slow at treatments.
Hiker53
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I think brussels & I were trying biophoton glutathione a while back. I think I stopped needing it. It may be possible. It just takes time to make the dilution. It's a bit time consuming.
re: Remember, photons only work when the remedy is transparent liquid.
How do you know this, aunta?
I'll let you know if I have time to try homeopathic Core. I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment. I have to order it. I'm also going to order some of the VER. Thanks again for suggesting it. I feel like I have to take the parasite treatment to the next level.
How about homeopathic/biophoton MMS? or Bach flower remedies? That might be interesting, too...
BTW - just for people's info - the Cherin is very different than this technique of using homeopathic remedies with the PE1, Bionic 880 or other device.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Also - do people think you can put a few drops of homeopathic preparations on a cotton ball & tape it to the solar plexus instead of using glass vials?
How many times do people use the glass vials with the infrared light?
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
sparkle7
I did photon therapy for a little over a year (with breaks). I used the same glass nosodes multiple times. For example the whole time I treated bartonella (3 or 4 months with breaks) I used the same nosodes.
Now, when I used my blood, I used fresh blood each time.
I am not sure why, but I think the use of clear glass for the homeopathic preparations would be better than cotton balls.
Hiker53
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
I once photoned UNDILUTED antibiotic (Bactrim) in the bactrim prescription bottle and it worked wonders for me for a few weeks, so the dilution isn't always necessary perhaps?
Oxygenbabe, what do you like about camping? Just curious.
Hildegard never responded to my emails to buy nosodes, I wish they would.
So far after learning for a year, I feel I have a pretty good understanding of the treatment photoning, but I am having a hard time getting good nosodes. I've used DesBio and they help, but I'd like to try Sanum, Staufen, or Hildegard, can anyone help me get them? I will pay.
Also, if anyone could explain a basic guide of dowsing or testing nosodes, I'd be grateful. Sometimes I can just hold the nosode and feel my body react to it, this is how I've been testing.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
Hildegard wrote back and says they need a prescription to send me nosodes! Where would I get one?
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Just google "dowsing instructions" to learn how to dowse. I can recommend some sites if you can't find what you need.
There's alot of good free info on the internet. You can also look for books on-line or at the library.
I think alot of people here use the bobber style dowsing for medical purposes as opposed to the pendulum. It seems to be faster & easier for supplements, etc.
It just takes a little practice.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Dan: I'm surprised Hildegard requesting prescriptions. They never requested from me or from anybody else. Look oxygenbabe just received the nosodes with no problems. I would suggest that you call them and discuss you order over the phone. May be they will be able to help you more.
You can order Sanum nosodes in US, almost all natural health products suppliers carry it. Iherb has great prices and choice.
Sparkle: Before doing any moves in my treatment I test everything energetically. So to answer to your question how do I know that photons work with clear liquids-I say based on my tests.
I have tested that before: Can I use amber vials with liquid nosode? Yes I can. Will amber vials diminish the effect of photons + nosodes? Yes it will.
Can I use sugar pellets nosodes? No, I can't.
You have also asked can we treat by putting the liquid nosode on the cotton and tape it on the solar plexus? Yes we can. Will it have identical results as putting the nosode in the clear vial . No, it won't. Will it be less effective? Yes.
I have also tested MMS. Accordingly to my tests, MMS can't be used energetically. However, I never tested positive for MMS. My husband took it for 3 days and then stopped testing for it.
Using undiluted substances will work with nosodes. Like Dr. W. uses mother tinctures for pathogens in his treatment, but it will not eradicate the pathogen.
Hiker: You said that you treated Bartonella for 4 months. Is it eradicated? Did you go up to 1000C dilutions? Bartonella was quite easy to eliminate, it took less then 2 months for me. Babesia and haemomycoplasma is another story. Very stubborn!!! But it worked still. Babesia is gone after 4 months, so will haemomycoplasma.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I was actually thinking about the mechanism of action of this whole photon + nosode treatment and I had this idea.
DR. K. recommends to take all the medications from non-clear containers and put them into clear vials when he does muscle testing. He explains that the photons that are emitted by the meds will be read easier by the body and the test results will be more accurate. If you test the med in the container that is not transparent - is the same thing as simple name test without the substance.
I think photons + nosodes is the same. You let the photons emitted by the nosode react with photons emitted by you. Infra-red device just potentiates the effect.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Anuta,
The bartonella is gone. While I treated for 4 months total, I took a lot of breaks. It was not 4 months in a row. I just want people to understand that using photon therapy without breaks is not a good idea. So, I probably did 2 rounds of 4 weeks of treatment.
I followed the Dr. W method of treating for 4 weeks or so, but leaving 2 days inbewteen each treatment. Then I took at least a month off. So the total time was 4-4 months, but most of that time was taking time off after treatment--hope that makes sense.
I started with bartonella nosodes and then used blood.
Hiker
Posted by aMomWithHope (Member # 19255) on :
Hiker,
Did you buy the bartonella nosodes from desbio or in Germany? What potencies?
What about mycoplasmosis pneu & fermentens?
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
I used the Desbio bartonella nosodes and blood (and the touch of a Christian energy healer)
I also used some candida nosodes that I got in Germany.
I did not test for needing the mycoplasmosis pneu and fermentens.
<>< Hiker53
Posted by aMomWithHope (Member # 19255) on :
I just checked the desbio website, and it says they only sell to healthcare practitioners. I am not one.
Are they available through another site? How would I get these? Also, do they come in several different potencies or is there just one vial?
Deseret Bartonella series have dilutions up to 200X. I have used them too for 1.5 months. After I ordered Hildegard C dilutions did 3 sessions and Bartonella was gone.
I have also used Mycoplasma series from Desbio (it's a mix from different species of Mycoplasma) but again their dilutions is only up to 200X. That didn't eradicate it. I had to order C-dilutions for Myc. hominis, fermentans, pneumonia and haemofeelis.
All mycoplasmas are gone, but haemofeelis is still here. I'm working on it. Haemomycoplasma is the one that DR. F. calls haemobartonella on his blood slides. It is very stubborn one!!!
Posted by aMomWithHope (Member # 19255) on :
Anuta,
So what should I order then? The complete deseret Bartonella up to 200X from your source as well as the Hildegard C dilution (or is there a series from there as well)? Or just order everything from Hilde?
And, the same for mycoplasma? Order up through deseret 200X from your source and then C-dilutions from Hilge? Or everything from Hilde?
(You can pm me if you'd rather not say specifics on here.)
I'm fairly certain that Lyme has been gone from dd for some time now and the remaining 2% for dd is from mycoplasma (maybe ferm, but could be any of them) as well as any residual Bart, so we'd love to see if the PE1 will take care of it.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Right now, I order all potencies from Hildegard. It is much more convenient and it comes in sugar pellets , which will last a lifetime.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks Aunta. I'm a bit busy with stuff right now so I can't really delve into all of this right now. I will get back to everything you & the others wrote - when I can.
I am going to order the VER. I tested "yes" via dowsing for that & The Core.
re: "Haemomycoplasma is the one that DR. F. calls haemobartonella on his blood slides. It is very stubborn one!!!"
Wow - this is really something! How did you find out about this?
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re: "Can I use sugar pellets nosodes? No, I can't."
Also - you said that the sugar pellet nosodes were a "no". Is that correct? You recommended them above...
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
I cannot speak for Anuta, but perhaps the sugar pellets are dissolved in distilled water and put into a clear vial. Would love to hear more about preparing the sugar pellets for photon work.
Hiker53
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Hiker is absolutely right. You can't use pellets as is in the vial for photoning, you have to dilute it first. In energetic testing-it is very important the way you formulate you questions because it understood literally. I always ask the same question at least in two different ways just to make sure.
In regards to the haemomycoplasma, yes that was big discovery for me too. I don't know was it a coincidence or God is guiding me. I always new that I had mycoplasma based on energetic tests and I had positive IGM for Myc. pneumonia too. I also did blood smear at Dr. F. lab long time ago and it came positive for haemobartonella.
When the rest of my pathogens' soup went into dormancy I was still testing positive for Mycoplasma. After eliminating Myc. pneumonia, penentrans, hominis, fermentans, my energetic tests were still saying that there is more myc in my body. I started to test on the image of different mycoplasmas to find out what I have. I tested positive for Mycoplasma haemofeelis. The image that I've seen was very similar like my blood smear from DR.F. Based on my tests it is the same thing.
I have ordered this nosodes from Hildegard and treating it. In the beginning the herx was HORRIFIC. Worse then anything else I have previously experienced. The worse ever anxiety, chills, sweats, neuropathy, muscle pain, rib pain, insomnia, kidney pain, name it....
I have found recently 2 publications on this specific pathogen which until 2011 was believed only affect animals, especially cats. But in 2011, one British woman was diagnosed with it, which apparently became "revolutionary scientific knowledge".
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks again, aunta! Do you happen to have a list of pathogens &/or toxins to dowse?
How do people deal with hormones & heavy metals when using this method of treatment? I'm starting to look into this now.
Yes - how to ask a question properly is really important. Does anyone have any suggestions about that? Sometimes it's hard not to be biased or afraid as to what we will find that we have.
I wouldn't want to dowse something like AIDS or hepatitis & get a positive...
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Sparkle,
I don't ask the questions such as: 1) Do I have Lyme or Do I have AIDS. I think the dowsing or energy testing responds better to "Would this supplement (or whatever) be could for me, good for my health and good for my wellbeing at this point in time?" or something to that effect.
Besides, the exact disease is not so important as the cure or help to improve it. I know I bought some nosodes that I never used, because I never energetically tested as needing them.
But while I was in Germany I did not know how to energy test, so I just loaded up on some different nosodes to bring home. Once I learned to energy test I found I did not need the nosodes or pehaps the photons were able to stimulate my immune system enough to take care of some of the pathogens without specific nosodes. (plus the blood nosode will help with a lot)
In terms of hormones--I never really had any issues using the photons, but I was very careful not to overuse the photons on my thyroid gland. If you have any thyroid trouble Dr. W had us use the bottom of our feet instead.
Some people say the photons move metals around. I have not seen any evidence of this, but metals did start moving out once I started decreasing the pathogen load in the body and once I killed parasites and candida.
Of course, others may have different experiences or opinions than I do.
Blessings.
Hiker53
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thanks hiker! I started having sciatica type pain & bad knee pain about a year ago. I was thinking it might be metals but I don't know. I was wondering if using photons & some homeopathic remedy could address this.
I started using MMS, too. My knee & leg pain has gotten worse. I don't know if I should just continue & add binders or try something with the infrared light.
I was also wondering if people had any experience with balancing the hormones out with photons & remedies, as well. It would be better than using bio-identical hormones if it works.
I like Advanced Bionutritionals products. I might look into them for detox purposes... I guess I'll dowse them.
I guess one would need a test kit to look to the remedies for answers to what to address. I just feel like I might be missing something that I may not have the remedy for. Some things address more than one illness.
So far, I dowsed that the VER homeopathic remedy would be good for me to do with the photons. The Core was a "yes" but I have to begin taking it. I don't think that's something to do with photons.
So, how many other things to address? I don't know... I don't want to do too much at once.
I guess it's a question of prioritizing. I have to order the supplements & go from there, I suppose.
I've been getting a "yes" for the MMS pretty consistently. I just don't want to overdo it. All of these things are pretty intense.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Sparkle, I would look into mycoplasmas. When all other co-infections left, mycoplasma came to the surface with lots of lower back pain, joint pain and fibromyalgia all over.
In regards to the metals, Desbio has Metox nosode containing different heavy metals that I use to test for metals. I've chelated metals for long time, so I don't test for it anymore, but in the beginning when I started to use photons, every time after the session I would test positive for the Metox. This is how I know that photons shift metals around.
When mycoplasma surfaced, it completely shut down my thyroid. I have had thyroid sarcode nosodes, so I could see right away when I started to test positive for all of those and thyroid supplements either. In the past 3 months that I'm fighting mycoplasma I have gained 20 lb. Just to tell you how awful this pathogen is.
I don't take these nosodes with photons, since I'm treating mycoplasma at the same time and don't want to mix the message, bit I could if I wanted. I also use Nogier frequencies on adrenals and thyroid to stimulate it.
I do test for pathogens too, but as hiker said, the tests for remedies in your hand are more solid. But you might not always have the remedy, in this case I test on pathogen nosode.
I also have Ergopathic test kits for protozoan, bacterias, viruses, fungal . They also have metals, but so does Dr. K. website. He also offers few diagnostic kits for toxins, pathogens, metals, etc...
If I don't test for any of the above, but still symptomatic then I would test on the image.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Anuta, thanks for the information about the myco. Since Eva Sapi found three strains of myco in Connecticut ticks, I bet these are an untold part of the "lyme story."
Dan, if you can camp in national forest or some pristine area you get all the natural healing there is. Some of our illness is perpetuated by heavy pollution, noise, EMF fields, light at night, indoor air toxins (ten times as much toxins in indoor air as outdoor at any given time), indoor toxic molds etc etc.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
Thank you. I've had to keep everything to a minimum due to financial constraints. I'm going to have to look into a basic test kit idea. A few remedies are not too expensive but it does add up over time.
It's also time consuming to dowse everything several times a day. How do people decide what to dowse? There are thousands of things...
I take Nascent iodine. I think it helps the thyroid.
I had a couple lab tests for mycoplasmas & they were negative. I was pretty surprised, actually. I haven't tested for them through dowsing, though. A long time ago - I had the test from Dr. Nicholson's lab, too.
I'm sure they could be acquired through alot of ways. I haven't studied them in a while. I pretty much ruled them out when my lab tests were negative.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
So if I want to order the haemomycoplasma from Hildegard, is that what it is called? I'm confused about all the choices of nosodes, what to call them, how to order them from Hildegard, how many dilutions to get, etc. Anuta, Brussels, it would be nice if you guys wrote out a how-to manual for us!
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
quote:Originally posted by lax mom: Is there a website to laern about Biophoton therapy?
If this is light therapy, how is blood involved?
I have spent so much $ on Lyme treatment only to 1) get sepsis, then 2) now have liver issues.
I'm thinking of saving up to jump outside the box and treat in another manner.
Any links would be appreciated!
I think of abx as thinking inside the box, herbs as outside the box, and photon therapy as, "what box?"
Light and nosodes/blood do two different functions. Light strenthens the body. Nosodes/blood give the immune system information on what to fight. Almost like the light is the car, the nosodes/blood is the GPS navigations system.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Six: LOL, Very funny about the box!!!!
Dan: If I would only have the time to do the manual, that would be nice. In the meantime, search on LN for PE1, Bionic, photons as key words. You will get tons of useful info. This is what I did when I started.
Brussels posted here in "PE1 Directions for Dummies" very detailed instructions on how to use photons + nosodes even if you can't do energetic tests.
Although I believe that energetic tests are MUST for successful treatment. This treatment is so custom made to individual needs, it would be almost impossible to give general instructions. The type of nosode, the potencies of nosodes, time of treatment, the breaks in between of treatments are based on the energetic tests.
However, it is all very possible to do by yourself. Just a year ago , I was in your chooses- what nosode? Today I'm pretty confident in treating myself and others. You can do it!!!
Heamomycoplasma is not any mycoplasma-it is specific strain that lives inside red blood cell(just like Babesia). I use Mycoplasma haemofeelis nosode to treat it.
Always starting from D (same as X in US) dilutions and working up to C( same as K) dilutions , up to MK in order to eradicate the pathogen.
Posted by dan67 (Member # 20344) on :
Is MK a single dilution, or is MK a series of dilutions like D and C?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
In homeopathy MK dilution = 1000K = 1000C. It is one dilution
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Ha ha Six. What box. Maybe Schrodinger's box
Posted by birdie67 (Member # 35994) on :
I am finally ready to start photons. I have a PE-1A and while i'm waiting for my dilutions to come from Germany wondering if I can go ahead and start with detoxing only? Detoxing chemicals is one of my major issues.
I have a biotensor so will check with that but looking for some help also.
Thanks so much.
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
posted 21 July, 2013 09:09 AM So I will get my PE1A in about a week. I also bought a mild hyperbaric chamber this week (pulling out all stops). As Dr. W used ozone I.V (can you tell me if it was right after, same day) what are your thoughts on combining the two therapies?
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Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Dr. W. used ozone right after the treatment. The nurse took out blood and put ozone in it and then infused it back into to the body. When I went in 2009, he was only doing the ozone treatment on those with severe nervous system problems. I do not know if that has changed or not.
I have no idea how a mild hyperbaric chamber would work with the PE-1.
Hiker53
Posted by Hambone (Member # 29535) on :
LOVE my PE1.
I bought mine in summer of 2011, I think? It is extremely powerful.
I was warned and warned and warned to detox detox detox. I did, but nowhere near enough. I didn't take it as serious as I should've.
Almost as soon as I started using the photons, maybe a couple weeks into it, I started noticing a tickling feeling under my right rib. The tickling got stronger and stronger and then felt full on like spasms. It got pretty bad and I ended up losing my gallbladder from biliary dyskinesia ( no stones, my gallbladder just crapped out ). I feel like I overloaded it with toxins.
When they warn you to heavily detox while using photons, please take it seriously.
Posted by birdie67 (Member # 35994) on :
Hambone,
What has helped you the most with your detox with photons?
I just started last week treating with them and want to make sure I stay on top of my detox.
Thanks so much!
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I agree with Hambone- detox could become an issue. In Germany , Dr. W. now uses ozone after photons session on all patients if you ask him. However, He follows up with detox IV , which are very powerful.
IMO: Not having able to do the IV at home, using two very powerful killers as PE1 and ozone could be too much.
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
Up, for Talktel.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hambone: When they warn you to heavily detox while using photons, please take it seriously.
Yes!!!
After Germany, I did Hulda Clark liver cleanses, coffee enemas almost daily, colon cleanses, etc. I was constantly focused on cleansing and not adding to the toxin load with bad food .... I ate a very clean diet.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
When I hear gallbladder - I always think of parasites! I think you have to be very careful about the parasites & the infrared light. I have said this many times here.
I know people like to work with the light & the remedies but it's really important to do some basic anti-parasite cleansing prior. I think the infrared light can make parasites worse. I'm not sure what it does exactly - but until we know, I would suggest to be careful.
I've heard about a few people who have had serious repercussions from using the infrared light. I'm not saying to not try it - just be very careful!
Parasites come in all shapes & sizes & can be very harmful to our health. They are very easy to acquire.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Nice this thread is still going on. I disappear from times to times, as lyme starts to be past history for us, despite new tick bites.
I think somehow, I became like my neighbors, I don't fall immediately sick after a tick bite, like before. I am still not happy when I pull a tick off, but anyway, not as scared as in the past.
I do hope you all find ways to get rid of lyme and keep rid of it.
I mean, the photons and nosodes help with immediate infections (they are the biggest help we got so far!), but the whole other job has still to be done (teeth, toxins, organ balancing, heavy metals, EMR cleaning, scar, psycho blockages etc).
So that lyme does not come back, despite new tick bites.
What photons brought to us, home, was the feeling we are somehow safe. I can't put my hands on fire, but that is today my inner feeling. I'm relaxed, that my daughter can play outside without much fear, as before.
Before, I was a scary cat, everything carried the danger of infections. We rarely use repelents, and we are in contact with 'nature', every single day.
It took time to feel that. It's been now more than 4 years totally lyme free, treatment free. Despite being bitten every year, a couple of times each year.
In fact, I should be scared of toxins, EMRs, chemical additives, etc, not of bacteria, viruses, mycoplasmas, parasites...
It all depends on our immune system. We are a soup of living beings, and they become pathogenic only if our immune system is weaker than them.
It is so true, but when active infections are around, haunting us day and night, we can't believe that the fault is ours, not from 'them', pathogens.
Of course, killing them is important, or they end up killing us. But long term, cleaning is the way to go!
We are still taking things to clean.
I just want to share some new discoveries from us, home:
- Moor (it is a black liquid, made from plants (I think), sold in Austria, it is mineral rich and, to me, an alternative to other heavy metal detox products. It is not advertised as so, but it does cause my body to detox intensely. I only take it in small doses, some people use that for many many purposes.
- Thuya in D6, D12, D30, D60, then D100 dilutions. They cause my joints to react. I believe it detoxes joints. I do not have arthrtis nor any visible problem, but during lyme, I had problems in many joints (fingers, toes, hips, knee, spine). I'm sure my joints are loaded with toxins, that is why they got sick with borrelia.
These thuya are NOT intended to affect joints (not that I know, from the homeopathic literature), but I was wondering why my joints always react to thuya. After reading in the internet, I discovered that American Indians used thuya as a remedy against arthritis!!
Well, that might be the explanation. So I am trying thuya, it is usually only given for skin diseases, or for viruses, and it also reinforces the immune system. Start slow, or your joints may get all painful.
Of course, I do test this stuff energetically. That is how I discover the potencies I need.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Many people here lose the gall bladder. Just keep reading lymenet.
I don't know the reason, but somehow, during active lyme (and lyme treatment), problems with liver (high enyzmes) and gall bladder pains are common.
I hates suffering and pain, so I always did my best to avoid liver pain, gall bladder pain, kidney pain, etc. I took loads of cleaning stuff, as much as I could.
You all can write down: the main reason why I fell sick with lyme, is because I do not detox well. That means, I am full of toxins.
It took me ages to admit that. But unfortunately, it is true.
Good news is that: the more you get clean, the better your body is able to start detoxing again on its own.
It's just a matter of thinking in years, not in days. It takes some patience, persistence, but when you are not fighting infections, that is fine. ---
Oxygenbabe: did I answer your email?
if not, soooo sorry. I've been on vacations.
I hope you got all info you needed for your treatment!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I'm giving thuya to my cat. It is a remedy used before and after vaccinations, to alleviate vaccination symptoms.
I gave to my cat because it seemed to be not too strong (her hair was not shiny, she looked a bit thin). Her hair got better (I don't know if it is because of summer, though), she got a bit of weight, too.
I think I will continue. I saw a dog that had terrible parasitic problem on the skin, and lost most of her hair.
Years later, I saw the dog again, and her fur was wonderful. I asked the owner, and she told me she gave thuya for the dog, before her vaccination, and as she didn't react like before, she kept on thuya for months and months. that is where I got the idea for my cat.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
TrinkMOOR
Es enthält ca. 20% Huminsäuren sowie wertvolle Pflanzenstoffe aus über 300 verschiedenen Kräutern, Wurzeln und Beeren. Trinkmoor stärkt die Darmschleimhaut und reguliert die Darmflora. Da es eine entgiftende Wirkung besitzt, bindet es aktiv Toxine. Es sollte deshalb immer in einem zeitlichen Abstand von ca. 2 Stunden zu Arzneimitteln eingenommen werden, da Trinkmoor diese Wirkung beeinflussen kann.
------ Moor Drink: It contains about 20% humic acids and valuable phytochemicals from over 300 different herbs, roots and berries. Drinking moor strengthens the intestinal mucosa and regulates the intestinal flora. Since it has a detoxifying effect, it binds active toxins. It should therefore always be taken at a time interval of about 2 hours to medicines, since drinking can affect bog this effect.
------- I just copy-paste-google translate one of the information about Moor. It is rich in humic acids. Its effect is very strong. I know a lady who had lyme and kept drinking that. She didn't cure lyme, but that Moor kept her life at a reasonable level.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Brussels, I need some help. Hildegaard seems to have shifted policies. In May they sent me Borrelia and Babesia in the varoius dilutions. In July I requested some others because I got another (second I guess) tickbite! ARG. So I requested mycoplasma, erlichia etc--I spoke with Anuka by skype and decided to do all that I test for myself by o ring.
So I had to get an Rx this time. From my doc. So he wrote it out and I sent it and heard nothing. Then I wrote and asked what was happening. The long and short of it is they say they have none of those except borrelia lonestari.
Now they don't have burgdorferi any more and a few of my remedies got wet from a dry box supposedly safe in 30 feet of water--that was in our cooler when we were camping. THe water seeped into the vials and the remedies were wet and stuck.
Anyway, where did you get your remedies? I am getting a few pellets each of the ones Anuka has as she's so kind but I want to get them all in vials and now Hildegaard either will never have them or at the moment this summer does not have them. They were closed last week.
Is there another source? Or are they perhaps now cautious with international sales?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Maybe they are on vacations? It's vacation time in Belgium.
I know their website was also changing lately.
Here in Europe, the situation is getting harder and harder, for alternative treatments. Lots of persecution, many remedies taken off the market.
That is why, when you got the homeopathic pellets, you should store them as gold as they are still useful a hundred years later.
In Germany, I cannot buy borrelia nosodes anymore, only for tests (they come closed in vials, not supposed to be ingested). Of course, you could open these and use them, but no one may know you do that.
I stopped using borrelia nosode very long ago, since my borrelia went dormant in 2009. I used until the 1000K, that was it. A couple of bucks for getting borrelia dormant for now 4 years. Amazing.
My daughter still used some nosodes once or twice more, but I didn't buy them again (I re-used what I had, anyway, the amount we use is ridiculously small... I think I can still store these remedies for home use until I die, and no need to buy anything anymore).
i can also copy these remedies in my copy device, but the imprint only remain strong for a short period of time.
But I am worried, if Hildegard does not sell these nosodes, it could mean, they won't sell the others (the penicylyns that have been so useful for other infections). I hope not.
I do hope they continue selling these stuff.
There is always Staufen pharma in Germany, that continues selling the low potency nosodes, used by dr. W. It's only the higher potencies. The worst, would be that you people have to do all dilutions by hand.
It is possible and that is what people did in the old times. I also did that, spent DAYS doing dilutions by hand.
It's been long I haven't visited Hildegard (they are far in the north of the city, and we're healthy). I go to Brussels just sometimes in a year.
So I have no idea what's going on. Has someone called them? You got to speak either French or Dutch though....
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
They have been emailing with me. There seems to be a big change since May. They now must have an Rx. Then they left things for 5 weeks. Yes they are on vacation for a week now. But they said they only have lonestari, none of the others. I did think I was treating my remedies like gold. Since it was hot and we were camping, I bought a special dry box said to be waterproof to 30 feet underwater (thus for kayaking and diving) and guess what. In the cooler, that's all, with some ice melting, it became completely wet, and soaked through to the inside of the sealed pellet vial.
I am very upset. But I'm going to try and call again tomorrow morning my time when they are back from vacation and see if I can procure some of the remedies. Why would they have had borrelia burgdorferi before and not now? Maybe whenever you are in Brussels you can stop by.
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
Also they do speak English, so no you don't have to speak French or Dutch.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I will call them in French tomorrow. Will see. Selma where did u buy you potentiser machine?I have one from Eagle pro, but it only makes copies. I would like to nuy one like yours , to create higher potencies
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I have just contacted a remedy maker company in England. Costs about 550 pounds and looks like yours. Did you get it frm England?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Mine looks like that, I think that was the maker (there's nothing written on my device, so I can't be sure).
But I think the Eagle is good (if my memory is good). Don't they do potencies?
Mine works, but as I told you all, the remedies lose potency with time. I do prefer a real homeopathic remedy. Just produce it from an original source, at home, that is MUCH safer / effective, in my opinion.
I tried to see the mechanism, inside it, and it looks amazing how it would work. I just keep wondering. My tests say it does work, but if I didn't test, NO ONE would ever make me believe my machine work ....
I still though prefer to do my homeopathic dilutions by hand, when I have time and patience.
I buy a D3, then I can do anything I want with it, if you see what I mean. If you have ONE or TWO DROPS of the original tincture, you can produce so many stuff yourself.
---------- Anuta: look also into other homeopathic stuff (not for killing). Sometimes, you can be surprised what such remedies can do.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I just spoke with Hildegard- they still ship internationally, with a prescription though. Halleluiah!!!!
So until real nosodes are available, of course I would prefer to use them.
I use Eagle to make copies for detox and organ support homeo remedies, Sanum (that I ingest immediately, so no problem of loosing potency) to save money. It is trough though, without energetic tests it is impossible to say if this machine works.
Eagle doesn't make potencies, so I will probably buy this one form the link above just in case to be safe.
Me too I do nosodes by hands, but it takes LOTS of time. I did Babesia nosodes by myself up to 200C, it took me 2 weeks.
Posted by geronimog (Member # 34875) on :
I just received my SOTA LW a few days ago. I've been using it nightly, experimenting with the various settings. Three minutes on each of the eleven focus points. As Brussels says, the same effect should be achieved on the SOTA as the PE-1, it'll just take longer treatments.
A little die-off was noticed the first night and that was without a nosode. I felt nicely lit up the following day. They day after that was a bit of a slump, but I'm back up today.
So I'm hoping some of the biophoton veterans might be able to help me get started with nosodes and energy testing. Here are my questions:
Where do I buy the clear glass bottles?
What dilution should I be using to test to to see if a pathogen is present? I was thinking that I'd order just one nosode per possible pathogen, and then when I confirm it, buy the dilutions I'll need.
Do you know where I can pick up a cheap, decent biotensor?
Thanks, Graeme
Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
Im real interested to hear how the Sota LW device goes for you geronimog. It is affordable. I started a thread on photon light the other day with lots of links and a link to someone who does the work in Salt Lake City. I bet she can help you get the nosodes you want.
Geronimo, just google GLASS VIALS, you will find many alternatives. As long as they are transparent, and can fit liquid inside, anything should be fine.
Mine is said not to accept liquid, but I use it anyway with liquid, without problems....
Get the smallest vials, no need to get bigger ones.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
biotensor, hand made, I heard his are good, and he takes donations, I think.
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