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Posted by lappedave (Member # 40712) on :
 
Bart symtoms ?
 
Posted by prayerworks (Member # 37602) on :
 
For me, pain in toes and bottom of feet, calf pain, anxiety, depression, ocd, blurry vision.
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
From Burrascano Guidelines:

"Indicators of BLO infection include CNS symptoms out of proportion to the other systemic symptoms of chronic Lyme. There seems to be an increased irritability to the CNS, with agitation, anxiety, insomnia, and even seizures, in addition to other unusually strong symptoms of encephalitis, such as cognitive deficits and confusion. Other key symptoms may include gastritis, lower abdominal pain (mesenteric adenitis), sore soles, especially in the AM, tender subcutaneous nodules along the extremities, and red rashes. These rashes may have the appearance of red streaks like stretch marks that do not follow skin planes, spider veins, or red papular eruptions. Lymph nodes may be enlarged and the throat can be sore."

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Suggest you read and STUDY this document.
 
Posted by faithful777 (Member # 22872) on :
 
I don't know if everyone gets all the symptoms of Bart, but for me it is bone pain in the legs, like someone is breaking my legs. Burning muscle pain in the quads and feet, along with my hands.

I have the nodules under the skin in the legs. Insomnia can be other things too, but that is one of my issues. Symptoms cross with other coinfections and Lyme.

The lymph nodes in my throat were enlarged but are now gone with 18 months of treatment.
 
Posted by didogs (Member # 40101) on :
 
I never got the burning muscle pain on bart antibiotics. After only one dose of A-bart-man!! I had the burning muscle pain and bone pain.

How are your other bart symptoms Faithful? Any improvements?
 
Posted by lax mom (Member # 38743) on :
 
During Bart abx treatment, the soles of my feet would hurt when walking first thing in the morning.
 
Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :
 
Never had my soles burn, never had red/purple stretch marks.

Anxiety, insomnia, early waking, irritability, neuro issues (that could be Lyme, tho) headaches, all the time.
These got better after Bart treatment.

Never had a nodule until after I started treatment, one came up on my neck,

and my LLMD told me I wasn't detoxing enough.
It's gone now.
 
Posted by Bitten in Bergen (Member # 34067) on :
 
I have anxiety, but I thought it was coming from the babs. Lots of nodules though - didn't realize it can be bart.

But my bart testing came up positive, and when I was briefly off abx, the bart flared and I started having the "classic" bart symptoms of the sore soles, painful shins, severe muscle weakness, etc.

Still disappointed that my current llmd is not being more aggressive about treating the bart - Burrascano is pretty clear in the guidelines about how important it is to treat the bart effectively if you want to get better from lyme.

No matter - will be seeing new llmd next week and will be keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Posted by OtterJ (Member # 30701) on :
 
some bone pain in my wrists and hands, and in the muscles in the tops of my arms like someone has punched my in the arm. My clue was night sweats that occurred in my upper body--from my boobs up, weird, huh? For a while my llnd thought it might be babs, but we moved on to bart and I felt better after treatment for Bart.
 
Posted by BuffyFan (Member # 34679) on :
 
So if the bottoms of my feet would hurt when walking when I had a herx(from flagyl)

does that sound like I have Bart?
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Does anyone know exactly what the Bartonella streaks are? Active infection site? Toxins depositing there and being attached by immune system? Other? Any research papers on this?
 
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
Maybe this will be of interest...

https://sites.google.com/site/virginialyme/tick-borne-diseases/bartonella

Be sure to check the very bottom of the page for more articles.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
BTW- FYI...

Bartonella quintana (B. quintana) is the one that was called "shin bone fever" many years ago and also "trench fever".

It was named after the illness affecting soldiers in the trenches during the war- after they were bitten by lice.

Also noted in the literature, it is thought of as a disease of the homeless and alcoholics in some inner cities.

If you press on your shin bone and rub your fingers up your lower leg it should not hurt. If it does, suspect Bartonella quintana.

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