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Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
So I decided to have a gluten free pasta dish last night. Minus the carbs it was very healthy and loaded with veggies and just a tad of olive oil.

I cannot recall the last time I ate pasta....Anyway, I woke up this morning with both hands completely numb! I do have some yeast issues and am wondering if the numb hands could be from eating too many carbs and feeding yeast.

I also started back on ooo, ole and pau d' arco. Any thoughts?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Sounds like a real possibility to me. I'll move this to Medical for you!!
 
Posted by Pushingthru (Member # 28734) on :
 
I would figure the carbs added to the yeast, I've had the same stuff and can't eat any carbs without problems. No starches at all of any kind. It stinks but hopefully one day...
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Ingredients in a commercial pasta sauce, or any ingredients you used to make it?

No need to answer, just considerations.

Any "natural flavors" (which can be MSG or any kind of chemical to mess with your nerve cells, really)?

Any other ingredients that you are not sure of?

Sodium content? Sugars (beyond from just the tomatoes, that occurs naturally)?

From glass jar or a tin (if tin, was it lined)?

If you had any commercial item, post the link and we can take a look at ingredient list.

Cheese? THAT could do it, too. If grated parmesan cheese in a container, is it aluminum free? Not all are. Read the ingredient list to see what else is in there.

Sadly (and I really do not like to mention this but . . .) if you had any kind of meat in that, the source of the meat has to be considered, too, with the additives not just at the processing plant but what the animal was fed.

If from organically raised free-grazing cattle, though, they would not add stuff afterward.

The amount of pasta vs. sauce would also matter. AND if it contains corn.

I can't tolerate the GF pasta with corn in it. It will cause my nerve pain.

I do fine with Tinkyada's or Trader Joe's ORGANIC Brown Rice Pasta once in a while -- but only 1/4 of what I might have used in the past.

And, I don't have an issue with candida (not on abx -- but when was Olive Leaf Extract was a fabulous protector against candida).

Still, the SAUCE (even if homemade) will cause more trouble with candida than even the best GF pasta. Anytime any vegetable is pulverized, it turns closer to a simple sugar. Of course, with lots of veggie pieces AND a good amount of protein AND good fat, this is minimized but still . . .

for someone with active candida, it may be best to consume all veggies in their whole state (well, cut up but not pureed).

You've done well with all the veggies (hopefully some good meat or protein, somehow - as that is needed to balance the complex carbs.

Be sure the olive oil is FRESH, extra virgin cold pressed in glass. Now, taste a tiny bit of it straight. It should have a little earthy bite to it but not taste rancid. If so, that could be it. It need not be organic but do know the source. Not all are real. Lots of fake olive oil out there.
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Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
Thanks....Only ingrediants were rice pasta, asparagus, zuchini, winter squash, peppers and small amount of extra virgin cold pressed olive oil. Very clean....No sauce and nothing out of a jar.

I have a corn allergy and cannot eat corn g.f pasta - instant migraine trigger.

I typically have protein with every meal and this is one time that I had no protein. Maybe that put me over the edge.

I am thinking it was the carbs feeding the yeast too. I also feel like I drank a bottle of wine last night and feel hungover.

Oh where oh where is my Nystatin and Diflucan??!!??
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Another consideration. Did you carry a big pot of water from stove to sink to pour in a colander to drain? That could put stress on wrists if you have carpal tunnel.

It's best to never do that, for many reasons and use a pierced scoop of some sort to retrieve anything that might be in boiling water. Then let the water cool before moving it.

I also found I can prepare with LOTS less water in a small pot.

But, since candida is an issue for you, it sounds best to avoid that. A little WILD RICE might be an option. It's really a grass and more (good fiber) cellulose sort of fiber (non absorbable) than even other dark rices.

And, yeah, protein with every meal (or before) really matters to avoid a glycemic hit, however you do that. I keep a few cans of Wild Planet "safe" sardines in the fringe for a quick protein snack.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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You might also consider:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030549;p=0

OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT - LINKS
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Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
Yeah, I just started back on Olive Leaf Extract two days ago and could most certainly be having a die off. I typically take Molybednium (sp) to help process out the toxins but ran out.

I think it is a combo of starting back on some antifungals and carb overload.

I tend to do well with rices - wild, brown and black.

Hubby drained the water so that is okay.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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[ 11-22-2013, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by desertwind:


I am thinking it was the carbs feeding the yeast too. I also feel like I drank a bottle of wine last night and feel hungover.


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Dead ringer of a yeast symptom.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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LymeToo,

I resent the deletion of some safety detail for pasta scoops and skimmers.

It is very relevant considering both wrist stress and burn hazards of carrying a big pot of boiling pasta water from stove to sink.

The items posted were for everyone's safety. So no one had to carry a big pot of boiling water that could ruin someone's life if someone trips.

If you don't want to read it, stroll on by. For someone who has not seen such unique products before, this could be a burn saver for them and family members.

This is a thread about pasta & numb hands. It was a nice addition. Not "off topic" at all.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=032989;p=0

Topic: Avoid burns, wrist stress - PASTA SCOOPS

Not just for pasta . . . for straining bone broths, etc.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Wrist stress, even a one time lifting of something heavy, can trigger numb hands -- especially for many here who have carpal tunnel issues and other pain / structural challenges.

Many here also have balance issues & some startle at the slightest sound or light trigger. Hmmm. Carry a pot of boiling water? There may be a better way.

And, even if "hubby" does this, gee, they can trip, too.
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Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
I mentioned hubby draining the water to note that I did not strain my wrists.

Thanks for everyones feedback and it's salad and grilled chicken for dinner tonight - back to basics.
 


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