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Posted by Cattail (Member # 24357) on :
 
The following list are symptoms that have showed up over about 8 months time. I am thinking parasites. It started with eye allergy shiners and my itching burning and swollen eyes are the most painful still. At the time it started I remembered recently that I was heavily into barn work and grooming horses and some of them not the healthiest because the work was for my rescue. I was bitten by flies and mosquitos that were biting my horses.

I am reaching out for a good thing to try to see if it is parasites. I tried salt /c and cannot tolerate because it flared my autonomic nervous system condition within 2 days that had been in remission for 13 years. The funny thing is that I tried a horse paste for over a week with ivermectin and did not notice much excpet I caught the flu and had not had a cold or flu in 4 years since developing my Lyme and coinfections.

My symptoms are as follows and are getting worse after having the flu and are mostly when I am in bed at night:


Worsening 2x from Diflucan

burning, itching, hot,swollen allergy eyes (always and unrelenting)

blurry, discharge in morning in eyes

vibrations in face, front teeth, and sternum area

base of skull pain

a hiccup throat jerk

achey hips

congested nose

nerve pain on inner brow bones (cold makes worse)

I tighten my lips around my front teeth & holding breath

terrible daily headache on top of head and browbone headache at the same time

exhausted

up at 2amish every night and get insomnia without anxiety

Twitches everywhere on my face (both eyes rollup, top lip, bottom lip, jaw, crown of head, cheekbones, etc.

Feet and hand twitches

sore front top and and front bottom teeth


stiff neck

I am sure I am leaving out some. I am starting to get more and more worried because the beast in my head seems to be moving to my chest, I can feel it very recently. I pray someone can give me a bit of guidance.

Thank you and best to all and better health in 2014!!!!
 

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Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
 
Sounds like a bad bartonella infection.

The way you described your symptoms was really good, and reminded me of my bart symptoms before rif and zith.

I got my bart from a gazillion sand fleas.
 

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Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
 
I cant say if what you have is Bart or not but I have had some of your symptoms.

For me the predominant is foot pain, the long bones of my feet have ached and were sore with only rarely the soles of my feet hurting, which is suppose to be Bart so they say.

Since I started taking www.nutrasilver.com everything is much better. I started rife therapy about three weeks after starting the silver. Almost all of my symptoms are gone now.

For the eyes I put a drop of my silver directly into them 2 or 3 times a day. All that is gone now.

All my shortness of breath is fully gone now.
I no longer cry when I have to go up and down the 20 steps to my apartment and fly up and down them 10 or more times a day now. I hauled up 12 loads of wood, a new record, without any distress.

Ive been using silver since about Oct 10.

I have had a hard time sorting out what is lyme and what may be a co-infection which I have been trying to do in case I wanted to take some specific herbs... but so far the silver and rife is working well.

I also have had other blood parasites that the silver and rife have not done well with so I started taking Clarkia from Barlow company. Clearly there was a nematode in my blood and some say that biting insects pass these on too. I dont know how the treatment is going but I am feeling increasingly better. I decided not to get my blood looked at at the end of January as planned, perhaps in April. Then I will be able to see how well the parasites are clearing out, or not.

My headaches have been worse of late and Im atributing that to detox from parasites, as headaches always seem associated with detox for me. I started using a rife device that gives the frequencies with a pad instead of a light, placing the pads on opposite sides of my neck, I crank it up to high running lyme or neck tension frequencies, so it feels like a TENS unit and it has been extremely helpful.
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
Treating for parasites was a major factor for me in getting rid of the other infections as well. I would try starting with maybe an herbal antiparasitic such as Parastroy (starting with 1/2 the dose suggested and ramping up) and also a low dose salt/c. According to the Lymestrategies group, the salt/c will kill ketes and cysts as well as parasites.

Gael
 

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Posted by WPinVA (Member # 33581) on :
 
Maybe you developed a new allergy or there is something in your environment that you are reacting to.

I noticed you said that most of your symptoms are worse in bed at night. So you could start your investigation in your bedroom and go from there. Mold? allergens? pets? dust? etc?
 

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Posted by Cattail (Member # 24357) on :
 
Thanks for your help. Allergist ruled out allergies, too many pieces of the puzzle for him. I don't have allergies, but think that maybe parasites or another co-infection is doing this. It just keeps getting worse and worse especially my eyes. They are always in a terrible hyper-sensitive state. I had similar with Bartonella, but this is much much worse.
 

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Posted by sugarjo62 (Member # 41896) on :
 
What is salt/c?
 

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Posted by mlg (Member # 35383) on :
 
I had the same symptoms. Swollen eyes, discharge (sticky or oozing, etc.), head pain, congested nose.

It is proto/babesia or a blood born infection.

I would do anti-malarials, rotate them. Anti-parasitics, heparin.

Detox.
 

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Posted by Cattail (Member # 24357) on :
 
Ok, I am less than a week into Parastroy and a week into new abx which is IV Zith. The last few nights I have crushing pain in hips, worse insomnia (up entire night, not anxiety though) , last night had a head tremor like Parkinson's (looked like that), extreme worsening of jaw pain and teeth pain spresding to all teeth and jumping around to different teeth all day. The teeth pain is brutal, required a Percocet. It is mostly in the front top and and bottom teeth. Feels like they are being squished together at the roots. I am so worried they are going to fall out of my head. What the heck is going on here?

Also a new development that I thought was from Plaquenil. I have been seeing spots after I look at light all the time and glare bothers me alot. I look at objects and shut my eyes and see them as shapes after I shut my eyes. Had emergency eye doctor appt. and he said my eyes are perfectly fine. I am relieved for now, but what is spreading around my face? My face and head are crippled and being damaged so. My Lyme and Bart are for the most part very minimal issues.

I am wondering if theis is the Parastroy working or is the Zith making these head and face symptoms spread like the Diflucan did. Seems like each time I try a new abx, med this head stuff takes a step up and never gets better.
 

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Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
 
Your symptoms sound like a bart herx.

Insomnia.

The Parkinson-like head bob, eye floaters, feet leg hip pain.

Zith really goes and gets bart.

Sorry cattail

Dirty Rotten Bartdrels I call them now.

They are the bane of my existance.
 

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Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
Ditto what Gael and Mlg said: parasites, proto, babs. All are parasites.

If you are taking several things, your reactions could be from a combination of everything, so it's hard to say what is doing what. Teeth pain and insomnia are likely proto.

Sugarjoe, salt/c is a protocol (sea salt and powdered vitamin c). Amazon has a book on it, but you can find more info on THE PARASITE WARRIOR'S SUPPORT THREAD. It's a great thread that Gael started and it's loaded with info on parasites.
 

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Posted by j77 (Member # 42716) on :
 
Could someone describe what is referred to as an 'eye allergy shiner'?
 

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Posted by CD57 (Member # 11749) on :
 
I am with you on that Cattail.

Can you drop either Parastroy or Zith to see what is causing what?

Zith would hit a lot of Lyme bugs...are you on plaquenil with it?
 

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Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
 
I just realized I sound like a broken bart record. argh. sorry guys

CD has a good suggestion.

Hard to tell what is causing you these new symptoms.
Can you stop the parastroy for a week.

See how you feel on the zith and plaquenil.

Then start up the parastroy again?
 

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Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
 
I would put my money on the antiparasitic Parastroy stirring up your symptoms and causing you to herx. It is very strong. You can hold on the dose if it gets too rough and let the herx calm down and then continue.

Make sure your bowels are moving and drink plenty of water. FYI. allergies are on the symptom list for parasites.

Gael
 

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Posted by tick battler (Member # 21113) on :
 
I have had many of those symptoms and parasites were the cause for me. I will bump a thread called "for those with sick kids". It has a ton of info on the chlorine dioxide protocol that works wonderfully against parasites, lyme, coinfections, viruses and fungus.

For more info, go to www.mmsautism.org

hope this helps!
tickbattler
 

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Posted by Cattail (Member # 24357) on :
 
Hi guys. Want to tell you how the last week and a half have gone.

I quit the parastroy for over a week and no change at all. Which leads me to believe that like the Diflucan and Minocycline in the past, the Zithromax has worsened and spread this head and neck issue for me.

Some new things just this week are that my throat, skull and face are making noise when I am lying completely still in my bed. It is a cracking noise kind of. Also inside of cheeks sometimes feel like a ate something sour, like puckery feeling. My jaw is clicking on both sides when I open and close my mouth and itchy around mouth and temples when pain gets worse.

I restarted Parastroy yesterday with 1 dose a day instead of the 2 for now. I will report back to let you know what happens with that. I have my LLND appointment next Tuesday and am booking a dentist appointment today for sometime this week I hope.
 

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Posted by Cattail (Member # 24357) on :
 
Bump. Please see my update.

Thank you.
 

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Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cattail:
... The last few nights I have crushing pain in hips, worse insomnia (up entire night, not anxiety though) , last night had a head tremor like Parkinson's (looked like that), extreme worsening of jaw pain and teeth pain spresding to all teeth and jumping around to different teeth all day. The teeth pain is brutal, required a Percocet. It is mostly in the front top and and bottom teeth. Feels like they are being squished together at the roots. I am so worried they are going to fall out of my head. What the heck is going on here?

Also a new development that I thought was from Plaquenil. I have been seeing spots after I look at light all the time and glare bothers me alot. I look at objects and shut my eyes and see them as shapes after I shut my eyes. Had emergency eye doctor appt. and he said my eyes are perfectly fine. I am relieved for now, but what is spreading around my face? My face and head are crippled and being damaged so. My Lyme and Bart are for the most part very minimal issues.

I am wondering if theis is the Parastroy working or is the Zith making these head and face symptoms spread like the Diflucan did. Seems like each time I try a new abx, med this head stuff takes a step up and never gets better.

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