Along with other strange symptoms, I have developed over the last 4 months terrible excessive belching...out of nowhere. I've been wondering if this has ever been seen as a symptom of Lyme? Please let me know.
I've had all the usual GI tests...all to come back negative.
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
I would say candida also.
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Thanks. How could one get tested for this officially?
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
Testing For Candida
Candida is something of a controversial illness, and many medical professionals have not yet recognized it. Regretfully, this means that many patients are turned away and do not get the help that they need.
The problem is that many of the symptoms of a Candida overgrowth are quite general and can be attributed to a number of other illnesses.
These days more and more doctors are starting to diagnose Candidiasis. If you can’t find a qualified doctor who is willing to practice some alternative medicine, try to find a local naturopath who will do the tests for you instead. Here are some tests you can do at home:
•Candida Questionnaire •Spittle Test •Lab Tests
Candida Questionnaire
The Candida questionnaire was created by Dr. William Crook and is a useful tool for self-diagnosis. This questionnaire is appropriate for adults, both men and women. Print it out, complete each section and take it to your doctor.
The questionnaire itself is quite long so we have put it on a separate page – check it out here.
Spittle Test
Here’s a simple test that some Candida sufferers claim will diagnose your systemic Candidiasis. As we’ll mention below, the science behind this is a little suspect. Feel free to try the test, but take the results with a pinch of salt!
1. When you get up in the morning, and before you brush your teeth, eat or drink anything, fill a glass with bottled water at room temperature.
2. Spit some saliva gently into the glass.
3. Come back every 20 minutes for the next hour and check for some of these tell-tale signs of Candida:
- ‘Strings’ coming down through the water from the saliva at the top - Cloudy saliva sitting at the bottom of the glass - Opaque specks of saliva suspended in the water
So why do we think this test is unreliable? Ultimately, it tells you how thick your mucus is and very little else. And the thickness of your mucus is determined by many factors which actually have very little to do with systemic Candida or any other health problem.
If you have allergies or have recently eaten some dairy products, you will likely test ‘positive’ on the spittle test. Dehydration can also lead to a positive reading, which means that you are far more likely to test ‘positive’ after you wake in the morning.
Candidiasis diagnosis is no easy task, but your best bet is to go with how your feel, and ask your doctor for some blood tests. Read below to find out which tests you should get.
Lab Tests
If you and your doctor suspect that you have Candida overgrowth, these are the lab tests that he may run.
Blood Test An Anti-Candida Antibodies, or Candida Immune Complexes test. There are 3 antibodies that should be tested to measure your immune system’s response to Candida – IgG, IgA, and IgM. High levels of these antibodies indicate that an overgrowth of Candida is present. This is the most reliable test for Candidiasis that you can find.
Stool Analysis Your stool is directly analyzed for levels of yeast, pathogenic bacteria and friendly bacteria. However Candida often does not show up in this test, so the blood test is more reliable.
Urine Tartaric Acid Test This test detects tartaric acid – a waste product of Candida yeast overgrowth. An elevated test means an overgrowth of Candida. Again, this test can be unreliable so the blood test is more likely to give an accurate result.
Candida can be easily visualized with dark field live blood analysis. It is conclusive. MMS or Colloidal silver, a strong one, can help.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
marie .. It's like Lyme; the test could come back negative, yet your body is full of it.
Posted by canefan17 (Member # 22149) on :
Candida can cause belching? I always associated it with H Pylori & Bart.
I burp all the time. But it isn't acidic (like acid reflux might be). Just loud belches lol
If I'm lying down I have to sit up to really burp it out too Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Is belching related to lyme or a co-infection? You mentioned Bart...
I know I don't have h. Pylori (negative biopsy and breath test)...
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Also, would my LLMD be able to test me for Candida incase it's just that?
Posted by RZR (Member # 20953) on :
I have also been having issues with belching for the past month or so.
I have been back on Rifampin for bart for 10 days, but the belching hasn't improved yet. Just took my first full dose of Rifampin today. So, not sure if it's related to bart or not.
Posted by jwick25 (Member # 15190) on :
I currently have an overgrowth and have had lots of belching over the last 2 weeks.
Last time I had this, I had shortness of breath for short bouts at a time. It turned out to be from indigestion/heartburn. As soon as I belch, I feel better.
I have belching for more than a year now. Been treating Bart with rifampin for 3 months. It seems effective, some of my Bart symptoms are improving. The belching however remains. A reaction to some natural candida treatments leads me to believe i do have candida, and im hoping it also explains the belching.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
Anxiety and lactic acidosis underlying cause.
Good old baking soda.
Try a bath with it - a full box of it. 20min. warm water.
Liver..
"Converts lactic acid from a toxic waste to an important storage fuel.
Lactic acid is produced when glucose is metabolized through the energy production cycle.
When excessive levels accumulate, you experience sore muscles. A healthy liver will extract lactic acid from the bloodstream and convert it into the reserve endurance fuel, glycogen."
Alka Seltzer Gold...we're back to that...hey, where's Troutscout?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by S13:
I have belching for more than a year now. Been treating Bart with rifampin for 3 months. It seems effective, some of my Bart symptoms are improving. The belching however remains.
A reaction to some natural candida treatments leads me to believe i do have candida, and im hoping it also explains the belching.
- There's your clue.
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Do you think belching even after drinking water could be caused by candida?? My dr is also exploring possible parasites.
Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :
Is belching your only GI symptom? Do you have bloating, constipation, pain?
It's nice you have an attentive Dr. willing to explore the issue. I have major GI symptoms, for years I've tried to manage on my own, finally willing to get testing,
and one Dr. suggested I wait on testing until I'm 50! (After all the symptoms and issues I listed.)
Posted by tick battler (Member # 21113) on :
For my family, the belching started after our well water became contaminated with parasites such as giardia, blastocystis, entamoeba histolitica, d. fragilis, worms, etc...
This is a common symptom of those parasites. It did not happen when we had lyme. The shortness of breath someone mentioned above also is more common with parasites (e.g., babesia is a blood parasite which also causes this symptom).
The parasite stool testing is notoriously unreliable. The best type of testing would be EDS testing (for example someone experienced with a biomeridian machine or a similar brand) or muscle testing. There is one parasitologist in NYC who was able to detect giardia in a couple of us after we had negative stool tests. He uses a special method of analysis right in his office which is much more accurate than stool testing. But still not nearly as accurate as the energetic testing.
tickbattler
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
surprise...belching is my MAIN gi symptom. I do have mild nausea on and off, and occasional loose bowels. I also feel as though I am a bit more bloated after eating, or fill up quickly. I hadn't considered parasites until my new doctor brought it up.
tick battler...I just responded to you through a new private message.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Parasites and candida often go hand in hand. So if you do treat, you may as well treat both.
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Lymetoo...sounds good. Could parasites and candida be causing belching that occurs from eating or drinking anything?? Lime almost instantly after? And on an empty stomach? My new doctor said it can be the reaction of the parasites creating gas...
Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :
Yep, parasites and candida go hand and hand. STILL working on it.
And the GI docs won't touch those issues with a 10 foot pole. (the insurance kind of docs)
I don't have belching, or heartburn.
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
hi tick battler...I just sent you another private message Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
Hiatial hernia, anxiety, drinking thru straws, drinking too many carbonated beverages, anything that is fermenting sugars to lactic acid in the gut...the list goes on and on.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by dmarie725: Lymetoo...sounds good. Could parasites and candida be causing belching that occurs from eating or drinking anything?? Lime almost instantly after? And on an empty stomach? My new doctor said it can be the reaction of the parasites creating gas...
- Candida creates gas too... sooooo...
And surprise is right about GI doctors. They will NOT "go there."
Posted by S13 (Member # 42830) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo:
quote:Originally posted by S13:
I have belching for more than a year now. Been treating Bart with rifampin for 3 months. It seems effective, some of my Bart symptoms are improving. The belching however remains.
A reaction to some natural candida treatments leads me to believe i do have candida, and im hoping it also explains the belching.
- There's your clue.
Based on that clue i started diflucan yesterday. Im getting really hot and sweaty now out of nowhere (i normally always feel very cold). Also more nervous and toxic feeling like muscles, pounding hart, dizziness.
The belching is also still there, hope to see it go while on diflucan. Time will tell. And yes, i also have belching when just drinking water.
Posted by dmarie725 (Member # 43094) on :
Trust me, anxiety, hernia, carbonated beverages and straws are not the cause...
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
S13 .. Which antibiotics are you also taking? Zithromax and Biaxin can interact with the Diflucan.
Im now on mino and rifampin only. Sadly rifampin lowers diflucan levels, and places even more burden on the liver... Hope it all holds.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
If you destroy the good guys, the yeast (also in the bowel) will have a hey-day.
Probiotics...LOTS...vary them...every day with dinner is
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