i have been getting a lot of adjustments/chiropractic work in the past week because my back and neck is really messed up from lyme and ankylosing spondylitis. i have never had work done before and it seems like it is kicking up some stuff! im having quite a bit of pain after my adjustments and i also just feel sick and toxic. is this normal??
Posted by dal123 (Member # 6313) on :
yes, the adjustments released stored toxins, Be careful with those adjustments, acupuncture may be a better way to go until you are less toxic.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I can no longer tolerate chiropractic adjustments. They usually put me into more pain.
Acupuncture in the right office can be incredible!
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
I'd find an osteopathic doctor. Much gentler than a chiropractor.
I remember reading that you shouldn't be cracked or jerked if you have Lyme. It can mess you up.
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
Drink fresh-squeezed lemon in water, or take a large dose of Vitamin C to help detox from chiropractic adjustments.
Take a dose of Vitamin C (at least 500mg) about 20-30 minutes prior to getting an adjustment to reduce the severity of the detoxing symptoms after the adjustment.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
For me, it's not about the toxins.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
There are varying degrees of chiropractic force - light, medium and heavy. Perhaps you need someone with a lighter touch? Or someone who does less adjusting and lets you ease into it more.
After 30 years now, I know my body and what it can handle and not handle, chirowise.
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
I have nerve pain associated with Lyme. I don't think I could tolerate any chiropractor.
My osteopath just gently presses. I barely feel what he's doing. That's the only adjustment I can tolerate. A massage is too rough for me even if it's gentle.
Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :
All good suggestions. If you choose to continue with chiropractic treatment look into non-force gentle chiropractic. I don't think aggressive adjustments or neck cracking is good for anyone.
My chiropractor uses an implement called The Activator and I'm quite pleasantly surprised in how much it has my spine.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- See the BODY WORK section here. About 3/4 of the way into the thread.
Sadly, many with lyme find out the hard way (as I did, too) that the neck or spine should NEVER, EVER be suddenly twisted. Hope you can find someone who understands what happens to nerve fiber with lyme and how to tenderly treat it.
You should feel better in a couple weeks (it usually took that long for me before I knew who to stay away from) but do take it easy and nurture yourself. Magnesium should help and rest. The nerve fibers must be treated very gently.
When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Be aware that integrative doctors can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first. Some have learned on their own from experts in the field. There are many ways to acquire knowledge and most are eager to share basic details about their training. You want someone with a deep knowledge.
Some of the specialities above may not actually treat lyme yet, for things such as physical adjustments, it is just good that they are also LL, at least to some degree (to know never to suddenly twist the neck or spine).
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,
BIOPHOTON - BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and
RIFE links.
Links for NEW BOOKS & ARTICLES as they come out. -
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Judie: A massage is too rough for me even if it's gentle.
- Same here.
The "acitvator" is no better in my case. I've been to many chiros .. same basic result.
I found one recently who does very gentle massage on me and acupuncture. No adjustments.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Another good tool is an arthrostim - look at KST - Koren Specific Technique - this little tool rat-a-tats at 12 times/sec and can move bones back gently into place. The KST folks would be able to recommend practitioners in the area.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
I have had great luck with chiropractic work. Mine uses a proadjuster that is computerized and I don't let her do manual manipulations.
I used to get a big toxin release after each one, but now that has lessened.
Energy healing work has also helped me a lot.
Everyone is different, though. Acupuncture helped Lymetoo, but not me at all.
Also, for a long time I could not get a massage as the toxin release was way too massive.