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Posted by MannaMe (Member # 33330) on :
 
What would you say causes an increase in pain levels?

Before Lyme and Babesia treatment my hubby had no pain / aching muscles. With starting treatment the pain started. It has slowly been increasing until now its usually a 6 or 7 out of 10.

The main areas of pain are his neck, back, arms and legs.
 
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
The lymph system backs up and the nodes are the sewers and they swell and they put pressure all over the body
There are 600 nodes all over our body
The neck is the P Trap area of the lymph system.

If he gets detoxing on the lower end of the gut and liver and kidneys and skin etc and then start supporting the lymph system too they should drain and clear and the pain should go away.

This worked for me and took me years to figure out really.

As he treats it is adding to the toxin load and as they swell they put pressure on the nerves and ligaments etc causing the pain.

If you do some research this is a misses system as it is 3/4 of the fluid flow and 1/4 only is blood. The way out for toxins is lymphs but it has to go through the pipes and filters lower down so that is why you have to open and get the pipes draining and flowing and then push the baked up sewage out once its open and then as you treat you continue to support this that you got moving and the treatment will go much easier.

This has been a huge revelation of me and changed my body and life and ability to treat this disease with the least amount of suffering.

Hope this helps some
 
Posted by CD57 (Member # 11749) on :
 
This is a great email springshowers. THE LLMDS should know this stuff.

What is your favorite method of detoxing lymph?
 
Posted by Dogsandcats (Member # 28544) on :
 
My Lyme bug hit my joints and lived my bladder. Most days I felt like I had been hit by a few busses. The fatigue was terrible...

Back to the pain....I found comfort with dry brushing and Epsom salt baths.

Some people here see pain doctors for meds and some use herbs and natural treatments. It is a personal preference.

Hope your hubby feels better soon.
 
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
Cd57.

My favorite lymph detox is a combo of getting my liver and bike cleansing in surges with coffee enemas and drinking tons Of water.
Then adding dry body scrubs and rebounding and though ultimate and my favorite is cold laser and vibration with a vibrational massager with a end you can follow the lymphs after laser and push along nodes and break them
Up and give them a push. Its kinda a combo vibration with following along with your finger to feel and know where the pushes are needed

I eoukdbt add the manual pushes without being sure your pathways are open or your just recirculate toxins and can push them to heart and it's not good.

So opening your bottom pipes first is huge important a before a big lymph push.

.I then do more water and more enemas and more baths and such after the lymph push too to ensure it really has its way out. Then 6 to 8 hours again a lower push.


It's that important.

You end up finding your cycle and a system to open and then push and then support flow.

Then do rounds like that.

You can do self massage etc but I like the process o do and Learned it from a doctor when I used to get it profrssionally done.
 
Posted by springshowers (Member # 19863) on :
 
Lots of Water water water water is needed for the above sequence. Before during and after.
Sipping hot tea during enemas even helps lots of intake of fluid or it won't work.

Lymphs get thick like a cyst pimple.
I uses to get milia skin cysts. It's what happens in lymph
And can that thick and stuck.

You really need fluids to get fluid and to be able to purge yourself too.

Its a a lot if work and a process but if you keep up in it you can change your body drastically in so many ways.

Pain is a big one.
Besides so many other symptoms.
Our symptoms are from toxins.
Chain reaction from lymphs to nerves to
Cells to inflammation of tissues too and
It all pushes against things it shouldn't

Inflames buldges pushes
Seeps into blood
Backs up to ?? Lymphs.
This cleanses blood too which we need oxygenated and
Cleansing too and moving.so toxins don't settle In fats too and everywhere like sewer sludge.
Sounds gross. But.

We get sick and it all slows down more and its a cycle
Only we can break.

It's not easy.
For us who were sick many years it's an undoing process
Way after the bugs are killed there is much work to do to
Clear ourselves still.

If your newly diagnosed don't skip detoxing.
Don't take it for granted.
Treating only adds to your already loaded system
If out systems were working properly to start I doubt we would have ended up with this disease.
Esp those of us who have it chronically or longer or took long time to diagnose.


Just my experience
I realize everyone is different.
But many of us are the same in this disease which
The bugs are creating toxins. As we kill them more toxins.

I agree more doctors should explain how this all works and help us. There are some out there though. Just splattered around here and there.
 


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