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Posted by behealthyagain (Member # 31816) on :
 
Hi,
Sometimes I unknowingly get a bit of gluten or something that I didn't know I was sensitive to and don't discover it until a night of pain and inflamation.

Am still dealing with it from last night. What do we do when this happens - can we take ibuprophen to help? Is it something we just have to wait to leave our body through our usual detox?

I will ask my LLMD next visit but am wondering if anyone has a tip.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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No, ibuprofen is not a good idea. It causes blood vessel constriction and can stress the kidneys.

You can't "detox" gluten reactions (it's not the toxicity that gets you if celiac is involved, it works differently than that - it causes reaction in the cells in other ways -- although modern wheat is not so pure, really) but you can help turn them around with very good food now - and whatever support you find helpful.

I did read about one particular supplement that may help but I forget what that is. I'll look at my files and come back with that. Hopefully, someone else will know, too.

In the meantime, go to the best celiac web sites and ask there, too.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Here's a start:

www.celiac.com/articles/21634/1/When-Mistakes-Happen-Focus-on-Comfort-How-Celiacs-can-More-Quickly-Recover-from-Gluten-Exposure/Page1.html

When Mistakes Happen, Focus on Comfort (How Celiacs can More Quickly Recover from Gluten Exposure)
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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The author above mentions:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=031228;p=0

STINGING NETTLE LEAF (not root) - Links set
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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that article from Celiac.com, they mention L-Glutamine. For those without lyme, that may be find and even for those with lyme, if they have a severe GI reaction, it can help that.

Generally, though, for those with lyme, L-Glutamine can be a very rough thing to take as it's very excitatory. See link below for detail.

If your gut requires it, take only very small amounts and also with other gut soothers such as Slippery Elm Bark and Marshmallow root powder - and DGL.

If your reactions are more neurological (some with celiac or GS don't even get gut reactions) . . . take some organic extra virgin coconut oil every 8 hours. Fish oil, too, is helpful for the neuro part of this.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/113775?#000000

Topic: Amino Acid Information Link

See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Scroll about half way down (and later go back and read all the other stuff):

See the "HIDDEN GLUTEN" links here . . . they should help to avoid future mishaps. It can take up to six months for the brain (and nerve cells in the gut, too) to "get over" a gluten mistake for someone with celiac . . . so be sure your neuro support (good fats, Gotu Kola) & all areas of support for gut stay on board.

Activated Charcoal can help the gut, too.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all);

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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There is still one particular supplement that I've read of for "emergency" gluten "turn-a-rounds"

I hope maybe someone else has found that. I'm out of steam but will try to look more later for that.
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Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/Coping_with_Celiac_Disease/tp/Glutening-Recovery.htm
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Catgirl,

Thanks so much for that very recent article. I had no idea about MUSHROOMS being grown on gluten containing grains. Oh, my!
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
behealthy.... Walgreen's has a supplement for that .. but I have no idea if it helps any.

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/enzymatic-therapy-gluten-defense%2c-ultracaps/ID=prod6152320-product
 
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
 
This won't help after the fact, but I do this:

I take similase GFCF (gluten free, casein free) with my meals where I don't take probiotics (it'll eat the probiotics). This takes care of any hidden stuff.

I mainly take it because if I don't, I look pregnant by the end of the day.
 
Posted by beaches (Member # 38251) on :
 
Hi Keebler! <3 So good to see you again!

I've never heard of anything that will turn around mistakenly ingested gluten. Will have to check out Judie's post re: GFCF.

Ibuprofen is NOT the answer!! All that will do is put more strain on your kidneys!!

I have a gluten intolerance but am able to digest gluten in VERY small amounts.

I have a GF household. Kids stick exclusively to the GF diet and state that it helps them. When hubs and I get the rare opportunity to go out to a restaurant ourselves, we both will indulge in a very little bit of bread, but pretty much stick to GF diet even when dining out.

I SO SO SO love bread, having grown up on the best of it. So eliminating good bread has been especially difficult for me.

Going GF would have been a whole lot easier if I could have at least had my Italian Bread on weekends...

But we do what we have to do [Smile]
 
Posted by iwouldratherbeatdisney (Member # 20602) on :
 
I always have activated charcoal on hand when I accidentally get glutened. it is also good to keep on hand per my LLMD for detoxing from the lyme
 
Posted by iwouldratherbeatdisney (Member # 20602) on :
 
Forgot to add I was dx with Celiac's this Feb and we were gluten free before hand due to my LLMD saying we should cut out as much as possible. I never feel sickly full on the gf diet like I did when we ate gluten.
 
Posted by jennyfromtheblock (Member # 43805) on :
 
I have celiacs as well. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do except ride it out. Hydrate, hydrate and rest

There is a enzyme you can take along with your meals, called symilase. Not sure it works. I can't imagine taking it at every meal like it says, but I take it when I think I may have ingested something.

The inflammation will stay with you for a while. My lyme was definitely aggrevated with a glutening episode.
 


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