I'm not tolerating A-fng very well...even at one drop I have increased dizziness, and profound tiredness/fatigue. I also feel very out of it and depressed. Any advice on the best way to deal with the herxing? Have other a-fng users had these symptoms?
Posted by Jamers (Member # 28016) on :
Any a-fng users in the house?
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
Jamers- Sorry I didn't respond sooner! I saw your post and meant to read it, then forgot! Oops!
I tested way way way over the upper range on two of the three groups of mycotoxins on the Real Time myco urine test.
My doc prescribed Sporonox. And clearly stated, "If you only have time or energy to take either the sporonox or the binders, always always choose the binders. The binders are more important than the killing".
He said mycotoxins are produced when fungus lives, but also a heck of a lot of mycotoxins are released when killing fungus too!
They have an affiliation for lipids! So they will reaccumulate in fatty type tissue-CNS, brain, etc.
Killing only releases the mycotoxins, and the body promptly reabsorbs them, making things worse than before.
Binders my doc recommended: Chlorella and activated charcoal and diecetomous earth.
I was instructed to take 3 grams of activated charcoal tablets, 6 grams of chlorella and 1 teaspoon of diecetomous earth together, twice daily. (I started at half the dose for all of the above for a week).
And to space the binders three or more hours away from other meds and supplements.
I was also instructed to take oral glutathione twice daily on an empty stomach.
BUT cautioned glutathione liberates mycotoxins from cells, so binders must be taken.
I hope you are taking some binders?
There is a list of effective binders for the type of mold you are fighting on The Better Health Guy website. It is a Mycotoxin special article.
I would get on binders ASAP if you aren't already.
Otherwise, the A-FNG is just killing and the mycotoxins are recirculating and depositing.
Also, with other Byron Whites, I had to start really low with some of them. I did one drop in a glass of water. Mixed well, and drank half the glass one day, and the other half of the glass two days later. I worked up from there.
Good luck! Mycotoxins make one feel like hell! I hope your more worrisome symptoms go away soon.
Greta
Posted by Jamers (Member # 28016) on :
Greta, Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate your detailed information. I tried a-fng for treating candida, but really have no idea what type of mycotoxins I may have. I am "self treating" so I did not have the excellent information you provided. I feel its a real issue for me considering the profound fatigue I have when taking it. I will definitely start taking some binders, as I was not before! Thank you! Jamie
Posted by Jamers (Member # 28016) on :
One more thing.... can you recommend any brands for the chlorella, charcoal or oral glutathione?
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
Not sure.
I try to buy chlorella that is made in north America. Broken Cell chlorella is best absorbed. Lots is from Japan, and since the nuclear leaking...I wonder the safety of the chlorella from there.
I've tried powdered chlorella from New Roots. It is a texture thing. It doesn't dissolve in water too good.
Biopure makes great chlorella tablets. A friend gave me some. They are easy to take. But the price is high for them.
The only activated charcoal capsules I can find are Swiss. 8.99 for a bottle.
Diecetomous earth, make sure it is food grade from a reputable supplier.
It is hard to take also. Make sure you don't breathe the DE dust in when you mix it with water or juice.
Chlorella and DE in a whey protein smoothie with ice is the most palatable. But don't make a big one...
Whey protein helps produce glutathione.
I use Readisorb oral glutathiione on an empty stomach. About half hour before meals.
Hope this helps
Posted by Jamers (Member # 28016) on :
That helped greatly! Thanks so much! I think fungus is a real issue for me. A-fng gives me bilateral joint pain, muscle pain, blurred vision, inner ear issues and fatigue so far. I wonder if its hitting anything else or if it's all fungus related.
Posted by lookup (Member # 44574) on :
I've got to run, and the dr may already have you
on this type of regimen for BWF, but whenever
using Byron White
the main formula should be accompanied by
a detox-er (there are several kinds)
so that the pathways are open for what A-Fng (or
whatever one uses)moves.
An example would be:
Morning- Detox 2, chased by 2 cups of water
Away from food- A-Fng
At 4 if needed maybe BT-Detox
Ditto to GretaM.
That is what I understand about Byron White
Formulas. You can even start doing the detox ones
ones before the formula to prepare for the main
formula a week a head of time.
If one drop is too much then one can
put one drop in a tsp of water and only take a
half teaspoon.
I never heard of taking less than one drop. But,
that is how they do it.
There are also supportive Byron White Formulas
that fit each case. The program was set up to
have a detox-er, the main formula and a support
formula.
Maybe you are already doing that--if so then
maybe the info will help others to understand the
proper way Dr. White meant his formulas to be
used.
Posted by lookup (Member # 44574) on :
Ask your doc about NT-Detox, A-Inflam, BT-Detox,
Detox 1, Detox 2 or
if they do muscle testing - see which one fits best.
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
Lookup-i really value your posts on here.
The info above about using a detox formula is awesome!
I didn't realize that about the BW formulas.
Thanks for the great info.
Greta
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
Biopure chlorella is very good. HealthForce Nutritionals chlorella is excellent, and a bit more affordable too.
Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
I always take BW's with NT Detox and Detox 2.
A-FNG is one of the toughest for me due to systemic yeast and indoor mold exposure. Take it very slow...It does work!
Posted by lookup (Member # 44574) on :
GretaM, hehe - I'm always taking down notes on
the things you share
BWF- one could even take a 1/4 of a drop. One drop
in a tsp of water. Take 1/4 tsp of that and put
in an ounce of water. Hold that ounce in the
mouth for 30 seconds to a minute. Or however one
wants to do it. You could also put one drop in an
ounce of water and take a tsp-- that would be a
third of a drop.
Posted by triathlongal (Member # 31684) on :
Dr. H. would have me put one drop in 8 oz of water and drink 1/3 of it, cover it and put it in the fridge. If no herx then drink the other 2/3 the following day. He stresses the importance of putting any of the bw drops in 8 oz. of water.
Posted by lookup (Member # 44574) on :
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