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Posted by DaveinCt (Member # 5818) on :
Started a supplement yesterday with Silexan (lavender oil) to calm anxiety. Today I've had a very strong herx/flare!

I'm reading that lavender oil does have antimicrobial and antifungal properties.

Wondering if anyone else has experienced a flare with it?

This ones been nasty!

Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Dave, certainly it may happen. Lavender can kill too. In what form did you take it? I hope it is not essential oil INGESTED?!? Waaaay too strong.

But as with all plants that have hundreds of phytochemicals, lavender will also help cleansing...

IN the past (about 10 years ago), there was a lady here in lymenet called Farah, who could do loads just with essential oils, that she rubbed all over.

I still use essential oils this way, rubbed, and I do know that for colds, Olbas oil (a mix of peppermint and other oils) will be very strong and do help with cold symptoms.

I wonder if anything can survive Olbas, through direct contact, I mean. It is pretty strong. Same as oregano, I am sure it can burn the skin of sensitive people!!! These plants can be amazing!!!
Posted by LisaK (Member # 41384) on :
I love Olbas!!!

I thought men should stay away from lavender??????
Posted by DaveinCt (Member # 5818) on :
Yes, the product, Calm-Aid from Natures Way contains 80mg. of Lavender oil called Silexan and is taken orally.

Some people (and studies confirm) that it is efficacious for of my main symptoms.

But, boy, it or something else gave me one heck of a flare yesterday. Think I'll stick with aroma therapy for essential oils...

Lisa, why should men stay away from Lavender?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I guess, instructions are for normal people, Dave! We never go on that category, normal usage for normal people. If you are flaring, you can't feel relaxed, right?

I would just rub it on. I had great experiences with rubbed oils. I still use them like that, on and off. I can mix them with some carrier oil, if I feel like, or rub them direct. You will get the aromatherapy effect.

Another great 'secret' treatment I just discovered with aromatherapy. It is AMAZING. The product is called Synapse or something like that: a mix of essential oils for sniffing.

But you use that in a specific way: you go back to a traumatic event, start feeling the pain, and then, inhale the thing very deeply, till your brain feels full.

You won't believe what this thing can do. It is almost magic. I learned that with my lyme doc...

Anyway, rubbed oils do work and do reach better some parts of the body, much better than ingested plants or supplements, many times. If you just rub a carrier oil ALONE, will already cause you some relaxing effect (like on abdomen, under the arm, inside of any joint, groin, buttocks: lymph areas).

Also on the face, under the neck and around it, and on shoulder. The feeling on soles is also very good. Any carrier oil, when rubbed, will cause you a relaxing feeling (if the oil is pure, organic, of course). I do feel it helps grabbing some toxins through the lymph.

if you add any essential oil to it, you can enhance the treatment effect.
And Lisa, great you know Olbas. It is one of my favorites, for colds and for tick bites!! Nothing survives on Olbas, I find!!!!
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Taken orally inside a gel or capsule for protection of esophagus, ANY essential oil can certainly bring a strong reaction to the body, I have found. Sometimes, cutting back the dose can help.

As for in the air, just wondering:

Do you have MCS? If so, it may be the classic "clobber" just from the lavender for those with MCS.

I can do lemon and other citrus but any flower scent is too much and lavender can have particular strong clobber for many with MCS.

It may have to do with the liver being unable to process it, even as fumes but especially if taken in a capsule or tea (there is a delicious lavender tea, actually).

I have to avoid anything with even a hint of lavender.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Lavender messes with men's hormones, Dave.

Many of us (Lymies) are unable to do lavender. Be careful.
Posted by LisaK (Member # 41384) on :
yes, hormones. lavender is not recommended to be used to use in laundry for growing boys or men that wish to have kids. I read that somewhere, so you can google to get more info I suppose.

I love lavender, but it's funny when I open my esential oil bottle my dog backs up in a hastened fright!
Posted by LisaK (Member # 41384) on :
I just met an essential oil specialist! and she assured me that lavender oil- PURE lavender from a trustworthy source does not cause any hormonal disruptions.

so that is good to know!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I still wouldn't suggest ingesting it. Many are sensitive to it.
Posted by lymenotlite (Member # 33166) on :
I searched a bit on the internet and found a document that says the thyme essential oil has properties for combating babesia. Yesterday and today I put a drop of it on the bottoms of my feet and herxed every time.
Posted by shoeless joe (Member # 45835) on :
have you tried 5 http or L-theanine to calm anxiety?

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