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Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
Need very specific protocol if people still believe in this therapy. I have the PE 1 and wife can no longer take antibiotics
 
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
 
Here's some postings on it>

Photon PE-1 Light Therapy for Lyme

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=126843;p=0

Steve
 
Posted by canadianmama (Member # 36298) on :
 
We use our similar device on my son and are still seeing improvement.

Now we mostly treat for viruses and a reinfection of bartonella.

Do you have nosodes or a frequency generator?
 
Posted by jcarlnew (Member # 45378) on :
 
I do not have nosodes but I have the complete PE-1 with accessories
 
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
 
This type of treatment is very individual based on the energetic testing. I wouldn't know how to do it without that. And you need nosodes for sure.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jcarlnew:
I do not have nosodes but I have the complete PE-1 with accessories

You will need nosodes. The nosodes are what directs the immune system to go after the Lyme. Otherwise the energy of the light has no task in the body.

I'm still well from Lyme and haven't had to take or do anything for it in many years so I know this treatment works. There are a lot of other things to do, this treatment is specifically for borrelia. You still have to deal with the secondary issues (leaky gut, toxins, metals, parasites, mineral deficiencies, etc.).
 
Posted by SLML (Member # 42986) on :
 
Where do you get nosodes and what nosodes do you need for the pe-1? Thanks
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I used Deseret Biologicals for borrelia. I just kept Googling until I found a place that sold them to patients rather than doctors. If you have a naturopathic doctor, he can order them for you.
 
Posted by SLML (Member # 42986) on :
 
Thanks SixGoofyKids :-)

Do you feel the treatments with Deseret Biologicals and the PE-1 were as effective as treatments in Germany with Dr. W (from past posts I have gathered you went there for treatment)??

Also - where do you get the instructions for what area to put the light on and how close the light device is to the body??
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
¨Sixgkids doesn't have the PE1. I never did the Bionic either.

I guess, if you had the money, I would go to dr. W and try directly with him. If not, quite a few people got rid of lyme only with the PE1 too.

There was the lady from lumenenergetics, then bob from maryland, at least, that I remember.

The quality of nosodes is very important. If they aren't good, the treatment does not work well, I'm pretty sure. What heals is the nosode, not the light (the light is only the messenger, helping to transport the nosode information).
 
Posted by SLML (Member # 42986) on :
 
Brussels - did you use a light device?

I would love to try Dr. W but just buying the device and the nosodes is more affordable to me right now.

Brussels - if you used a light device do you know where I can find instructions of how to treat lyme with nosodes and biophotons?
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLML:
Thanks SixGoofyKids :-)

Do you feel the treatments with Deseret Biologicals and the PE-1 were as effective as treatments in Germany with Dr. W (from past posts I have gathered you went there for treatment)??

Also - where do you get the instructions for what area to put the light on and how close the light device is to the body??

I used the Bionic 880 and went to Dr. W. I think you get a stronger treatment with Dr. W than you can do on your own. I haven't found really good nosodes here in the US, I got mine while I was in Germany.

I learned to use the light/nosodes from Dr. W. Brussels and I posted directions on how to do the treatment in threads here.

Eventually you do treat with blood, so everyone's treatment becomes the same, but it's definitely faster if you go to Germany. I guess it comes down to which do you have more of, time or money. [Smile]
 
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
Sixgoofykids, finding the thread you posted protocol on would be helpful.
 
Posted by SLML (Member # 42986) on :
 
I have LOTS of time as I can't work due to boughts of fatigue that will take me down for a week every so often as well as my days are mostly marked by low energy (yet no naps!). Money - don't have like I have time!

SixGoofy - How much is it to see Dr. W these days? What is more powerful about his in person treatments that doing it at home?

Has anyone at home healed on their own without going to a specialist? Brussels - it sounds like the two people you mentioned - healed with just the PE-1 on their own. Or am I misreading?

Thanks!!
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I don't know what he charges, I went in 2008. He uses more powerful nosodes that aren't available outside of doctor's offices in Germany and aren't available outside of laboratories here in the US. It's like kickstarting treatment.

It would take some searching to find the thread, JCarlhelp. There were two long threads on the Bionic and PE1 where the protocols were described in detail.
 
Posted by jcarlnew (Member # 45378) on :
 
I am an Evernote hoarder. Here is what I have

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/112516#000000

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/112516#000000
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
That's it!
 
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
 
I went to Dr. W. in 2011. I stayed for 5 weeks and did photon and ozone treatments with him.
The cost was about 3000 Eur.
I can't say that he used more powerful nosodes on me, as he only used D dilutions for Borrelia.

I continued to treat with PE1 and higher C dilutions after I came back. I got my nosodes at Hildegard pharmacy in Belgium. They ship overseas.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Anuta, didn't he use those extra two vials with you that didn't come with your nosodes from the pharmacy? When I went, he used the two extra vials. Those are the ones he told me were stronger. I asked if I could bring them home and he said they couldn't leave his office and that in the US they were illegal outside of specialty labs.
 
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
 
No Six, the only vials he used for Borrelia was the Stauphen pharma Borrelia D-dilutions and my blood vial.

He did however use the unnamed Babesia vial on me later on.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
Anuta, maybe it was because he was using blood with you. He didn't let me use blood until I had treated Lyme for quite some time.
 


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