Hi guys, does anyone know if anaplasma or ehrlichia can cause muscle twitches or sleep disturbances?
I had pretty high IGG titers [160] for both of these infections on Igenex, and these are actually my main 2 symptoms. I have none of the classic bartonella or lyme symptoms at all, but do have bartonella IGG titers at 256, so maybe I have that as well, not sure.
I'm going to talk to my LLMD about adjusting my treatment protocol to include Doxy/Bactrim/Zith/Mepron...that should take care of anaplasma/ehrlichia [and maybe bart?] if I have it, right?
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Others may answer you re anaplasma/ehrlichia, but I think these symptoms sound like Lyme. A, it depletes us of magnesium so we get muscle twitching, and B, our sleep cycle gets thrown off when Lyme hits the HPA axis - hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenals.
In other words, these two symptoms are classic Lyme symptoms. We'll see what others have to say.
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Lyme causes muscle twitches and sleep disturbances. These are classic lyme symptoms. You will find both of them in the list of lyme symptoms on pages 9-10 of Burrascano:
"Insomnia, fractionated sleep, early awakening"
My lyme doctor told me that lyme affects the sleep center of the brain. When he gave me GOOD lyme treatment, this symptom went away within 2 months. (Then he moved on to treating my bart and then babs.)
When I had lousy lyme treatment (for 2 years prior), the symptom did not go away.
"Twitching of the face or other muscles"
"6. MAGNESIUM (required) Magnesium supplementation is very helpful for the tremors, twitches, cramps, muscle soreness, heart skips and weakness." (page 28 of Burrascano)
On page 27 Burrascano lists the symptoms of anaplasma/ehrlichia. He doesn't list these 2 symptoms there.
Pages 26-27 are a good summary of the symptoms of lyme and each of its coinfections.
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
TF, is the twitching because of the magnesium or because of the infection? I took tons of magnesium at one point and still had twitches and shakes.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- "tons of magnesium" can be very hard, eve damaging for the kidneys. so be careful to stay under 2,000 mg for the day - but it must be in divided doses, at least 3 x a day. And some kinds work better than others.
Best to have an intracellular RBC test to see what kind of dosing is best.
Still, magnesium, alone can't address all the issues if lyme is not being adequately treated. And, it can take a long time to work up to the dose and set the body right again after being deficient.
Liver support is also vital to lower to total toxic load.
Certain foods and even some supplements can be too excitatory to that is also to consider as is adrenal support. -
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
My understanding is that lyme disease often causes a magnesium deficiency. You have to get the $300 blood test to find out if you are actually deficient. The regular mag test is no good.
So, instead of that, you just take a good magnesium supplement. Burrascano recommends Mag-TabSR by Niche.
Most magnesium supplements on store shelves are totally useless. They cannot be absorbed. So, you have to buy one of the few types that really work. I know Mag-Tab works.
I order it on line.
So, I don't know if the mag will work if you are not also treating lyme. If the lyme depletes the mag, can you ever get your mag level up to normal without attacking the lyme? I don't know.
Everyone I know is treating lyme and also taking a good magnesium. They see results in a week of taking the mag that Burrascano recommends in the dosages he recommends. It truly is amazing how well it works.
I just did a little search and found this website about the relationship of lyme and mag deficiency:
And, here's a quote from the book "The Lyme Disease Solution":
"The usual serum magnesium level is of little value because the vast majority of magnesium is inside of cells. Better tests would be red blood cell magnesium or ionized magnesium and these are the ones you should request." (p. 121)
"Both lyme and bartonella significantly deplete the body's supply of magnesium." (p. 266)
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