Today my Dr. is testing me to see if He could get me on IVIG. I have been through five years of antibiotics... one year of that being I.V. Rocephin.
I don't think he knows what to do with me anymore and my symptoms are quite neurological. He wants to see if he could get me to do this therapy, but it looks scary.
Have people had side effects?
Does it help?
I don't currently have insurance, what kind would you get?
ANY INFO... is highly appreciated THANKS!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
We have a few members here who are on it. I know it's extremely expensive.
How do you plan to pay for this? Unless you are very wealthy, the fact that you have no insurance seems like a deal breaker to me.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Poppy, I certainly am not wealthy, I would get insurance of course...
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
Thanks for that link Steve... that helps a lot. Still sounds scary to me and I still wonder how helpful it is?
Posted by t9im (Member # 25489) on :
HI Foxy:
Our daughter was on it for 21 months, every 4 to 5 weeks. Helped with anxiety and auto immune issue but as far as Lyme and co infections she still struggles.
I wouldn't rule it out but the headache and fatigue this caused was not pleasant.
Tim
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Thanks a lot Tim! My issues are largely anxiety and autoimmune. So the headache and fatigue were permanent or only while she was going through this?
would she do it again, or does she wish she wouldn't have done it?
I would got through a lot to relieve my head symptoms...
Posted by Pocono Lyme (Member # 5939) on :
IVIG took care of my peripheral neuropathy. I could always tell when I was in need of another infusion about a week prior as I would be "washed out".
After each infusion, I'd feel dizzy for about an hour and tired out for about three days. I really didn't feel any other improvements.
My total IgG was very low as well as subclasses 1 through 4. It took nearly four years to hit low normal total IgG.
I switched to subQ at home weekly and have done much better. No more wash out period, more energy. Treating adrenal fatigue and thyroid also helped tremendously with fatigue.
It's also cheaper. I've had many head symptoms. Still working on them. I don't know what yours are.
One I had was "spaciness". That cleared with thyroid med. despite "normal" labs. One I still deal with is pressure. I'm currently on IV ABX as FINALLY an ENT (my sixth or seventh) did cultures of my sinuses and found 3 different opportunistic organisms. Two bacterial and one fungal.
Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :
Foxy - you don't have insurance?
Can't you get "Obamacare"?
IVIG (Gamma replacement) is very expensive. One gram is about $150. Doses generally start around 20 grams/month. Some people need more than that. Much more. Without insurance - they cannot afford it.
The supplies and nursing can be expensive also.
If you could afford the medicine - there is a much more affordable way to administer the drug. I do it SubQ - by myself - at home - no pump - just a butterfly needle and a syringe.
Doing it myself - and using minimal supplies - much more affordable.
The "push" method costs about $50/month in supplies - if that.
As opposed to the usual SubQ supplies - which is pump/rental - large syringes - lots and lots of tubing.
Of course IVIG (IV with a nurse - at home - or a clinic) is much more expensive.
FWIW if you have an Immune Deficiency (do you?) and you have insurance (other than Medicare)and they deny coverage - Gamunex/Grifols has (at least they did in the past) a program where they supply the meds/supplies at no charge. With a doctor's Rx of course.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Pocono Lyme:
One I had was "spaciness". That cleared with thyroid med. despite "normal" labs.
- Very important point.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Thanks A lot Susank! So do you feel this has helped you a lot? I just can't decide if the benefits outweigh the risks and costs!
I am sure I could get "ObamaCare," If they take on sickies like me! No I don't have insurance. I was young and healthy and paid my bills fine by working hard etc.
I am getting more and more the feeling like SubQ must be the way to go. Sounds cheaper and less scary... but is it as effective as I.V.???
I don't think I have thyroid issues, as I don't really struggle with fatigue much. Sleepiness and weird, weird head YES!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
foxy .. maybe look into histamine intolerance .. it can give you a weird head and sleepiness
Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :
Overall - I say yes - Gamma has helped me.
It's kinda a doubled-edged sword.
It helps in lots of ways - but there are some side effects.
Much less doing it SubQ.
Some folks have no side effects.
You obviously need a good diagnosis to get insurance to cover it.
I'd say - try to get it - give it a try.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Thanks Lymetoo, I think my dr. didn't think I had that because, I have no itching, or rashes or allergies of any kind? I assume that is what histamine intolerance is? I will check into it though!
SusanK, I assume, since you are starting hyperbarics and from your tone that subQ wasn't your "ace in the hole?"
How long did you do this and your "side effects" weren't permanent were they?
Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :
I do Gamma replacement because I have an immune deficiency - CVID. That's what it's for.
Gamma - IVIG - SCIG - whatever - helps some other illnesses as well - as off label.
Yeah - one can get headaches and other side effects from Gamma.
SubQ much less so. Don't think anything permanent.
I will be trying mHBOT to help with my immune deficiency and every other problem I have due to Lyme and Co's.
I have been on Gamma for about five years.
If you can get it - I say try it.
Posted by Pony (Member # 32559) on :
It made me better. If you can get it, absolutely go for it.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
wow, it sounds like people are on this for a looong time? This sounds frustrating to me. Don't people get BETTER on this stuff? Or do you all regress if you stop it?
Thanks SusanK for dropping back in on this thread. Looks like you and I are on the same trail, as I am doing mild hyperbaric too! Posted by cottonbrain (Member # 13769) on :
Just clarifying for people who are unfamiliar with immunoglobulin treatment -- immunoglobulin does not train our immune systems to behave properly -- it simply adds immune globulin from presumably healthy people.
So once you start it, hopefully you can have access to it for as long as you feel it is benefitting you.
I've only done a handful of infusions, and the side effects diminish each time -- still having lots of headache pain though --
if you do not have a Primary Immune Deficiency, you may not be helped by immunoglobulin -- probably not worth the associated risks unless you have PID, in my opinion.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Thanks Cottonbrain and everyone who chimed in here.
Since talking to some others, it sound like subQ has less side effects...and is the way to go.
Cottonbrain, could you even get insurance to cover this without an immune deficiency and doesn't everyone with Lyme have an "immune deficiency?"
For now, I am continuing the mild hyperbaric and going to look into adrenal/ thyroid...before coming back to this.
But, if I am stuck inside a head like this the rest of my life I am willing to risk the IVIG.
Enough people have told me it has helped their autoimmune type symptoms and that has been my primary problem, and antibiotics and herbs/supplements don't help. I have been through it all!!! Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
foxyloxy have you been able to get IVIG started? I was very surprised to get a call recently that IVIG was approved. I started it on Friday.
A nurse came to my home and infused IVIG plasma through my picc line for about 7 hours. I felt okay during the day, other than increase in tinnitus and brain fog. But that night I felt horrible, like I had the flu, but I was doing okay the next morning.
After 2 more days, I am still feeling a bit under the weather (chills, tired, achy...) but no fever and head ache is not severe. I hope this is normal.
My IGG and IGM levels are lower than they should be, but I don't think I have a primary immune deficiency disease. I need to study up on all of this. I don't know the difference between that and CVID.
My insurance co. won't cover IV ABX but they will cover this! I have a copay that won't be cheap but I am perplexed by all of this.
My doctor thinks IVIG will likely help my cranial neuropathy. After reading some of the threads on IVIG, I am kind of nervous about whether it is the right choice for me.
I have profound hearing loss in one ear with vestibular damage and my worst symptoms are cranial neuropathy with all kinds of odd sensations and buzzing in my head. I have facial pain as well. I don't feel like I get sicker than most with viruses.
To those of you who know more about this, can having a chronic illness like Lyme disease cause your IGG and IGM levels to become abnormal? Or is it only autoimmune illnesses that cause this? I think Lyme can cause autoimmune illness, so this is probably not a great way of wording my questions...
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
I SO hope it works for you!!!! Your lucky your insurance will cover it and you can try it!!
I wish so much I could, But I guess my IGG and IGM levels were not QUITE low enough. Its a bummer because they ARE low... just not enough.
So I have been going at the Babesia infection for all I'm worth... It may be helping a bit, but I am not sure!
It's about time you get help for your awful head problems dbpei!!! You've been on lymenet way too long! Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
Thank you so much foxyloxy! I know - I feel so fortunate that my insurance is covering this. I never thought they would.
I just pray it will help. From what I remember reading, it takes a few infusions before you start to notice results. And sometimes when you stop the cycle of infusions, you feel worse .
Funny, I didn't think anybody noticed how long I've been here. Always in the background - in life and Lymenet. Thanks for your kind words. And I hope your intense babesia treatment works its magic for you!
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Oh I remember you all right! You have head problems and I feel SOOO sorry for people with head problems. It's so awful! (no wonder you are always in the background)
For your encouragement, my Dr. calls IVIG his "ace in the hole." He seems to think it really works!
Make sure you give it a good try! Let us know how it goes! Blessings!!! Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I love hearing this, foxy! Let's hope your doc is right. I will try to write with an update in a few months.
Thanks for the encouragement. Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
You poor thing foxy loxy.
I hope you can figure out a way to get IVIG.
First, you HAVE to get insurance.
I know if you have a skin punch biopsy and are diagnosised with small fiber sensory neuropathy( pins and needles, numbness) that would qualify you for IVIG.
I had a fight with my ex primary doc( had him over 20 years) so I quit him.
I got a new primary who listened to my story, and ordered me complete blood work. Within 7 days of meeting this new doc, I had 2 diagnoses.
He sent me to immunologist, who made me do the vaccine challenge to see if my immune system developed antibodies.
I didn't produce any antibodies after a 4 week break between vaccine and new blood work.
I was diagnosed with CVID.
I was approved for insurance covered IVIG for 6 months.
Total time involved was 2 months for insurance protocols.
So weird you posted this today because today was the day they dropped off all my supplies for my 1st infusion tomorrow morning.
Let me tell you, it really sinks in, how things got to this point. Especially when they wheel in pole, computer, box of tubing, port, plasma.
But if your on IV antibiotics, I m pretty sure they can shoot plasma through your port. Your a pro at this.
I have nurse who will come to my house and do everything.
I refused subQ. I have Neuro tremors, twitches, and jerks. I can't hold a cup of coffe, let alone a needle. Plus I have blurry eyes with glasses on.
I share everything with my lymenet friends, so I ll post all my experiences with you warriors.
P.S. And thank you dbpei for sharing your experience. It helped me immensely.
PS.S. And thank you to all the others who posted also.
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I hope that IVIG helps you BB! We are both starting this around the same time so it will be good to have someone to compare notes. I will look forward to hearing about your experience.
Foxy, my IGG and IGM were a little low in the past but are now lower than they were a few years ago (just a little lower) and that is probably why my doc thought it was the right time to try to get coverage.
It is possible that in the near future, things could change and your insurance might cover. I sure hope that will be the case for you. Thanks for all of your kind support.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Never thought about checking again dbpei! Thanks for that info.
Hope you both are helped.. and... Your welcome! Posted by madisongrrl (Member # 48682) on :
A skin biopsy proving small fiber neuropathy is not enough to get insurance to cover IVIG. You need to have a proven autoimmune component to your neuropathy.
Posted by Notti (Member # 43843) on :
Dbpei, the (side) effects of the infusion that you describe are 'normal' with IVIg therapy. Especially the flu-like feeling is very common.
If it is too much to tolerate you can ask the nurse to try to decrease the infusion rate. Usually that helps a lot.
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
Thanks Notti. I didn't start feeling that poorly until hours after my nurse left. She went very slowly throughout the entire day, taking my vitals every so often and only increasing the rate when we both felt my body could handle it.
After about 7 or 8 hours, I was at a higher rate that we both thought I could handle. I felt tired and my tinnitus was really bad toward the end of my infusion. But by bedtime, I was shivering, achy all over and very scared.
That is when I remembered my nurse telling me I could take benadryl and motrin following the infusion if I felt poorly. So that is what I did and it helped me to sleep and get through the night. I woke up feeling better - but just worn out - as though I was getting over the flu.
It seems like I had a delayed reaction. I wonder if it would have helped to take more motrin and benadryl earlier... Or perhaps the last dose was too much too fast.
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
I want to clarify my post.
I thought I was getting IVIG plasma. But I got Gamunex-C. Immunoglobulin. It is a clear liquid.
On the morning of the infusion, I was so sick with sinus infection, face and ear pain, headache. Felt like I got hit by a bus.
I wanted to cancel. But if I canceled every procedure because of how sick I am, I would never get anything done.
So I took packet of alka selzer cold and 1 Claritin. Instant relief.
I hope I didn't ruin the treatment though. I don't know if I did the right thing but had no post treatment adverse reactions.
Dbpei,
Wow, 7 or 8 hours ? How many bottles did you have ?
I had 4 bottles. Treatment lasted 3 hours.
Are we hoping it's our "ace in the hole?" You betcha !
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
BB I don't remember how many bottles were used, but it was 50 grams of IVIG plasma all together that I received, plus a large bag of saline solution to start.
I am glad you decided to stick with things after taking the alka seltzer and claritin and they provided some relief. I think Benadryl is an antihistamine, so perhaps it works in a similar way to Claritin. Who knows, you may be on to something!
Posted by Notti (Member # 43843) on :
A delayed reaction is very common. It can take 6 hours to 1 week to occur.
Side effects tend to decrease the more slowly it is infused. So perhaps this infusion rate was still too fast for you. It will take some adjusting, but you will find the right rate. The side effects will also likely become milder after the next infusions, because your body will get used to the IVIg.
It's also important to keep yourself well hydrated. Lyme patients are advised against taking steroids (like prednisone) though.
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I did not know this about the delayed reaction. It looks like maybe we need to go a little slower next time. Thank you so much for this helpful info, Notti!
Posted by Notti (Member # 43843) on :
Glad to be of help!
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
It has been 10 days since my first IVIG infusion and I am feeling worse now than I did before treatment. I am more fatigued, more depressed, and my cranial neuropathy and ear symptoms are just awful.
I have a lot more sizzling and burning in my head/ears and it feels like they are full of liquid. My jaw and face hurt as though being squeezed
I have a sour taste and smell in my mouth no matter how often I brush my teeth or use a neti pot. But I don't feel as badly as I did the first night after a full day of IVIG treatment (like I was hit by a truck).
For those of you who have done IVIG therapy, did you experience similar? At what point did you feel this treatment was of benefit to you? I am really scared that this might not be the right treatment for me.
I don't know if this is just one big long herx as a result of the new antibodies fighting off my illness the way my old ones should have been. It is scary because I can't imagine myself getting loaded with anymore antibodies unless I start to feel better before next dose, which will be in a week and a half.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
Sorry to hear this! maybe you should call your doctor!!
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I did call and report how I am feeling. I haven't actually talked to the doc yet, but at least she knows. My infusion nurse thinks I feel worse due to IVIG induced herx. She said my doc may change next dosage or recommend other things to do to help.
I am on a lot of ABX and perhaps they are working better now with new antibodies. I just don't want to stress my body out too much. I decided to use Rife machine today using detox and tinnitus settings. Hoping that will help.
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
dbpei, I suggest you do every form of detox possible.
Take Alka Seltzer Gold 4 times per day with lemon or lime. Drink lemon water all day long--lots of it. etc etc.
Hoping this will provide you with some relief.
Detoxing is always necessary for the patient to feel better.
If you have any glutathione, take that. Epsom Salts baths, etc.
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I appreciate the advice. I forgot about these good old detox methods. I have them all on hand. Will try some of these.
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Sorry to hear dbpei.
We fight so hard to get well.
Today is 1 week since my infusion.
No noticeable improvement. But I don't think that means it's not working. I just think it will take time. I m taking one day at a time and documenting my progress.
We have been sick for so long, our bodies have taken a beating.
Nothing is a quick fix. We are in it for the long haul. Keep your fingers crossed and hang in there friend. Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Progress report.
I had my 2nd IVIG treatment yesterday. I took alka selzer and Claritin in the morning before IV.
Everything again was piece of cake. Normal blood pressure and oxygen readings throughout procedure.
I have been extremely exhausted the past 2 weeks. Have had cat-scan, ultra sound, numerous blood and urine tests.
And my infamous cat scratch on Easter.(posted picture).
Anyways, after nurse left yesterday, wanted nap so bad but couldn't relax, calm down. Pacing from room to room. Night was scary with constant heart palpitations. Took 1/2 Xanax in 4 hours intervals, plus low dose aspirin. Finally was able to sleep. Horrible night.
I can only attribute this to 3 things. . .
Something in IVIG upset my system Cat scratch infection Too much iodine from applying it on my scratch continually
Today alittle better.
Off to urologist for cathedral treatment. And results from cat scan and blood and urine tests. Wish me LUCK ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Good luck!!! Give us a report when you can!
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
IVIG makes me very tired so maybe that is part of what is happening to you BB. I think it might also make me feel sicker from my ABX treatment but as I approach the end of my 3 weeks, I seem to feel better. I am also not sleeping as well at night, even though I am tired. I wake up a lot and sometimes my mind just won't slow down.
Your cat scratch certainly didn't help. I checked out your post about the cat scratch. It looks nasty, but your kitty is adorable! I can tell she didn't mean it. Is it healing up okay now?
You have a lot going on. Good luck with everything and keep us posted!
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Good news to report. ❤️
Just finished 3rd IVIG treatment. Feeling SO much better ! Thank you to my guardian angel.
You know that dreadful hangover feeling the minute you open your eyes in the morning ? (I know you do). IT'S GONE ! That was major improvement, made me cry tears of joy.
Also:
Tinnitis finally on back burner ( I know, major, right ?) IC bladder pain gone. Canceled my urologist appointment today. Enough already. Vertigo and dizziness significantly improved Energy level significantly improved.(major) Headaches totally gone. Smile more than cry
I would say I m 50% better. I would attribute this to:
1. Good LLMD 2. Antibiotics 3. Supplements and diet 4. IVIG treatments 5. Time. ( Dr B says gender definitately plays a role in Lyme. Men generally respond to subtle improvements in 3 months, women 6 months). I will finish month 6 of Lyme and Bart treatment the end of May.
As I continue on this journey, it is my opinion that Lyme is an immune system hijacker. How else to explain why some of the population who test positive, show no symptoms what so ever ?
My goal is not to cure, but to get to dormat stage. Healing wishes to all Lyme warriors. Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Hallelujah! Yes, yes, yes!!!!!
Wow!
Posted by dbpei (Member # 33574) on :
I am so happy for you Bartenderbonnie! This is such great news!
I started my IVIG around the same time as you and although my improvement is not as pronounced as yours, after my 4th treatment, I am noticing some subtle changes for the better.
Fingers crossed I am on the right path. It is so very encouraging when we see some improvement. I have noticed for me that I feel worse after my IVIG treatments and within a week before my next treatment, I start to feel better.
This could be caused by a prolonged herx with the good antibodies fighting for me during those first couple of weeks followed by a period where my body is able to clear the toxins. That is my hunch, anyhow, as to how my body is handling these new soldiers.
I hope you continue to feel better and let us know how you are doing! Posted by qkcam (Member # 45133) on :
I am glad to read some good progress here. my primary dr has an rx set up for me to go in for IVIGG. i have been nervous because i am pretty much on my own..not sure if i can drive home afterword?? any ideas?
also i have been told i have the "dreaded" mold gene and i need to live in an environment with low level mold. while i dont see any mold here i know there has been water damage to the building and it tested a 16 on HERTSMI score.
i guess the ivigg might be the next "easy" step. i hope it doesnt cause my immune system to flare up and freak out regarding the "mold" issue.
my previous LLMD said he had no idea what would happen and that i need to move before i could see him again. not much help.
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
I don't like ultimatums. They are final actions. There is almost always a compromise solution. A meeting of the minds to find what works for BOTH parties, as you and your doctor should be a team.
Maybe you could move in the foreseeable future, but that doesn't help you now. To be told to eliminate all sugars from your diet is one thing but to be told to elimate your home is quite different.
If my LLMD gave me an ultimatum to get rid of my cat, I would have to find a new LLMD. Of coarse, a compromise would be refraining my cat to sleep with me or have access to my bedroom.
A high quality air purifier might be an option for you. A compromise maybe your doctor would be open to ?
You stated your LLMD said he didn't know what side effects IVIG would have on you due to your mold gene. Well, he should know ! Mold pays an important part in TBI's..
As for driving after a treatment, I find I am very tired. Unable to sleep though. Sort of an internal wired. I get home nursing to come to my house. Does your insurance offer that option ? How about a curtesy van for transportation ? I have driven afterwards with no problem. It's usually the day after a treatment that I find I am horizontal for the day.
I sure hope someone pipes in here about your mold issues. We all learn from each other here at lymenet.
dbpei, You are spot on about symptoms prior to treatments and after treatments. 1 week before and 1 week after are noticeable but manageable. Fatigue being the most major. Step in the right direction but we are gonna need a lot more time, unfortunately.
Keep on keeping on . . .
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Your previous lyme doc was helping you in the sense that he didn't want you to spend any more money paying for visits to him if you did not move.
He also didn't want to spend any time trying to help you as long as you lived in that moldy place because it is a losing proposition. It will do you no good.
The message is that you are wasting your time with a lyme doctor until you get out of the moldy environment.
I am allergic to mold. By living in a rented house that had mold in it, I ended up getting black mold growing in my ear. For the entire 3 years we lived in that house, I was continually sick and going to the ENT.
The result of those 3 years was that I got lyme disease. This was taught at a lyme conference a few years ago. Suffering with mold sets a person up for lyme disease and other chronic illness because it weakens your immune system. You must expect to remain sick as long as you are living in a moldy environment with your gene makeup.
So, you must get out of that house. There has to be a place in the vicinity that tests better than what you are in right now.
So, in essence, the doc is saying that you must make it a priority to get out of the mold. The mold caused you to get lyme and you cannot get well as long as you are in a moldy environment.
Since I completely agree with him, I see his strong stance as a way of educating you and impressing on you that your first priority must be to move.
Since 25% of the population has the mold toxicity (poisoning) problem, there have got to be places in your area that such people can live and not be sick.
You have to find these places. Chose only well maintained properties. Inspect the plumbing (look under sinks for evidence of water leakage, look at the floor around the toilet for evidence of leakage, look at the tiles in the bathroom for evidence of mold in the grout, etc.), inspect the basement, know what a mold smell smells like, etc.
Maybe you can find out where he lives if it is nearby. Try newer homes as opposed to older ones, newer apartment buildings as opposed to older ones, ones away from water (like streams that can flood, etc.) instead of ones right on some water, stay away from basement apartments and anything even partly under ground (like the bedroom being a little under ground even though the rest of the place isn't, etc.) Very top floors may be the best for you.
Here are some threads that will teach you about the mold/lyme connection and how serious it is for you, with the mold gene AND lyme, to stay in such an environment.
thanks for your feedbacks. there is sort of a shuttle i can take , walk part way and transfer..i may do that for the IVIGG. I am a bit confused about how my body will react with the mold.
although i dont physically see mold. the LLMD is going off an ART session i did (in april). and the hertsmi test last year.
last year he had me get a good air oasis filter.. and i am still using that. i like your thinking about the comprose. he doesnt seem to compromise.
as far as moving, we'll i live in the bay area. i have a "rent control" one bedroom and i pay 1300.. the upstairs same as mine is now going for 2300. i can t really afford to move. unless i move far far away and then my whole support systme (what little i have left) and drs / iv igg will be far away as well.
I am looking but this is going to take a while. i keep the windows open as much as i can and run the air oasis 24x7, it is for a 3000sq ft place and my apartment is only 700 sq ft. i am also looking into an air iq filter.
i know where i lived before for 10 years i had black mold under my bed and under the carpet, it was a "converted " garage. i did get really sick there.
i dont get infections like i used too thank goodness. i used to get 102 temps with lung infections..but those are very far inbetween, mabye becasue i am not able to work and not working has givin my body some time to rest more
i get it about the mold. those are great tips TF.. some of the bigger challlanges are when pipes inside walls leak and they repair the wall but maybe they dont dry out the wood frame... i recently had that happen here. they did let the wood air out for 2.5 days though before they put the drywall up.
i have my eyes out for a place, but i dont think it will be immediate and i am hoping the IVIGG might help me with a sense of wellbeing and a bit more energy in the meantime. i am going to meet with my dr again on thursday.. my primary that wants me to do the ivigg and explain more about the situation and see what her thoughts are.
also i am considering the LDI which might help my body not be so reactive to the mold.
thanks for the support and ideas Bartenter Bonnie and TF
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Yes, yes, yes.
IMO, it's what made me turn the corner towards wellness.
If you can find a way to get approved for treatments, go for it !
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