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Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
 
this is a report on effect of Stevia on Lyme -

web page
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Thank you! Sometimes, it's the simplest things that do the most... Look at knotweed. It grows everywhere - like plantain (psylium seeds), marijuana, kratom...

(Not advocation anything illegal if it's not available in your state or country.)
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
excerpt:

Different Stevia extracts manufactured by Nutramedix®, Now®, Sweet leaf®, and Truvia® were purchased from health food stores in the USA and were labeled randomly as Stevia A, B, C, and D.

The extracts A, B, and C were formulated by standard alcohol extraction method whereas extract D was purchased in a powder form dissolved in distilled water.

Stevioside (Sigma) was prepared in 0.001% DMSO and further diluted in 1× phosphate buffered saline (PBS, 0.1 M, pH 7.4 from Sigma). The antibiotics doxycycline, cefoperazone, and daptomycin (Sigma) at a concentration of 10 μg/ml were prepared in PBS.

All antimicrobial agents were sterilized using a 0.2-μm filter unit (EMD Millipore, Billerica, MA). The antibiotic solutions were aliquoted and stored at minus 20 °C.

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It said that Stevia A worked best. I didn't see where it said which brand was Stevia A. Does anyone know which brand was Stevia A?
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
Regarding Stevia A, the article does not name it. (Perhaps they did not want to give the brand free advertising.)

You could try finding the study in footnote 48 to see which type of stevia has the highest antimicrobial potential.
 
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
 
Stevia does not travel past the digestive tract. It might kill Lyme in the gut, but for disseminated Lyme its not an appropriate treatment.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Effectiveness of Stevia Rebaudiana Whole Leaf Extract Against the Various Morphological Forms of Borrelia Burgdorferi in Vitro.

"in Vitro"... (of a process) performed or taking place in a test tube, culture dish, or elsewhere outside a living organism.

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University of New Haven professor’s research focuses on ‘horrible’ Lyme disease

http://www.nhregister.com/article/NH/20151011/NEWS/151019914

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Hopefully, it will develop into something useful. I'm not a scientist so I don't know how antibiotics or herbs penetrate into the various parts of the body to heal Lyme. If I had time, I'd study it further.

Thanks for the heads up in any case, Jordana.
 
Posted by jsnyde2 (Member # 7888) on :
 
I herxed from Stevia in an apple cider vinegar drink when my Lyme was flaring. I'm on Cowden now & Stevia is one of the tinctures. So far, so good.
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Jordana, how do you know? jsnyde2 experience is not consistent with your digestive track point.
 
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
 
3) Metabolism
Steviol glycosides are poorly absorbed in the body and pass through the upper gastrointestinal tract fully intact. Once steviol glycosides reach the colon, gut bacteria convert steviol glycosides into steviol. Steviol is then metabolized by the liver before being excreted in the urine.

Research has shown that there is no accumulation of stevia (or any byproduct of stevia) in the body during metabolism. It is because of this poor absorption in the digestive tract that stevia has zero calories and does not raise blood glucose or insulin levels when digested.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/287251.php

No offense but I'm a little annoyed that people keep posting this same thing about Stevia over and over again. It will not kill Lyme and it misleads sick people. The research is out there with a basic google search.
 
Posted by wrotek (Member # 5354) on :
 
Jordana it is not steviol glycosides that have antimicrobial actions on borrelia. It is clearly stated in the paper... It is whole leaf extract and the chemical has not been identified.
 
Posted by JRWagner (Member # 3229) on :
 
Nutramedix is the brand that worked. It does state this in the study.
 
Posted by desertwind (Member # 25256) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JRWagner:
Nutramedix is the brand that worked. It does state this in the study.

This is what had been recommended to me by Dr. H. for cyst busting properties.
 
Posted by DesertStormTrooper (Member # 50480) on :
 
I wanted to give my experience as well. I have RA, which is bacterial, like Lyme.

I read the study on Stevia and it's ability to break through biofilm. I ordered Nutramedix Stevia, took about 6 drops in the morning and about the same later. I then had one of the worst recognizable herxes I've had yet. I literally bawled myself to sleep. It just tore me up.

After that initial experience, I stopped for a couple of days because there was a little too much going on at home to manage a herx.

Today, I'm back at it. We'll see what happens. Uggh.
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Please do keep us updated DesertStorm. We are using it too, but did not have that quick of a herx and we could not attribute any herxing to it specifically.
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
Yes, rheumatoid arthritis is a bacterial infection that can be cured with long-term low dose antibiotics.

It can also be treated with anti-inflammatories and avoiding foods that you are allergic to. I saw it work in a friend of mine. Wow!

The bacterial theory of RA is the minority view in the medical community. Anyone with RA can Google the Road Back Foundation to read the science behind the bacterial theory of RA.

So, similar to lyme, there are 2 approaches to treatment of RA. Funny that the medical community didn't want to pursue the bacterial theory of RA. Steroids came along right after the bacterial approach was discovered.

It would have put rheumatologists and big pharma out of the business of treating RA for the lifetime of all those RA sufferers. Isn't that coincidental?
 


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