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Posted by stefi42 (Member # 48591) on :

So I have a septoplasty scheduled for March 19th, and in typical fashion, I’m worrying way too much about this.

A year prior to my Lyme diagnosis, I underwent transsphendoidal surgery to remove a pituitary cyst that had ruptured. After the surgery I was supposed to recover in less than a week. The doctor even told me I should be out of the hospital in less than 3 days.

I was in the ICU for 10 days.

I was an abnormal patient. No one understood why my condition worsened after the ruptured cyst had been removed. Now we understand that it was Lyme.

My biggest worries with this seamlessly easy procedure is the aftermath. After my first surgery, I was in crippling pain for months. (I still feel the area where the surgery was done). The surgery and open wounds allowed my Lyme a pathway to my brain, rapidly developing neuroborreliosis.

Could this septoplasty set me back even more?

I need the surgery. I literally can’t breathe from my nose and have become a full mouth breather. During the septoplasty I will be undergoing 4 procedures bc my nose is all messed up from the pituitary cyst resurrection.

Has anybody gone through this? Or at least had a surgery with Lyme? Anything helps!
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
I don't know if this would help, but Craniosacral therapy might help. It might not be a fix, but a help, both before the surgery and afterwards (at the point that it would be safe). It's extremely gentle work.

Go to the Upledger Institute website to look for practitioners in your area.

On the other front, yes, surgery with what we've got is more fraught with difficulties.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Is there a good friend or relative (with patience, understanding and energy) who could become your "Project Manager" for this?

Please do not be critical and think that you are " worrying way too much about this. " If it's all consuming, maybe - yet there is much to consider and it will require a bit of attention to detail long beforehand. Put it in perspective and compartmentalize it like a project so that you can turn off after a "study" session for preparation, though.

Be clear in difference between "worrying" and "proper planning". This really matters. Worrying is a emotion and can kidnap us. Planning is what adults do for anything that matters. It's our job.

Also be clear when you are feeling emotions about this. That's understandable and there's a place to express and manage those - but don't let emotions kidnap you.

Sadly, on one hand, long gone are the days when we can just "show up" and have things run smoothly for us.

On the other hand, with good preparation, we have better chances for success - and some degree of control & comfort.

There are some very real time consuming aspects to the prep work for this kind of project.

Rumigirl's suggestion of Upledger Institute cranial sac. is excellent.

Think of surgery as a healing light wand. As it's a structural issue, sounds like this should be a healing correction.

I'd want to wait a month after any flu issues might be cleared from hospitals. Not sure what the prediction is for certain regions but it could go into March. Putting it off till April might be less stress on hospital staff, etc. and better for all others in the building, too.

But, then, if you have seasonal allergies you do not want to have just had this done and then have to deal with pollen. Spring is early in your state so maybe March is best.

You want to schedule this AWAY from menstrual period.

On the practical points, be sure to talk to your LLMD / former LLMD for there are things about surgery /

* anesthesia and lyme.

* the procedure, itself. Get all the details, any videos, etc. so you can have a clear picture and then think of how well yours will go.

* EPI - ephinephrine should be avoided if possible. It can trigger adrenal issues for those with lyme. It is sometimes used in anesthetics.

* Steroids often routine after any surgery. Can be a big problem for those with lyme, etc. LLMD should have suggestions on other methods to reduce inflammation or how to make sure steroids don't impact infections - a counter measure.

* antibiotics sometimes routine. Check with LLMD to coordinate.

* if abx, antifungal methods important, too, for GI and (if for women, vaginal health)

* your own special cream for after urinary cathera (sp?) would be removed as they are usually placed during surgery. Make them wait till the last minute to put in, though. Less time in the better.

* Avoid hospital foods

* will vaccine be pushed?

If staying in hospital, some push / force vaccines. Being prepared matters. Avoiding vaccines is important due to the additives and push on immune system with the aluminum and glyphosate (and so much more) in them.

I have links on each point but just too tired to sort those out now. So glad you did not want till the night before to post. Will come back within the next couple days with links I have for points above.

[ 02-11-2018, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

UPLEDGER INSTITUTE (particular method)

CranioSacral Therapy
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Food plan

I'm thinking you may already be gluten-free and diary-free. If not, now's a good time to start to lessen both inflammation and phlegm in sinuses and gut.

I'm hoping whatever doctors who have been treating you for sinus issues have already explained why dairy, especially, is so bad for nasal congestion.

Also a good time to avoid all GMO foods. (Genetically modified organisms, that is.)

Organic foods are not GMO. Be sure to get excellent nutrients in good foods. Let foods nourish your cells so you can be as strong as possible for the "healing event"
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

Surgery thread
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

Hip Replacement Surgery ?

Many ideas for anyone, any kind of surgery here . . . specific cautions for those with lyme, too.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Learn about your right to say no, IF you want to. But also how the terms / forms can include things you may not know. Homework needs to be done prior. It may not be all that easy to have control. Find out in advance.

Even if you want a vaccine, really, it's no time to be getting one immediately prior to surgery right then and there.

Nurse Warns of "Biologics" & Forced Flu Shots Happening in US Hospitals

3:30 Video - YouTube - May 13, 2016

Hospital Policy - must administer vaccines . . . and there's more, too. "Biologics" may also be forced

After the video, see links set for BIOGOLICS, here:;f=3;t=036113;p=0

LymeToo posted on 16 May, 2016

Topic: Next time you have surgery ... You need to know THIS!
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
For reference:;f=1;t=131625;p=0

VACCINE LINKS set - Ingredients in Vaccines
Posted by koo (Member # 30462) on :
Sent you a PM.
Posted by Kylie (Member # 52158) on :
Hello, I understand you, and I hope everything will be ok. I had a similar situation after an unsuccessful surgery on my breast, It was followed by a number of complications. But happily, I found Dr. Sessa from which is a really good specialist, that helped me a lot and made a successful breast augmentation surgery that wasn't followed by different kinds of complications. I truly recommend his services, because he won't disappoint you for sure. just take your chances and do it.

[ 09-29-2020, 07:36 AM: Message edited by: Kylie ]

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