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Posted by lindadanis (Member # 51204) on :
I am having twelve teeth removed and going into dentures. Any advice would be appreciated as I am very nervous doing this with lyme disease. My llmd told me to do it so I am taking her advice.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
May I ask why you are having 12 teeth removed? That is a big step.

Not all dentures are comfortable, so if you do this find someone who specializes in making them-not just a regular dentist.
Posted by lindadanis (Member # 51204) on :
I am having it done because most of my teeth are broken. I was advised to do all at once, it would be easier on me.
Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
Linda, this is going to be trauma to your body. Be prepared to face many issues, symptoms afterwards from the stress.

I hope you are taking many immune system boosting supps & vitamins.

If there is mercury in any of those teeth, make sure the oral surgeon uses a dam to prevent any mercury from getting into your gut. I would want a mask over my nose also.

The oral surgeon must know you are in very poor health and are fighting a chronic illness.

I would recommend heavy charcoal usage the day prior, the hours after and the next day. Make sure you are well hydrated and your BM are flowing. You need to be in the best detox shape possible.

Also detoxing well will help get the meds out of the system that they will use to knock you out.

I've never had 12 pulled. I'm just experienced at losing 3 at a time and then going back and losing 3 more teeth at different times.

Teeth breakage is quite common in this Lyme world, but it's also quite common in folks with untreated Thyroid Disease. I believe you've been replied to about the great possibility that you have Thyroid disease also.

Posted by marie (Member # 3980) on :
I didn't have any trouble with one wisdom tooth removed and multiple cavities over the years. But my most recent flare-up which seems to be progressive Lyme symptoms followed a cavity filling. I have teeth that need to be removed but had not had them done for this fear. I think I was on abx prior to wisdom tooth surgery as a precaution which is what I would check on.
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Sending you a pm regarding getting you a fresh set of eyes on your case before proceeding.
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
Please, please get another opinion from another dentist or doctor!! This sounds really draconian.

I presume that your LLMD is not a dentist, so . . . If I were you, I would hold off and see someone else and carefully consider it.

As a point of reference: my mouth, unfortunately, is a terrible mess, due to having Sjogren's Disease (they upgraded it from a syndrome). It's a severe (in my case) dry mouth autoimmune condition.

I'm mentioning it, because I am having a LOT of dental work, as pretty much every tooth is broken, decayed, cracked, worn down, etc. And I've lost a lot of teeth. I used to have really good dental health, but Lyme and co has done a number on my teeth.

But my dentist is doing build-ups, crowns on some, taking care of the decay, etc. He would never suggest having them all removed. It just sounds traumatic and drastic. And dentures aren't ideal either.

My dentist, who taught dentistry at an Ivy-League school for decades, definitely feels that we should do everything possible to save the teeth that I have, in spite of all the breakage, etc.

In my case, and likely yours, there is no ideal solution, so you do the best you can. Please don't rush into this.

Why does your doctor feel this is the best solution?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I pulled 7 teeth out, but did also the cavitation cleansing in the jawbone.

I guess, that is a must, for lyme sufferers because there's a lot of infection in the bones that must be cleared...

I asked my lyme doctor to pull 5 teeth at once, and he strongly suggested NOT to do that.

He's got extensive experience with lyme patients, as he sends ALMOST all his bad patients for surgery, for the last 20 years.

He's also side by side the surgeon to follow what's happening, prepare the homeopathic nosodes etc.

Well, I could do max 2 teeth at once, it is rather fast (the teeth come out in minutes, but the jaw cleansing takes about 15-20 min, depending on how bad they are)...

I would also use the cheap Violet Ray if I have to do that again. The reason is that it CLEARLY lowers post-surgical pain.

I never took any pain killer for these surgeries NOR antibiotics. I was taking homeopathic nosodes though...

I wrote you a PM.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Originally posted by Bartenderbonnie:
Sending you a pm regarding getting you a fresh set of eyes on your case before proceeding.

Yes, get a second opinion.
Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
linda, since '14 I've lost 6 teeth to horrible decay. One of those was a root canal and I wanted it removed. I've also had 7 old crowned teeth cleaned up and newly crowned. Those 7 crown teeth seem to be happy & healthy.

I'm healthier today because I had no clue and my old dentist was clueless of my hidden issues. All of the disease in my teeth/oral cavity was keeping me ill in the rest of my body.

I ended up getting a top and bottom partial after all that work to give me a proper bite and appearance.

It would have been cheaper to have all my teeth pulled. But I was in it to win a fight. Everyone's situation is different.

In our chronic illness head to toe body, I highly recommend a Bio-Dentist. They see the health of the whole body. A regular dentist just sees teeth.

Posted by EmilyPaigelrpI (Member # 52319) on :
A few years ago, I also ran into dental surgery in the clinic, and it was terrible.
I was completely unhappy with the result. I was warned, but I did not expect that I would have problems with the implants. After the first problems and inflammation appeared, I decided to study this issue in more detail and find qualified specialists.
In addition, they provided qualified assistance, and I decided to use their services. It was a completely different result. They not only helped me get rid of my previous implants, but they also helped me install new ones.

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Posted by daisys (Member # 11802) on :
When I had work done in my mouth and laughing gas was used, nitrous oxide, I had a relapse so quick I wasn't sure I would be able to drive myself home.

It took a while to recover.

Once I found a good LLMD, I was told to always ask for versed. I have had procedures, not dental, and haven't had a set back with it.

Hope all works out for your health.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Originally posted by EmilyPaigelrpI:
You can do bleaching, but for that use it very sparely like a lot less than they say to, take what they say on the box and half it.

A lot of the over the counter bleaching things are harsh on your enamel, so you need to be aware of that. (Some people bleach too much and destroy their enamel so don't do that.)

Just because your teeth are stained that doesn't mean they are unhealthy, but do make sure you get them cleaned by a dentist twice a year.

With coffee try using a straw to drink it (be careful it's not too hot) and when you are done just rinse your mouth out with water.

Also if you drink carbonated drinks, they are bad for you, even the soda water, because it harms your teeth.

As far as cosmetic dentist go, at least I'd rather have my own teeth than veneers, and once you do that you have to commit to them for the rest of your life.

That's because it's basically like a filling and they need to file down your teeth to get them to stick. A lot of people on TV have them, but for regular people, it will do more harm than good in my opinion.

I'm not a dentist but I'm very ocd about my teeth. >.< My teeth have stain on them because I drink tea a lot, but it's ok. So before you go to a cosmetic dentist go to a regular one and have them clean your teeth, then they can advise you on what to do better. I hope this helps. <3

Breaking up the post for easier reading for many here - Robin123

She's asking about broken teeth .. not stained teeth. Two years ago.

Just saying.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
daisys .. I cannot handle the nitrous oxide either. It makes me feel like I'm upside down.
Posted by lightfoot (Member # 2536) on :
Yikes!! I won't go into my journey of horrors.

All I can say is get SEVERAL and LLMD.

Study the issue in many aspects here to consider from: Lyme, anesthetics, mercury, cavitations, dental materials, recovery time. Dentures alone is a massive study for someone like us venturing there!!

Good luck and keep us posted!

PS Dentures will NEVER replace your ability to eat with natural (even broken) teeth!!!!!
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