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Posted by orrn71 (Member # 50137) on :
So I had blood work done a couple weeks ago and just got the results. My doctor told me my triglycerides were in the 800s. My last blood work they were like 203. What would cause an increase like this? I wish they would repeat the test, because I feel it could be lab error. I have had a stressful year, but nothing else has really changed. Thanks for any input.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
It's pretty easy to reverse withiin a few weeks.

You may not be consuming actual sugar, although grains and beans & some kinds of vegetable and fruits can contribute to high triglycerides, too. Vegetable and fruit smoothies, too.

Though - coffee - even decaf coffee has triggered high triglycerides for some people on a low carb / ketogenic diet even while intermittent fasting for the typical 12 - 16 hours.

So it's not only high carbs or bad "vegetable" oils that can trigger high tirglycerides. Some do fine with coffee, some do not. I do not have the link but that detail was in one video by Dave Feldman who researches lipoproteins / fats in regard to "lean mass hyper-responders" who are on a ketogenic diet.

Still, a good start is with:

With a home glucose meter, Check your blood sugar reading at 30-minute, 60-minutes and 2-hours after a meal will give you a clue as to if that food consumed is too high in carbohydrates / sugars.

DiaThrive is an affordable glucometer that works for me. Once you see how certain foods do or do not work with your blood sugar response, then it's easy to just avoid those carbs that shoot it up.

Lower Your TRIGLYCERIDES Without pills (2019)

11:52 video by Dr. Ken Berry

Be sure to see the full notes and links he posts below his video, too.

Do you have a home glucose meter? If not, that's an important step as well.

Powerful Tool to Improve/Prevent Diabetes: The Glucometer / Glucose Meter

10:34 Video - Dr. Ken Berry

[poster's note: the most affordable glucose meter that works great for me is from DiaThrive.

Also, the kinds of oils you ingest can make a difference.

Topic: "Vegetable" / Seed Oils: Danger & Damage.

And the goodness of saturated fats / animal fats. (Yes, the goodness).

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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
Did you fast past a full 12 hours prior to the test - and no coffee, either?

That matters, even for those not on a LCHF (Low Carb / High Fat) or ketogenic diet as in this video:

Why You Should Fast 12 Hours Before a Cholesterol Test

Dave Feldman, 2018 - 7-minute video

. . . We go through the important reasons for one to fast before taking a lipid panel, especially if they are on a LCHF/Keto diet. The risk of not doing so is spiking your triglyceride numbers substantially. . . .
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
I can't find the first video where someone wrote in about how coffee, and then also decaf coffee sent their triglycerides to the moon . . . and had the test scores to show that . . . but here he talks a bit more about that.

Again, while his audience is a low carb / high fat &/or ketogenic group, what he explores can be helpful to anyone else, too.

Further thoughts, Q & A on Triglyceride Carryover

Dave Feldman and Siobhan H. 35-minute videe

Dave and Siobhan discuss the new data on triglyceride carryover and its context with low insulin, the carnivore diet, and possible coffee connection.

Incredible Changes in LDL Cholesterol Through a Simple Diet Experiment

Dave Feldman - 12-minute video

This experiment demonstrates how cholesterol is highly influenced by diet in an extremely short time frame. See for a more in-depth understanding of this research.
Posted by orrn71 (Member # 50137) on :
Thanks Keebler! You are always so full of information. I was just floored.

That was just a huge difference. I don't think my diet changed all that much.

The doctor is a new doctor. I had to leave my awesome health care provider when I moved and I am heartbroken over it.

I cannot find a LLMD in my area and haven't been treating my Lyme and coinfections for several

months now due to finances and not having a LLMD.

I think I am going to try a new doctor too. I really appreciate everyone here on this forum.

I always turn here when I have questions. Thanks again.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
I've never had a LLMD or a regular LL ND, either. I have found the books by Stephen H. Buhner and also Dr. Zhang's book to be the top helpers. I did the Zhang protocol for several months - twice - as much as I could afford and it did help even for a shorter time than ideal.

Also, there are just two herbs that I take, rotate: Andrographis and Berberine as I can only afford one thing like that at a time. Each has helped a lot.

IMO, your high reading of Triglycerides likely has NOTHING to do with lyme. It's most likely all about what you ate the week prior, or weeks prior . . .

the time of day, or hours fasting (or not fasting) . . . or even what you ate the day or few days prior if you are already fairly low or even carb intake and glucose is not elevated much at all after foods.

or, possibly a side-effect to some kind of medication?

One way that the triglycerides could be connection to lyme infection is if you have "fatty liver" but, even then, Dr. Berry instructs how to turn that around if food is the cause.

If infection is the cause of fatty liver, see the books of master herbalist Stephen H. Buhner on liver support. Milk Thistle is a basic one that helps the liver.

However, often high carb foods (and even veggie juices) are at least part of the cause.

It's easier to turn around both fatty liver and high triglycerides than anything else I've ever done. Within DAYS, even, I'd bet your tests would look different, though, if diet is the cause or part of the cause, it's best to adopt a new plan to keep it steady.

I know all the videos are a lot. And some may seem like they have nothing to do with you if you are not on LCHF / keto . . . and if you are not one of the rare "lean mass hyper responders" in that group.

However, what they see in their often daily blood testing can help us all better understand the fluctuations and the ways to get the most accurate readings.

My guess is that after you can look at all those videos, you will know more about what raises triglycerides and you could likely have a repeat test in four weeks' time and the level would be normal with key diet shifts away from any carbohydrates that raise your blood glucose.

Fruit, in any form, though, can send triglycerides to the moon. That's because all fruit / fructose has to be metabolized by the liver and it takes very little fructose to cause fatty liver. And fatty liver spikes triglycerides. Again, it is easy to reverse with weeks.

Also know what things raise insulin though may not show high on glucose readings. There is no home insulin test.

If your food is very stable so as not to raise glucose much at all after consuming . . . after about a month, you might also ask for an insulin test: HOMA-IR, along with a Hb A1C. And fasting insulin, perhaps.

Dr. Ken Berry's videos will also explain why we require cholesterol and that it's not bad at all (unless there is high sugar or high fructose on board and then that can oxidize the fats, not good).

And more about this in the "Vegetable Oils: Danger" link above.

First step, if you don't already have one, be sure to get a home glucose meter. DiaThrive is the most affordable I've found.

I don't know how I lived without one for so many years. I think everyone / every family should have one.

If you do find you need to lower your carb intake, be sure to have adequate meat and meat fats.

Good luck, Take care.

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