This is topic Plaquenil and Chloroquine Cure For Covid-19 ? in forum Medical Questions at LymeNet Flash.

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Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Plaquenil (generic hydroxychloroquine) and Chloroquine Phosphate (brand name Aralen) have shown promise on the treatment of Covid-19 according to medical providers in China, Japan, Australia, UK and California.

"Chinese experts have confirmed that chloroquine phosphate, an anti-malaria has a curative effect on Covid-19. Patients who have taken the drug have shown better outcomes on fever, improvement on CT images of the lungs, and the percentage of patients who become negative in viral nucleic acid tests and the time time it took to do so."

An example;
"A 54 year old patient in Bejing, who was admitted to hospital 4 days after showing symptoms. After taking the drug for a week, he saw all indicators improve and the viral nucleic acid turn negative."

So far, no serious adverse reactions have been found in over 100 patients.

UK bans export and hoarding of these Covid-19 drugs;
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
I put CBD oil on a very large ugly 5 yr old wart on my hand and it was gone in 3 days! A wart is a virus!

What if someone with covid-19 smoked pot (weed) ?
Covid-19 effects the lungs.

The lotion I used had 500mg hemp extract.


I mean really wouldn't the thought of hemp helping or curing be ironic after they've touted the benefits because they don't want us using naturals or alternatives...

Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
And what does plaquenil do to lyme disease?
Posted by Garz (Member # 52095) on :
Originally posted by spookydew:
And what does plaquenil do to lyme disease?

Horowitz uses it as a supportive treatment for antibiotics - he says it:

1, alkalizes the intracellular compartment making antibiotics work better there

2, helps reduce auto-immune reactions often present in lyme patients

3, other things i have forgotten
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
So if alkalizes the intracellular compartment then alkalizing is more important than what people thought!
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Hydroxychloroquine found to be 3 times more potent than chloroquine. Dosing schedule for loading dose of hydroxychloroquine for Covid is 400 mg 2 times daily followed by maintenance dose of 200 mg 2 times daily for 4 days.
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
I was wondering if Tonic water that has quinine at

a very very low trace amount would help to prevent

covid-19. I know it wouldn't kill it but...

I know it tastes nasty because years ago when I

first got lyme I was so desperate that I was doing

a lot of stuff and I did drink tonic water for a

Posted by lymenotlite (Member # 33166) on :
Posted by Cass A (Member # 11134) on :
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
Please DO NOT take fish chloroquine phosphate.
Man dies, wife in critical condition after ingesting fish med.

Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :
And one who was one Plaqeniel can get it filled
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
Quinine facilitates tranport of zinc into the cell and zinc stops replication of virus.

Supplementation zinc for people deficient
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
You'll find loads of stories of death with chloroquine NOW that it was said to be effective against the Covid19.

Chloroquine has been discovered in the 1930s, so it has a history of 90 years of use.

If you google LD50, which means, median LETHAL DOSE that kills 50% of individuals, you'll find this LD50 of all drugs.

Aspirin LD50 is 200mg/kg orally (this dose kills 50% of individuals, usually mice or rats, but you can sort of have an idea for humans by multiplying our weight).

Cloroquine LD50 is 626mg/kg (rats) or 500mg/kg (mice).

This means that ASPIRIN is 2-3x MORE POISONOUS than CHLOROQUINE.

For a 75kg person to die with it, he'll need about 37.5 grams of chloroquine (he'll then have a 50% chance of dying from it).

This means a man of 75 kg would need 75 tablets of 500mg of chloroquine (or 150 tablets of it, in case the pill's got 250mg cloroquine) to reach LD50, a 50% chance to die from poisoning.

This drug is one of the most known drugs ever.
And certainly, one of the safest (in terms of toxicity).

If this is SUPER DANGEROUS as it's been portrayed in the media, well, ASPIRIN is MUCH more POISONOUS!!! [bonk]

Dr Raoult in France got death threats because he was promoting chloroquine. He simply went to the police who tracked the phone call, coming from a medical doctor from a large hospital in Nantes.

Campaigns AGAINST chloroquine are seen in Europe. I watch the French and Swiss TVs.

You bet that that they don't want us to get these medicines, probably because they know that this confinement can end and cost a ridiculous price (just a box of chloroquine).

Or maybe, they want us to buy their vaccines.

Note that HYDROXYchloroquine is EVEN LESS dangerous, and that's the treatment that has been proposed as a cure the covid19.

I don't buy a penny about chloroquine being dangerous. Dr Klinghardt said that this just proves that someone does not want us to get it as treatment against the Covid19.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
The guy promoting chloroquine in France, called Dr Didier Raoult, is a rather known microbiologist.

Guess one of this main topic of research? Rickettsias!!!

He basically researchers microbes.

He is used with controversies.

but this one may cost his life, in case he continues talking about chloroquine.,-Rickettsia,-and-Whipple,-Oh-My-A-D

You'll see guys, it's not only with lyme that patients have blocked access to EFFICIENT treatments!! [Eek!]

My guess is that they don't want a cheap solution, so easy like chloroquine or Vitamin C.

They want VACCINES!!!
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
So I took my aunt to the university an hour away for her chemo treatments. I ended up with a cough and have had it now for around 5-6 weeks. Sweats, chills, dizziness, runny nose, extreme diarrhea, chest constriction, and shortness of breath. The constriction and shortness of breath started out just few minutes to a half an hour now last about an hour to two hrs. Anyway, my aunt has been hosp 2-3 times since with pneumonia and is currently in hosp. She has lung cancer and has cough and fever twice. Now my husband off work all last week and now for low grade temps, dizziness, weakness, and just overall not well but no cough.
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
We are both essential employees but I have not worked in 2yrs. I worry about grandson that lives with us.

I have been talking with a doctor on fb group that was looking for an over the counter quinine and I was looking for something to go with my quinine.

He educated me on the importance in zinc supplementation with quinine and I educated him on tonic water with it's low dose of quinine.

He asked me if a tiny amt of quinine could help shuttle Zinc into the cells. Zinc interferes with/stops the viral RNA transcription inside the cells and halts the proliferation of the virus.

Provided the diet is sufficiently high in Zinc this will be an effective treatment. I said maybe a constant low level could prevent you getting the virus and possibly halt it if you get it.

I guess that's why a lot of over the counter immune boosters have zinc.
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :
I told this doctor on fb that I bought tonic water over a month ago because of all the news reports and that I had just started taking 1/4 cup mixed in oj twice each day and now up to 3.

Every other day mixing with bismuth for antimicrobial once that day. That my cough goes away for hours after drinking these and that now I have husband on it also.

After talking with the doctor we started on zinc suppl.

Now reading about zinc and looking at many charts and graphs am seeing that the higher the supplement the better the results so we are now taking just a little more zinc.
Posted by spookydew (Member # 8432) on :

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