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Posted by AZURE WISH (Member # 804) on :
No
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
No ... not that I know of [I was bitten at a very young age and don't recall a rash.]
Posted by Yemaya (Member # 8842) on :
No
Posted by Elizabeth in MN (Member # 8466) on :
Bullseye: No
Other rashes (never officially identified as Lyme): Oh yeah
Posted by cbb (Member # 788) on :
yes
bull's eye after attachment time of no more than 4-6 hrs. late 1970s or early 1980s size: 1 1/2" x 2" oval no other symptoms for about 10 yrs.
no - after tick bite about 1996.
Posted by Mathias (Member # 5298) on :
No
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
no bull's eye --- not even sure where/when occurred!
Posted by Mary J (Member # 4234) on :
Yes
Showed it to duck - he said don't worry....
Posted by hurtingramma (Member # 7770) on :
no
Posted by trails (Member # 1620) on :
yes in 1991 - initial infection - bullseye with tick still attached in center. In a week multiple bullseyes expanding all on same side of body.
no in 2000 - reinfection/ relapse
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Posted by charlie (Member # 25) on :
Two of us...one yes one no
Posted by Rene (Member # 4870) on :
NO
rash but not bullseye
Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :
YES
I had a bullseye rash in 1996. Duck gave me 10 days of abx and told me I'd be fine.
Between 1996 and dx last June, I also had at least two full body rashes.
Andie
Posted by riversinger (Member # 4851) on :
Me - NO
My Son - Yes, but only as a herx after antibiotic treatment.
Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
no
Posted by shazdancer (Member # 1436) on :
Me -- NO, hand swelled and turned red, but no bull's eye
Son -- NO, 2" round rash behind knee, never expanded, never formed a bull's eye
Posted by g-mon (Member # 9219) on :
Nope. Never even saw the tick.
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
Hubby -- No -- Unaware of tick bite
Bea Seibert
Posted by meg (Member # 22) on :
NO and I saw the tick
Posted by tabbytamer (Member # 3159) on :
Yes.
Posted by lymemomtooo (Member # 5396) on :
For my daughter, No for the first multiple bites over many years BUT YES to a new bite a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Wow, an awful lot of "no's" .. Guess that's one reason we're all chronic.
Posted by lymex5&counting (Member # 7202) on :
9 - No Rash
lyme x 9
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
Yes. satellite rashes on calf, leg, torso, arms,and scalp.
no bullseye rashes.
all rashes were uniform in color for the entire area of each rash.
one large, ellipsoidal rash, put on computer, and with photoshop, primary colors removed one at a time, showed a darker center, ellipsoidal shape. on visual inspection,this darker inner area of the rash was not instantly noticeable.
the initial rash, at the singular bite-site, covered the width of my leg, and was 4-6" in height. It was hot, same intensity as a mild to moderate sunburn. at the puncture site of the tick, was a raised-mound-like area, around which the skin subsequently died and sloughed off.
Posted by laserred (Member # 6796) on :
No, to the tick bite [probably more than one over ten years that didn't leave a rash that I saw] that initially and continously had me 'unexplainably' sick
but...
Yup...two years ago a bull's eye rash found by the ER doc was definately left by the tick that took me down.
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
Only Bartonella. Can't figure out when the bacteria went nuts, but body is covered in the "stretch marks".
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
Bullseye - Yes Tickbite - Unknown
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Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
Oh man-here I go again- I have skipped over this thread several times because I had NO idea what a POLL RASH was-and all I could picture was the chaffing that bar room dancers must get hanging onto the pole. For real.
Maybe that's because I had three bullseye in succession-finally went to Duck who paraded me around the practice to show off this third and final EM on my stomach. So that would be a YES YES and YES for me.
Cautionary tale- even though DUCK recognized it immediately-he looked in his handy dandy reference guide written up by the IDSA and mistreated me accordingly.
So here I am-two painful years later-just beginning treatment in earnest with an LLMD. Guess I better keep taking my meds-huh?
Are answers to a poll supposed to be short and sweet and to the point? Blew that one I guess. I'll get the hang of this sooner or later.
Anybody up for some POLE dancing? Carol
Posted by trails (Member # 1620) on :
oh carol! You SLAY me hon!
Posted by hatsnscarfs (Member # 6562) on :
No Bullseye
Other strange rashes though
hats
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Carol B: Anybody up for some POLE dancing? Carol [/QB]
Posted by valymemom (Member # 7076) on :
No rash for me or my two sons.
Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
TreePatrol- Sorry for taking such a detour on your poll. Now that the subject title is changed no one is going to understand why I wrote such a goofy post!
Guess it brought attention to the fact there are some real simpletons like me who really need things spelled out for them.
Carol in MD
Posted by no_lyme_in_florida (Member # 5537) on :
Yes, but rash was solid all the way across (3-4 inch diameter, upper side/back of leg).
LLMD told me that at one conference he went to one of the speakers stated that it was his opinion that solid rashes were more common than bullseye rashes. LLMD said that he did not agree with him.
Also had secondary rashes on foot.
Posted by beccaman (Member # 1558) on :
mine was a bulls eye then over the course of the next week it turned solid. maybe many of you didn't notice yours until it became solid. lucky for me, my LLMD saw the bulls eye.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
keep em comin guys
Posted by lymedesign (Member # 8791) on :
no rash
Posted by jif (Member # 9215) on :
never saw tick
but had odd rash 2xs over a month in midriff area that diagnosed as "impentigo" (sp)
Posted by SayYesh (Member # 8343) on :
Bull's eye rash in the groin Sep 2001
Classic, elliptical, large, maybe 6-7 inches Warm and itchy
Never saw the tick
Had flu-like symptoms (w/o the cough) and hip pain less than a week before rash showed up
6 weeks doxy 200 mg/day. LLMD at that time said, essentially, oh well, some aren't better after treatment, ta-ta.
Negative for Lyme and co-infections Dec 2001
Here I am still. Post-lyme syndrome, chronic lyme? But not as sick as some. I think I am slowly getting better . . .
Posted by ecowoman (Member # 8251) on :
Nope, no rash
Posted by VEE VEE (Member # 5060) on :
No Bulls Eye
But secondary rashes-yes Across chest 3 years ago and back in the 80's on my scalp.
Posted by Patrick (Member # 8108) on :
No rash
Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
Lymetoo noted: Wow, an awful lot of "no's" .. Guess that's one reason we're all chronic.
And those of us lucky enough to have a rash to facilitate diagnoses didn't fare much better because of stupid IGNORANT DUCKS and IDSA.
Carol in MD
Posted by stella marie (Member # 7216) on :
nope
Posted by Dianne (Member # 9450) on :
YES, but it didn't look like a bullseye. In fact, I read one post so I could copy it and change it slightly to describe what mine looked like....."the rash, at the singular bite-site, covered the entire outer side of my right breast, and was 4-6" in width. It was hot and painful, same intensity as a mild to moderate sunburn...the skin subsequently died and sloughed off."
The doctors "guessed" that it was a possible bite from a brown recluse spider but I've always doubted that. I took pictures of it often for about 6 months, with my digital camera, from beginning to end, as it healed and hardened. It was eventually debrided surgically because there was so much dead tissue. I still have the pictures.
Also, I had a miserable outbreak of hives about a month or so before the "bite" showed up. I don't know if the two are connected but it's possible. (I realized recently, long after writing this original post, that the hives outbreak was about 9 months before the bite so it probably wasn't related.)
I just joined the group and I'm very interested in finding a doctor to help me. I'm on SS Disability due to a fibromyalgia diagnosis, along with the depression diagnosis which I'm sure helped me get approved. I was also born with a birth defect called Poland's Syndrome and I've had about 30 reconstructive plastic surgeries, most of which have been failures due to infections.
By the way, I've been taking an antibiotic for almost 3 weeks for a sinus infection and I've felt a little bit better than usual while on the antibiotic. After everything I've read today, I'm convinced I have chronic Lyme's. Thanks to everyone who read this long post.
Dianne in PA
[ 10. December 2006, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: Dianne ]
Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
Hey Diane-Welcome to Lymnet. I got bit by a brown recluse,too, but you could see where the little bugger actually chewed into my skin.
Doctor brought out a magnifying glass to get good look at the damage.He bombarded it with high dose of antibiotics. On my stomach-sucker got to be eight inches across.
This was several years before my Lyme diagnosis. He took this spider bite more seriously than the EM i got from a tick. I actually thought my tick bites were spider bites,too-but they didn't itch.
Since you are new to the board I will tell you , we don't mind reading long posts- I write long posts myself. But we need to break them up more-into shorter paragraphs with more spacing for easier reading.
Just hit the pencil icon at the top and that will let you back into your post to break it up some for easier reading.
Carol from Balto.
Posted by lymelighter2 (Member # 6953) on :
Yes, huge bulls-eye. Two weeks later, disseminated rashes all over my trunk, back, legs, arms, neck.
Doctors ignored all of them.
Hello Lyme disease. Hello brave new world.
Posted by MNgirl (Member # 7744) on :
Yes, multiple bullseye rashes on a variety of places on my body. Don't know where the original tick bite was though.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
Yes!! Got bit by Kentucky ticks (locals call them seed ticks) probably lone star tick nymphs.
Very small ticks they hid in my navel it was the center of the bullseye rash.
Got lyme and babeseia tetrad and babesia micronta.
Posted by duramater (Member # 6480) on :
YES - had an expanding bullseye rash behind my right knee, got pretty large. Was 25 at the time (1989) and had never heard of Lyme disease. Oh well. Didn't hurt, didn't itch, so I didn't see a doc.
Posted by lemonade (Member # 9413) on :
Never, after many bites. My daughter too never had rash.
Posted by jggrl (Member # 9470) on :
rash no. don't know if i got a bite or not but i didn't notice one
Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
Hey-if I had multiple bullseyes does that mean I have multiple personalities? Carol
Posted by mjbucuk (Member # 843) on :
2 sons --- neither with rash
Posted by NP40 (Member # 6711) on :
One teenage son. No notice of a tick or a rash.
Posted by hopeful4 (Member # 8486) on :
No rash No known bite
Posted by Lisianthus (Member # 6631) on :
NO, and NO known tick bite. For me, my husband and other 2 sons.
My youngest son had a Bullseye rash appear in front of my eyes while we were in CT. (Went for my LLMD appointment) Never saw a tick, but he said it was a flying insect, possibly a deer fly. Not sure. Posted by SAK (Member # 7387) on :
Yup. 18 years ago I noticed a bug on my arm that wouldn't fall off when I tried to sweep it off with my other hand.
So, my mom picked it off me with half of it cut off and still inside me . . .
Then, strangely a red bulls-eye thingy appeared at the site where the bug was on my arm. Funny how this mosquito bite rash doesn't itch and has such an interesting coloring, I thought.
I only remembered this incident when I figured out it was lyme. Suddenly it all made sense.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
up for weekend
Posted by Pocono Lyme (Member # 5939) on :
No Bullseye No Rash
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
quote:Originally posted by Carol B: Hey-if I had multiple bullseyes does that mean I have multiple personalities? Carol
hehehe, it could be Carol
Sorry for the interruption. How's the polling going. Tree? Posted by Lymester (Member # 5848) on :
no first and second time.
However, rash along chest and neck where I removed the tick AFTER I started abx.
Posted by Carol B (Member # 9110) on :
Hey TrueBlue-it's fun to be "out to lunch" sometimes.
Actually this week I was downtheocean with LymeMomToo and I kept notes soooo-coming to a thread near you-"Taveling with LymeMomToo "
She may be a little nervous I made it home first! Had to come home to bleach my mustache err I mean my basement, got a little mold from four days of rain.
Back in Balto, Carol Treepatrol-ditto about the break from the intent of this topic-just consider it a commercial or an UP. Posted by lalyme (Member # 8964) on :
Yes. I had the Bullseye rash. I had it when I got infected in 1989.
Posted by Michelle M (Member # 7200) on :
Yup. Under right breast. Even saw the teeny, tiny tick. Pinched him off, tossed him, forgot about it. Couple days later, small rash developed. Never got bigger'n a quarter. Figgered I musta not pulled him off right. Didn't worry about it, even though the rash stuck around to my amazement for several weeks.
No one in my area knew anything about Lyme. (WAY Northern California.)
MUCH smarter now,
Michelle
Posted by Ann-OH (Member # 2020) on :
No. did not see a tick or have a rash either time I got Lyme. Was bit in a very endemic area. Tested positive both time.s
Can't repeat often enough - you don't get immunity from having Lyme. A future tick can give you another case of Lyme.
Ann- OH
Posted by pattilynn (Member # 8065) on :
Yes. 3 bullseye rashes under left breast in 1992. Never saw a tick though. Rashes persisted for several weeks but were painless.
Posted by lymelighter2 (Member # 6953) on :
Up for my response on me, yes for both children, multiple "hive" like rashes, on their legs. Bit by nymph ticks in our backyard in lower SE WI.
Yes on my first tick removed, but no rash on the second adult tick removed from my stomach years later, but yes symptoms that evening
Posted by LYMESCIENCE (Member # 9259) on :
Yep, I had the bullseye rash, and I had a stage 2 rash, and a stage 3 rash.
Stage 2, borrelia Lymphocytoma
Stage 3, acroderamtitis chronica atrophicans
Also, my bulleseye rash comes back occationally, and I also have a vasculitis rash.
But, because I lived in NC, this bullseye rash was nothing to worry about according to the duck 5 years ago, and the borrelia lymphocytoma, also nothing to worry about b/c this form of southern lyme was extremely mild according to the duck.
By the time I had acrodermatitis chronica, I was seeing a LLMD. Apparently southern Lyme wasn't so mild in my case.
Posted by Nebula2005 (Member # 8244) on :
Early fall 1989.
Walking down the hallway in my house in Fort Collins, Colorado--reached back under my jeans waistband to scratch my back. Pulled off fat tick. Hmm. It's the middle of the week, where did this come from? We were in the mountains Saturday or Sunday. Maybe it was hiding in my clothes. But I've showered and changed several times since then. Oh well. Tossed tick in toilet, forgot about it.
Sometime, weeks later, felt hot rough spot on my back. Is this ringworm? Held a mirror up to see my back. Crescent-shaped pink ring, with one spot reddish. Doesn't itch. Just feels weird. My head hurts awful, too. Sinus problems.
Crazy how this thing doesn't go away. Must be hormones. Showed it to a friend---md "stop messin' with it. It's nothing."
YES!!, now I remember it. Unfortunately, no one else does. Or maybe it doesn't matter anyway.
Also had a heatrash like experience on my shoulders and chest after a short course of doxycycline for a persistent cough in 1990. I had never heard of Lyme Disease.
I pieced this together in February 2006, added along with the other misshaped pieces of the puzzle.
tests came back neg now I'm sicker than crap after four months of treatment
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by mjwallin (Member # 9630) on :
No Bullseye. The tick must have been a lousy shot (I suspect some other means of infection than the standard tick bite). Nobody in our house (3 Lymies out of 4) had any rash.
Posted by NUTBOBUTT (Member # 7242) on :
Yes to bullseye but did not pull a tick off,summer of 2004. Blew it off as some kind of "ringworm" perhaps. It went away after a couple of days. Then BAM! November of 2004 went from feeling like a 36 year old to a 90 year old cripple.
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
yes
Posted by Virgil and Mary (Member # 9602) on :
Yes,Virgil had a large rash
Posted by clpgotlyme (Member # 7875) on :
Yes, had rash, but duck said it didnt look like lyme to him. Since I was pregnant he decided to play it on the safe side-10 days of Amoxicillin!That was 13 years ago. Cindy
Posted by sweet pea (Member # 6495) on :
Started with a dark pink bite the size of a mosquito bite. Next day had light pink ring, the size of a nickel. Started doxy that day, rash was gone within a week.
Posted by heiwalove (Member # 6467) on :
no.
Posted by hshbmom (Member # 9478) on :
Bulls-eye NO for 2
Rash YES for 2
me...multiple tick bites throughout life; 17 hours after removing a tick I developed a 3" rash with a 0.5" dark red raised center...the outer area was sunburn pink...Rash expanded to a 7 X 4" oval. Outer pink area faded in 3 days. Rash was itchy.
I had another bite the week before and developed a small red welt (< 0.5 inch)...started having achy hips a couple of days before I got the 2nd bite & developed the rash.
Went to a duck the next morning to show him the rash... Let's submit an antidody titer. It's negative you're fine.>
Over the next few days I had an achy leg at night, a painful ankle, and mild neck pain. Also had quick mild neuro signs...typing, spelling, and proof-reading skills plummeted within a week. Repeated myself & had trouble finding the right words.
I contracted Lyme & babesia.
Dd #1...had a solid red rash the size of a chicken egg at the bite...Rash was itchy. Having neuro signs that might be related to Lyme. Results pending
Dd #1 was sick this past year with intermittent vague symptoms, such as low grade fever, headaches, stomach aches, and bright red cheeks. She missed 19 days of school due to these problems.
Dd #3...was breastfeeding when I had the rash. She's had intermittant low-grade fevers, dry cough, horribly foul breath (necrotic), and has been very clingy. She hasn't been tested or treated.
Dd#2 missed several days of school last year with symptoms similar to those of dd #1. She hasn't been tested or treated.
Hubby is now complaining of arthritic aches & pains he's never had before.
Other children are fine.
I am glad I got the rash; glad I took photos; and glad I found a LLMD quickly.
Thank you LymeNet members for helping the newbies!
Nancy
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Posted by Pitnum (Member # 4906) on :
Yes, had bulls-eye following known tick bite. Bulls-eye developed 2 weeks after tick was removed.
Started out about the size of a dime and gradually progressed to the size of a large grapefruit. It took about 6 months to go away.
Posted by LymeFighter (Member # 9354) on :
Nope, No rash... Saw the tick...dad removed it and my back hurt for 2 weeks after! I asked my primary care physician if my symptoms could have anything to do with the tick bite...she said no way.
I didn't know much about Lyme back then when I was 14 years old...neither did my parents.
But because of one doctor's ignorance...I have suffered for more than 7 years from this "invisible" disease.
Thank goodness I stumbled upon a great caring LLMD and he found what has been causing my suffering for so long.
It's kind of ironic that my first question over 7 years ago was "Could it be from the tick bite?" Then my parents and I search and search and I go through hell and lose all of my teenage years...Then I hear this from my LLMD (March of this year) "You're NOT crazy...it's been the Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella all along." That damn tick!
Wow...sorry this post it so long...went off on a tangent! ~LymeFighter
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by tic chick (Member # 9156) on :
Rash was called "necrobiosis lipoidica" by the duck I saw back in late 1980's. Not a bullseye but, was bit by unknown bug in woods (lower legs.) Not yet officially dx but Lyme sxs came on about ~4 years ago. Posted by terrirdls1 (Member # 9810) on :
No and i have no idea when I was bite and I know it was not from a tick. It must have been from a mosquito or someting else. terrirdls
Posted by StuckonLyme (Member # 8196) on :
YES, I still have a little white ring by my belly button that dosent tan where it bit me, its really weird. IT HAS A SMALL DOT IN THE MIDDLE.
Posted by cactus (Member # 7347) on :
No bullseye
Lots of other strange rashes, including "ringworm"... hmmm...
Posted by sarahinnewyork (Member # 7179) on :
no bullseye no rash
Posted by aiden424 (Member # 7633) on :
Yes, had a big bulls-eye rash on the top of my right foot. Never did see a tick. Doctor thought it might be Lyme but ELISA test came back negative, and was then told it was granuloma.
Kathy
Posted by concerned mother (Member # 8128) on :
son had no bulls eye rash but did have rash on back that looked like eczema.
Amy
Posted by lymelass (Member # 9610) on :
Yes, I had a rash. "This is not the kind of rash we worry about".
The 'handy dandy' reference guide has been used to discredit and deny me treatment on more than one occasion.
Every time I see that book being whipped from a pocket or little cubby hole I get that 'sinking feeling' of 'Here we go again'.
I never want to see a duck again for the rest of my life!!!
(Sorry, it's 5:00AM, I'm a tad emotional)
Posted by KENNEDY (Member # 9628) on :
Yes After 1-1/2 to 2 wks of backache, fatigue started and low grade fever, then taking a shower it stung my back so I did find a bulls-eye rash about 7 inches in diameter on shoulder / armpit area of my back. I wonder how many people say that they did'nt get a rash but had one where it's not easy to see. If I had taken a bath instead, I would have never known it was there. Even after I knew it was there it didn't bother me. Kennedy
Posted by luvmycat (Member # 4984) on :
No bite, no rash, only mysterious symptoms that piled up.
Posted by Nancy Feick (Member # 6311) on :
Sorry for the delay response. I Had 1" bullseye on left upper arm. Was told it was probably a spider bite. That is when my health went from good to bad overnight. given a basic Lyme test that was negative. Had a speckled titer pattern in blood that was positive. I Was told it was borderline Lupus/mixed connective tissue disease. That was almost 9 years ago. Only 2 1/2 years ago did I receive antibiotic treatment and feel the best I've felt in a long time. Still not perfect but, a lot better.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by avonrealtor (Member # 9845) on :
No rash here... I did have a very sore toe that got a lot worse after the abx started. Assuming that is the site of the bite....
Posted by Lymies3 (Member # 1598) on :
For myself, not that I've ever been aware of.
For son, not that we've ever been aware of.
For previous spouse, yes.
Posted by lymednva (Member # 9098) on :
No rash that I know of when bitten, but at least ten years later I had what a duck called "ringworm." Couldn't figure out how I could have gotten that!
Had another rash about six years ago, on my neck. Another duck made light of it. Finally dx'd at least 40 years after initial infection, spring 2006. Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Yes ,rash. Small on my arm.
Thought it was a spider bite Posted by CynBy (Member # 9957) on :
Yes Rash
Emanating from both bite sites at onset of bites, grew up from ankles to tops of thighs within 24 hours.
Also severe edema in feet occured concurrently
No Bulleyes
No Tick
I was bit by a flea
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nimzovich76: Very good topic TREE, even more interesting would be to see if there's any correlation with the test results.
up for weekend.
Thats the next part.I want get as mny of these responces as i can first shooting for 200 or more.
Posted by Andie333 (Member # 7370) on :
I had a rash, recognized it as a bulls-eye. Was treated with 15 days of abx.
The rash disappeared, and I assumed I was okay.
Nine years later, I found myself very very very sick. Acupuncturist suspected Lyme. First test via Qwest was negative.
Second Igenex test a month later was strong positive.
Andie
Posted by pq (Member # 6886) on :
rash = yes bullseye rash = no
Posted by ponygirl (Member # 10003) on :
bullseye yes
Posted by sometimesdilly (Member # 9982) on :
yes, a bullseye rash.
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Off so up for the weekenders Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by ma (Member # 10055) on :
no bullseye. yes rashes
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Posted by JillF (Member # 5553) on :
I have had a rash on the back of my head (under my hair) that was first noticed in 2000. No idea how long it had been there before that (I probably have had Lyme for over a decade now).
It's never gone away. It gets smaller, it's gets quite big. Usually doesn't bother me at all. It does seem that when my symptoms are worsening, the rash gets bigger.
The first few times I went to the doctor (way before I knew I was sick) they had no idea what it was and gave me different creams that never helped.
My LLMD has no idea what it is. It is not a bull's eye rash.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
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Posted by Geneal (Member # 10375) on :
No rash. Unusual reacations to mosquito bites though.
Geneal
Posted by TXKim (Member # 10146) on :
No
Posted by theviewfromthecurb (Member # 10310) on :
me: NO rash, NO bulls eye, NO bite. my son: NO rash, NO bulls eye, NO bite.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
Up for new ones.
Posted by KarenB (Member # 10510) on :
NO
Posted by Leonard (Member # 10531) on :
Knew I was bit by something.
Bulls-eye developed 10 days later.
Rash comes and goes from bite site every couple of weeks.
Leonard
Posted by notcrazykate (Member # 10458) on :
Not identified as being related to a bite or as lyme.
But I've had chronic "eczema" that is sometimes bullseye-ish for 5 years now.
Only thing that has made it go away for the past 2 years is Rx cortisone cream.
One doc treated it as ringworm... no improvement.
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
Yes, twice, on different ocassions: distinctive, classic bulls-eye rashes.
And a duck who insisted that it was an infected spider bite. My loss that I listened to the duck who said this, since they were supposed to be the expert!
Won't be fooled again!
Posted by Lioness (Member # 10655) on :
Not sure, if I did, it would have been dismissed as a spider bite (or something else)! Don't remember hearing much about Lyme back then.
Have had so many rashes, usually treated as something else, or let go to see if they would pass.
Growing up as a "Tom Boy" in the woods, on farms and with a parent who breads hunting dogs, I was not taken to the doctor for every bite and rash.
Who Knows!
It is amazing how many people DON'T get the "bulls eye"
[ 24. November 2006, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: Lioness ]
Posted by Julie2763 (Member # 2841) on :
Bullseye rach - oh yeah!!
Julie
Posted by JeffM (Member # 8919) on :
No.
Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
No bulls eye but got hives all over my legs. Anyone wlse have this?
Posted by zing (Member # 7124) on :
yes, bullseye- Covered my whole hip at least 10" diameter with 3" center
Posted by ashleygait (Member # 10398) on :
Yes--all over my body! Posted by Cheryll (Member # 10063) on :
Rash - yes Bulls eye - no
Geneal, I have since getting lyme been getting water blisters wherever mosquitos bite me!! What is your unusual reaction to mosquito bites??
BTW, mosquitos and ticks love me! I get their attention when everyone else says they have not seen a one!
Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
I am also curious how many people had a bulls eye rash but still have negative Western Blots? Wouldnt Drs notice that these tests are not reliable after getting negative results on a WB even with this bullseye rash???
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
Up for more.
Posted by KarenB (Member # 10510) on :
No rash at all for me that I could see.
Although I was bitten it the head so I don't know if I would have seen it.
I do know the sucker was imbedded in there pretty good.
karen
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Posted by Dianne (Member # 9450) on :
Rash - Yes, but not a bulls-eye.
In fact, it was a huge red sore spot on my breast that looked more like a burn, raw and painful, and was referred to by one doc as an "abcess" and by another as "cellulitis".
The skin "died" over a period of 5 to 6 months and had to be surgically debrided. They also thought it was most likely a spider bite so I was only treated short-term with abx and all Lyme tests done over the past 3 and a half years were negative, until I got tested by IGeneX.
Until yesterday, I had a diagnosis of fibro. Now I'm an official Lymie.
Oops, sorry, this was supposed to be a simple Yes or No answer. Posted by grace1 (Member # 10347) on :
yes, bullseye rash, and a tick. but didn't realize it was a tick and the rash was related until later.
quote:Originally posted by LisaS: I am also curious how many people had a bulls eye rash but still have negative Western Blots? Wouldnt Drs notice that these tests are not reliable after getting negative results on a WB even with this bullseye rash???
unless the doctor saw the rash, they can doubt you. even if they saw the rash, they can say or think it's not the lyme rash. and a negative test would just make them more confident in their judgement. instead of the other way around.
Posted by Cassie (Member # 2106) on :
Yes, in 1988, dx 2001 round and nasty in the middle, duck said it was a spider bite
Your friend Cassie Posted by catalysT (Member # 10786) on :
Yes and No. I was not aware of a tick, but I had a bulls-eye on my arm. Then I had bulls-eye rashes that tiled across my entire body from below my neck! My doctor spazzed when he saw it, he called the nurse in and they were both amazed by how many I had.
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
Daughter has Bartonella straea...verticle red streaks that look like stretch marks. Mostly on abdomen, waist, and back of knees.
They are fading with treatment
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
UP FUR MORE
Posted by Ganjagal (Member # 11095) on :
Yes but it wasn't a bullseye. 4 days after one PA said "Nah, that's not a tick bite" I showed up to see the other PA with 10 spots all over, an 11th one sprouted while I was in the office. Still took two and a half months to get a Lyme test. Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Tree, looks like you pulled this thread out of retirement...very interesting read...seems like it didn't matter whether there was the bull's eye rash or not, since the ducks didn't seem to recognize the issue even when there was a rash.
For me, no rash. No symptoms whatsoever for three months, then started with sore shoulder muscles.
The place in my foot where the tick bit me develops a keratosis(hard plug) all the time, and has been scraped by podiatry interns for 25 years. I never understood why until last year when I got diagnosed.
This is the odd thing about Lyme -- no one seems to have a clue about symptoms. This needs to change. I am doing my part to inform medical people here.
Posted by Got Lyme? (Member # 11109) on :
Bullseye - YES Rash - NO Tick sighting - NO 2001 - had upper respitory infections and breathing problems and terrible knee pain. Doctors were no help. 2004 - bullseye on thigh. Doctor gave 21 days of amox same day. Said it was a spider bite since ticks aren't out Oct!! Been sick and gone downhill ever since. Lyme tests - never positive LLMD - found a great one and am doing much much better...walking normal again and no brain fog is fantastic!
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Posted by Skyler (Member # 11549) on :
NO
Posted by Vanilla (Member # 11155) on :
Yes to a bulls eye in the early 1990's and I never saw the tick. I was so messed up with neuro symptoms I did not know to get in a car and find a doctor.
I stayed in bed and went crazy instead with anxiety and panic attacks and a brain that no longer seemed to function.. when I did finally go to see ducks and shrinks none of them cared one bit when I told them about my rash or that I thought maybe I had LD.
To me at the time my bulls eye was something really strange and alien that did not seem real because nothing was making sense anymore.
I thought it might be a spider bite but I was in such a state I was not really reasoning well or thinking well. I did not understand that the rash had anything to do with my mental state. I just thought I was losing my mind.
My most recent bite May 31 of 2006 when I had already made an appointment to see my first LLMD for the first visit for my bite from the early 1990s and I was still waiting to get in to his office (with these gurus it can take weeks to see them) for the first visit. I received a red rash or about 3 rashes and found an adult tick crawling on my leg in my bed when I woke up in the a.m.
[ 12. May 2007, 02:24 AM: Message edited by: Vanilla ]
Posted by sienna (Member # 10980) on :
YES - but had disappeared by the following morning and I didn't think to take a photograph. I've had many more strange rashes since and now have photos of them all
Posted by ks mom (Member # 11626) on :
This may sound like a dumb question here, but I need to ask to satisfy the 1% of me that still doesnt get it.
According to the stuff I read on the CDC guidelines page, if you have the bullseye rash with the flulike symptoms then its definately Lyme?
IOW....if I lived in the middle of the woods in a rural heavily tick/chigger infested area, I get bit on a daily basis, 3 bites get a wierd rash, 1 gets the bullseye rash faintly, those bites take over 3 months to heal, I get all the flu stuff and a 104.5 temp that wont go away for days....then is it safe to assume that its Lyme? I mean there is NO other disease or whatever that would make the bullseye under THOSE conditions?
Signed, A very angry mom
Posted by ks mom (Member # 11626) on :
I feel the need to clarify since this is my first time posting. The situation I described was my son at the age of 1.5 .He will turn 11 in May.
The area we lived in had 12 known cases of lyme and 1 death from lyme. Dozens of arthritis cases and 1 HMO approved duck for the whole area.
Duck said the syptoms and rash had to happen hours, not days, we therefore did not have lyme. Just a nasty bug bite.
ks mom
Posted by listenswithcare (Member # 10719) on :
Saw tick - no rash, no bullseye ever
Posted by savebabe (Member # 9847) on :
No--No Rash
Posted by marie (Member # 3980) on :
YES
Posted by Mr. Tom (Member # 9581) on :
NO
Posted by calimar (Member # 11655) on :
Yes. It came and went three time, getting larger and expanding over 2 or 3 days each time. The third time, the time I was diagnosed, was the largest. It expanded to about 8"x3". All three had very faint central clearing.
Posted by tory2457 (Member # 10384) on :
NO
Only a feeling of a hot swollen instep in my teens. It went away, and nothing further was thought about it.
then at 30 a MS diagnosis!
that was 20 years ago.
Posted by lyme lady (Member # 11208) on :
I had no bullseye rash, but a week later, I was covered from head to toe in a hive like rash.
I did fine the tick on me.
Posted by pippifern (Member # 11564) on :
Yes; I had a bullseye following a tick bite.
Showed it to several people, including a very Lyme savvy high school science teacher at the high school where I worked. All concurred. Went to PCP, suspecting Lyme, the nurse didn't even bother to look at it when I suggested she do; they didn't do a Lyme test, but did send the tick out for analysis--came back negative. They prescribed three days worth of ABX "as a precaution" Little did I know that the bullseye was such a clear indicator of Lyme infection! I wanted to believe I only needed a "precaution".
A year later, due to severe knee pain and swelling, they did do Lyme testing which came back positive. So I am in late stage Lyme, and early stage treatment. Just before the 21 days on ABX were up, I went to an LLMD, who gave me another 21 day prescription, and ordered lots of tests for coinfections. I am waiting on the results of those. LLMD also speculates that I was infected long ago, as well as a more recent infection. This is likely, since my house is completely surrounded by woods, where my dogs and I have walked for 25 years.
Mine is a good case of "I wish I knew then what I know now." sigh.
pippifern
Posted by livinlyme (Member # 3773) on :
RAsh from a tick .. NO
but I can tell you I had rashes on almost every part of my body and in places I don't see hardly.. they can be itchy or not.. they can be scaley or not.. flaky burning.. large or small.. but they have been there and they don't go away too easily.. but if you are talking about a bulls eye rash NEVER.. out of the 7 members in my family with Lyme only one member had a bullseye rash..
hoep this helps.. and might I add: I was the only one in the family who showed a positive ELSIA also.. I was also the only one who had to go on ABX for chronic sinus infections.. and after running some MRI of my sinus cavity they found I do not have sinus infections ..my cavity was clear.. even though ym nose was always stuffed and I always appeared to have "junky" congestion to lead them to think I had pneumonia but the film showed NOTHING There!!!
so they refuse to treat with antibiotics after that
TG I was DX'd with Lyme shortly after this or I may not have had orals and I would no longer be alive....
Medical field is so not in agreement with much and they are still proving they are wrong in statements they swore were correct 20 years ago.. they find they are wrong 20 years later.. And we are supposed to trust these people to treat us???
I think not, therefore I am!
Now think about that statement for a few minutes.
I think not, therefore I am...
I am lost in a mirage of misconception and that statement can be taken in so many different ways.. from the very negative to the somewhat positive.. depending on how you look at it..
It may become a lyme linked quote in the not too distant future... LOL lets see if I can get a trend going here...
Posted by hopeful123 (Member # 3244) on :
saw a rash, but didn't know it was from a tick and that i might have lyme. until quite a few years later when a lot of damage had already been done.
Posted by Texas TixanDar Dar (Member # 11865) on :
YES-&NO, Back in 1992, I neaver knew I was bit. By anything, but ran out of strength within 2 weeks, and barely able to work till noon, and I had the big'est half to go yeat.
I hauled Gas and Diesel Fuel,and filed Cat's, and big road Equ. after 5.
2nd tick in 1997 April, Yes. Left of belly-botton. Bull's Eye the size of a LARGE Pancake.
3rd Tick,in May, side of my right foot, No sign at all. Just a little black mark. Deer Tick.
4-&-5th Tick, Kinda. Left Foot, and Other Place, had sowllen up 3 time's of normal.
Tick from last Month Top of my left leg, Small Bull's Eye. About 2" across. Itch like the dickins too. Tex OuT ! Posted by lymeladyinNY (Member # 10235) on :
Got a huge, itchy, raised bull's-eye rash around my navel on my 9-month's pregnant belly.
Ob-gyn wasn't worried a bit.
Posted by livinlyme (Member # 3773) on :
well this tells you that some ticks with different strains of Bb will develope a rash and most won't
I would think eh?! Posted by Munch (Member # 11323) on :
Bullseye rash: NO
Baseball sized red rash with insect bite mark in center: Yes in 2001 after a camping trip.
Other skin rashes: Yes possible ACA. 6 months after a trip to the Ozarks in 1969 it looked like my hands were dipped in battery acid. The rash never healed with hydrocortisone but responded to the ABX I was given for chronic ear infections.
Posted by dlp252 (Member # 10711) on :
I do not remember a bite or a rash. Posted by mrsdizzy (Member # 11690) on :
Tickbite: Yes Rash: I don't know really. It was on the back of my neck on my hairline. Other Rashes: Yes
Posted by buggedbylyme (Member # 9556) on :
yes bullseye mid-80's Ohio
Posted by MamaWolf (Member # 10578) on :
EM Rash... Yes (several times)
Posted by merrygirl (Member # 12041) on :
no-
no known tick bite. Weird rash on face after start of treatment
Posted by elle108 (Member # 11730) on :
tick bite yes em rash...no
Posted by Lymeblue (Member # 6897) on :
no rash
Posted by meg (Member # 22) on :
2nd tick bite a week ago.....no rash...not engorged. A bloody black spot on the back of my leg.
Had a red pimple like spot where I pulled it off. Pumped the abx--spot dissapeared.
Posted by Cheryll (Member # 10063) on :
I don't remember a tick bite at the time, but had an unusual rash on my leg two weeks before the symptoms hit me.
Posted by GenaD (Member # 11988) on :
Growing up on the East end of Long Island, I remember having lots of ticks--my dad always took them out of my hair.
I never saw a rash, though.
Posted by Raqual (Member # 12135) on :
Nope never had the bullseye. and I wore all the right clothing to not get bit,long socks long pants.
Posted by riverpatrol (Member # 12182) on :
No Rash.
Posted by HaplyCarlessdave (Member # 413) on :
Yes, I had a "bullseye" rash. The thing that was apparently unusual was that, though I had several deer ticks and one was engorged, the rash actually appeared around the point where there had been a dog tick. Thus the "duck brigade is WRONG about yet another thing...
As I say on my main page....., Here is a window on our 'nation'..'s pitiful health ...'care'.... 'system'..."..
DaveS
...Hmmm I can't figure out why the link isn't working... Ah well. take care! DaveS
Posted by P in NY (Member # 12613) on :
Yes.....EM's everywhere!
Posted by dmc (Member # 5102) on :
nope
Posted by tailz (Member # 10014) on :
No.
I did have some strange rashes though.
1985 - an itchy rash on my left forearm, diagnosed incorrectly as 'scabies' and later 'eczema' - a steroid cream cleared it up.
1989 - an itchy rash covering both ankles - no medication used.
I also don't believe I got this from ticks. I got mine from fleas and mosquitos. I DID remove fleas from me.
Posted by motownlyme (Member # 11485) on :
No bulls eye. Large round/oblong raised warm patches on legs. After starting ABX a "ghost ring" popped up on my chest.
Posted by danfan (Member # 12654) on :
Not a bulls eye but a 4 inch oblong, very hot & swollen area surrounding the bite. I assumed I'd left the head in when I pulled the tick out and had an infection. Took photos and used some neosporin & peroxide. Got so bad I couldn't walk and had to go to the doctor.
Other tick bites - no rashes.
Posted by pippifern (Member # 11564) on :
Yes; Clear bulls eye.
The nurse practitioner was uninterested in seeing it; treated me "as a precaution" for three days of ABX. My ignorance accepted this as appropriate, and was falsely relieved to know we 'caught it in time'. javascript:void(0)
A year later, and I'm in the thick of symptoms... took doxy for six weeks, and now 2 months later, some symptoms are returning, and I have an appointment scheduled with LLMD next month.
Posted by alliebridge (Member # 9103) on :
no rash
Posted by hostbody (Member # 12695) on :
no rash times 3 in my immediate family.
Posted by victoria (Member # 11267) on :
Yes.
I got a bulls eye rash on my arm and still managed to get misdiagnoised.
Posted by joalo (Member # 12752) on :
Nope
Posted by hanaliy (Member # 12825) on :
No - no rash, no tick, not aware of any tick bite either
Posted by Paula Carnes (Member # 10912) on :
Yes, one classic bull's eye rash after working in the garden in South Carolina. Never got sick, had a negative western blot so the doc decided it was a spider bite. We got dozens of tick bites in the 30 years we lived there and never figured out that we were getting gradually sicker and sicker.
Posted by MysteryGirl44 (Member # 10201) on :
No.
Posted by Dizzyygirll (Member # 3576) on :
No, no rash, just an "insect bite" of some sort.
Posted by lorima (Member # 11925) on :
No bull's eye. Several small "eczema" patches in various places over the years (maybe Lyme-related, maybe not.) (had Lyme 17 years before diagnosis!)
Posted by MysteryGirl44 (Member # 10201) on :
No.
Posted by radfaraf (Member # 11909) on :
no visual signs whatsoever.
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
No rash , but within a couple weeks of getting bitten, during the
entirety of
which I had been on the duck doxy protocol, I had gone neuro.
Posted by blazinglyme (Member # 13320) on :
Hi all,
I did not get a rash or bulls eye when I was first bitten, but I did see the tick and knew what it was!
Best wishes to all
Blazinglyme
Posted by Julie2763 (Member # 2841) on :
Yes, had the bullseye rash (thank the Lord)!!
Julie
Posted by ladycakes (Member # 12619) on :
No! At least not anywhere that I could see it.
Posted by Hissyfits (Member # 10195) on :
Me- No Daughter- Yes Father-In-Law- No
Posted by Gert (Member # 13584) on :
1995 broke out with 90% of my body in "hives" after a root canal.
Some where bullseyes and some not.
Some the size of dinner plates. Some lasted over 4 weeks and faded to bruise-like marks.
Some itched and some not. Some were hot and most were raised and red.
I still get a raised itchy whelt on my forehead in the same spot for the last 12 years. I also get them on my head, upper back and behind my ears.
I saw my family doctor, an allergist, a dermatologist, an immunologist at a leading hospital and no one ever suggested LD.
Now I have all the signs and symptoms. Had positive test in March 2006.
Posted by terrirdls1 (Member # 9810) on :
No bullseye. Had a rash more like exzema when I was young. but no bullseye. ??? most people that I talk to did not have any rash... terri
Posted by TexasLyme (Member # 11920) on :
NO bulls-eye rash Multiple tick bites over the years(50+), and strange rashes at different times, a connection?
Posted by BunkerHill (Member # 13523) on :
No
Posted by Noreen (Member # 12779) on :
No rash, no bullseye. But did go to doc to ask what this was. Diagnosis was probable tick bite. Was already on minocycline for skin so doc sent me on my way. Consequently, I never gave it another thought either. Just now found it in my records.
Posted by JulieF (Member # 13710) on :
No rash for me!
Posted by aiden424 (Member # 7633) on :
Yes, I got a huge rash on the top of my right foot two weeks after I got sick. It looked like ring worm. My doctor told me it was Granuloma Annular.(sp) I've seen pictures of Bart rash and I have that too.
Kathy
Posted by smithne (Member # 13823) on :
NO Bullseye Rash 6 Tick Bites on the back of my head. Rashes all over back of head & elbows but not bullseye.
Posted by disturbedme (Member # 12346) on :
No bullseye, but I have had other rashes.
Never saw a tick though.
Posted by pamoisondelune (Member # 11846) on :
No rash.
Never saw a tick.
But i was out in my garden from March to November for a decade, and so were the deer and mice!
Posted by cjnelson (Member # 12928) on :
YES!
Posted by Cassie (Member # 2106) on :
Hi Everyone, Yes
Take care your friend Cassie
Posted by daise (Member # 13622) on :
Yes, bulls-eye. Huge, covered half my thigh with clearing in the middle. Light pink.
But signs and symptoms suddenly, 9 years later.
Last 2 years, big brownish unformed rash on same thigh, off and on.
Daise
Posted by CD57 (Member # 11749) on :
YES. Back of thigh. Then a raised, itchy, solid rash for next 3 weeks. Slowly faded.
No symptoms until 10 years later.
Posted by kbholley (Member # 12938) on :
Yes, Bullseye, given 14 days doxy and told it was precautionary - that was in 2001 now its cronic. I also get weird rashes and welts on my neck and chest and legs. Drs not concerned
Posted by marcelle (Member # 13815) on :
No.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
Poll : Did you Have Rash OR Not From A Tick Bite /Rash Yes or Rash No Posted by laurie sm (Member # 14584) on :
No rash and do not remember a tick at all. I have no idea when the bugger did the damage. Got sick suddenly in June 07 and my life has stopped...
Posted by trish4 (Member # 14156) on :
Yes but it wasnt a bullseye. I had about 7 small circular rashes on butt area that went away in about a week. Thought nothing of it of course, even though I should have cause I have never EVER had anything on my skin; not even a pimple.
Posted by electrafoggy (Member # 13805) on :
I had erythema migrans around my neck every spring the last six years. I thought they were ring worm and treated with anti-fungal.
I had a round red and ichy rash near my arm pit that stayed for about a month.
Three mos. later was stung by a bee near that same arm pit and it turned into a long oval bulls-eye rash.(I felt it was providence giving a sign for the doctor to wake-up and believe me.)
After being on Doxy for 13 days I developed a subsequent bulls-eye bruise on my ankle that itched. My LLMD said it was a classic bulls-eye rash most likely indicating the original bite site under my sock. My son took a picture because he thought it was from a brown recluse.
I WISH I HAD PICTURES OF ALL MY RASHES. TAKE PICTURES!!!!! EVEN IF UNSURE IT IS LYME. EVEN IF IT IS FROM A BEE-STING THAT TURNED BULLS-EYE. TAKE PICTURES!!!!
foggy
Posted by gusgus260 (Member # 2120) on :
No Rash. I removed the tick. From O'Lean State Park in N Central FL.
Posted by gusgus260 (Member # 2120) on :
No Rash. I removed the tick. From O'Lean State Park in N Central FL.
Posted by tiger babii (Member # 15102) on :
No bullseye, but i did have a rash that looked like a big bruise.
Posted by 1tickedlady (Member # 14907) on :
One tick bite that I know of. No rash, no fevers - now 4 yrs later finally being diagnosed. Just having a blast-NOT!
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
no....nothing
Posted by carly (Member # 14810) on :
No rash, no tick bite that I noticed.
carly
Posted by njlymemom (Member # 15088) on :
4 lymies here - 2 of us had no rash, 1 had a rash that resembled poison ivy, and the 4th had the rash of erlich. (spots on legs) but no bulls eye
Posted by Kacy (Member # 18042) on :
Me- No Hubby- No
Both newly diagnosed.
Posted by DaveNJ (Member # 17362) on :
Nada...pulled the tick off...given one dose of Doxty...that worked out well:(
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
didn't read to see if i answered earlier.
NO BULLSEYE RASH; no tick seen! Posted by katc (Member # 17210) on :
No rash
Posted by Liz D (Member # 16739) on :
yes, but not at the tick bite. looked just like a dart board, saucer sized. I was proud of it (hah !) at the time because it was rather magnificent.
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