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Posted by dogmom2 (Member # 23822) on :
 
I don't have it now. I would like to live somewhere more isolated, but where i live that would mean propane heat/stove.

Need to get away from neighbors with hot tub that cycles day and night(why?, i have no idea). Asked them to turn it off at night, which they usually do, but when they forget, i suffer.

I can't take the stress of not knowing which day's they'll remember. It's not just the noise, i swear i can feel the vibration from it, and it's very agitating.

Not sure which would be worse what i'm dealing with now or propane.
 
Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :
 
I live in a house with propane tanks on the side (in suburbia, I found it very odd when I moved here!)

No issues whatsoever, just make sure the tank NEVER gets all the way empty- because then, it will emit a smell.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I can't tolerate any kind of gas, even a natural gas stove or fireplace - even if off . . . but some can. You might want to TEST IT OUT somehow before any major decisions are made.

As long as the gas supply is outside, that has a better chance to work, especially with added tips:

When using a gas stove of any kind, before turning on the burner, turn on the exhaust fan at high speed. Same with just before turning it off. This will help capture some of the excaping gas at those times.

Same for using a gas grill, even if outdoors, don't get too close as to breathe it in when turning on the gas. Hold breath, turn head away as best possible while still minding the start to the fire.

If purchasing a new grill, be mindful of where the starter button is in relation to how easy it will be to avoid that spurt of gas at lighting. The buttons on the front or side, nearer the front are best.

Back to an indoor gas stovetop, after the flame is established, the exhaust fan need not be on, or can be turned down as to not be so noisy.

Be sure the stove vents properly and is all equipment is in tip-top working order.

Every day, "air flush" all rooms of the home (on all levels) - all year long. Just for a minute or two.

Still, not everyone with MCS can "do" gas even with such care. Can you go visit someone for a week or so who has the kind of set-up as you have in mind?

Could you do most of your cooking out on a deck grill?

The gas water heater would also need to be a new design (newer valves allow less gas to escape) with the best ventilation possible and placed in a garage, if possible (if climate allows).
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Talk to the experts:

http://ciin.org/mcs.html

About MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities)

. . . Disorders of Porphyrinopathy . . .


http://ciin.org/

CIIN - Chemical Injury Information Network


http://www.ei-resource.org/columns/multiple-chemical-sensitivity/

Environmental Illness Resource


http://www.ehcd.com/

The Environmental Health Center - Dallas, Texas


http://lisanagy.com

Lisa Nagy, MD -

(She is NOT A LLMD, however, she understands the kind of toxicity issues faced by many with lyme. She did not have lyme but overcame very serious MCS. She spoke at the 2011 & 2012 annual ILADS conferences.)
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Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
i know i got really sick from one propane heater.. but i have had multiple propane appliances since then and do fine. they must be vented and hooked up correctly. and i think new helps. i have no problems now.

i had to decontaminate my house to get all kinds of other scents away that bothered me. use simple thing for cleaning now...and i am much better and fine with propane
 
Posted by dogmom2 (Member # 23822) on :
 
thanks for the tips and links. I don't know anyone where i could try it out. Seems between mcs,hyperacusis, and emf sensitivities, the places that are safe for me to live is dwindling.
 
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
For emf. Twice now in two different houses I picked the room that has the less emf and made it into my sanctuary I sleep there and relax there I only have one light and sometimes that's not plugged in. I usually have my cell pho its for safety I'm alone...but i keep it off. made the room with the most emf. The computer room the plugin kinds not wifi and it and it was close to the kitchen cuz fridge and microwave are bad with emf. I noticed I sleep so much better if I'm having a bad day I have that space to go into good luck
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Solar?
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