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Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
 
And NO its not a joke.

Found out my bad neck getting progressively worse

caused by recliner,,,no matter the angle.

A pillow or two changes the angle enough to make it bearable for now.

The headaches it causes makes sleep hard to come by

Excedrin takes it away long enough to go to work,,,but hate to use more for home and sleep needs.

Who would think a good Lazy boy recliner would cause such a fuss.

Guess I have to call a pain clinic to get it xrayed and mri'd so can get it surgically fixed

Regular doc just laughs at me. Says welcome to old age.

Tired of fighting it for 20 years

Dont let your recliner OR your bed pillows bite your neck!!!
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Q: "What to do when recliner bites your neck?"

Kick it to the curb. In full empathy and a bouquet of sympathy flowers for you, I strongly suggest getting that chair out of your life for good - and for the good of your body / your life.

No one should be using these kinds of recliners. The fancy marketing ploy has fooled us for a long time. The pretty people, the nice décor in their ad and their stores, etc. all a big trick.

Sadly, Lazy Boy is terrible for the spine / body. Those kinds of recliners are so terrible that even Crash Test Dummies who thought they were signing up for "light duty" revolted - that why the soft recliner industry buried that study.

To this day, those are excluded from all contracts for the "Crash Test Dummy" union.


The only good recliner I found in a major search years ago is by Ekornes called Stressless. My D.O. suggested it. Found two on Craigslist, and - after ten years with me - they still are a good as the day the first owner bought them.

Yes, new and even used, it's expensive. But it is not at all when one's very body is considered. It is the best investment I have ever made in my health and comfort.

I also tried a few cheaper knock-off / imitations. They hurt me deeply.

Only after I got Ekornes Stressless, did my back / neck even stand a chance of healing. After so many years in agony, sheer agony, that chair model is the most direct influence on lower back / neck being okay.

I also have a high back desk chair with an excellent lumbar and neck support. And with wheels, it tilts back . . . and with a my big plastic "tool box" under my desk, box up against a wall -- it's a great foot rest to take stress off lower back and I can massage feet on the curved lid corners.

the ability to move in a chair / to be able to adjust the angle in various ways at any time is important. The Ekornes Stressless also do that.
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[ 10-06-2016, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://www.ekornes.com/us

EKORNES

http://www.ekornes.com/us/stressless-recliners

EKORNES - SRESSLESS recliners / sofas

It's important to choose a style / size that fits, too. [Yes, most chair models comes in 3 sizes. Medium works best for the mid-range person]. The head rest on each model has a hidden soft trigger to "recline" it back as the seat goes way back.


Craigslist also often has dealers who are selling new / yet floor models for reduced prices.

Unless buying used from a private party, if you buy a new one (even if a floor model) also buy from a CERTIFIED EKORNES dealer. And check markings to be sure it is not counterfeit.


http://www.lifestylesfurniture.com/Comparing-Norwegian-Furniture-Brands-Ekornes-Hjellegjerde_ep_57-1.html

Ekornes Stressless & Fjords Hjellegjerde - scroll down for product design specifications.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Also excellent for the skeleton . . . but some of their models with solid placed neck area are only for tall people (terrible for those under about 5'10" . . . I'm 5'2" in my 3 month experience with one my neck always suffered) -

- and only the solid furniture model, not the lawn chair types - they are not as supportive as required other than for a little time under a tree in the summertime. I have a "true" lawn chair kind of this and it's just not enough lower back support for a chair to use each day for any amount of time.

Again, the true one, not the knock-offs. These are large yet wonderful for someone on the taller side. The neck does not adjust back - as with the other kind. And that's why it's harder for shorter folks. Putting a pillow under the neck is not enough for me, it's a strain.

This is great for lower back, just fabulous, though.

https://www.relaxtheback.com/recliners/zero-gravity.html

Zero Gravity Recliners – Human Touch PC-300 Perfect Chair
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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When my back was at its worst, this is the kind of heating pad used at my PT's office - and one I bought there. If a medial person prescribes this particular brand, it may be tax deductible, at least.

The cost is high, yet mine in going on 20 years now and still as good as new. So much better than the flimsy ones I've used throughout the years. This one really lets heat gently work for you. It makes its own moisture, so to speak.


http://www.thermophore.com/thermophore-heat-pad-large-model-055.html

Thermophore Moist Heat Pack - Size: 14 by 27 inches

http://www.thermophore.com/thermophore-classic.html

Thermophore® Deep-Heat™ products

are designed to deliver the kind of intense heat that can penetrate deeply to really bring you relief from pain, muscle cramps and stiffness for hours.

Our products stimulate your circulation to help remove toxins and increase the supply of rich, oxygenated nutrients that are available to damaged tissues. . . .
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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TRAUMEEL - they have two kinds of topical one is much more oily than the other and the two different names are bit comfusing. The milky white is more a lotion and will work better if you are to put on clothes a little while later.

The opaque one is oily and really hard to manage regarding clothing / bed linens.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Pain Rx, OTC products often mask the pain while also perpetuating it in some ways.

Not sure which strength Excedrin you take but it all contains acetaminophen and that can actually increase pain in various ways.

it won't allow toxins to move from body as it block glutathione in all the body's cells and especially in the liver. And liver stress can cause all kinds of pain throughout the body.

[Ibuprofen is hard on kidneys and causes all blood vessels in body to constrict so that has its downside, too.]


Injury [even if lower impact / over time] can cause toxic byproducts to accumulate in tissue. And, with lyme, most can't clear out toxins very well.

TUMERIC might work better for you, your liver, your tissues. If your gallbladder is in good shape, the strong extract of that, CURCUMIN capsules.

ENTERIC COATED PEPPERMINT gelcaps also exceeding good for body muscle release / pain relief.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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"Regular doc just laughs at me. Says welcome to old age." (end quote)

He is a seriously bad doctor and not at all doing his job. You should not be so easily dismissed.

You might see if your insurance covers a DO, doctor of osteopathy as I find most (not all by any means, though) are much better.


http://www.upledger.com/content.asp?id=26

UPLEDGER INSTITUTE (particular method)

CranioSacral Therapy

[this type is excellent for those with lyme as there is no sudden twisting of the spine or neck - which should never be done with someone who deals with lyme - an inflamed / infected spine should be handle with care]


http://www.upledger.com/findapractitioner.asp

FIND A THERAPIST trained in UPLEDGER TECHNIQUE (find one trained in cranial-sacral - they also have a deep belly technique so be sure of what the person is trained in).

Some Physical Therapists are also trained and may be covered by your insurance.
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Would it help to get a SMALL pillow under your neck so it balances things out?

I haven't been able to tolerate a recliner for years now. My husband has a new chair that is straight on the back. (it does recline)... No "pillow" on it .. I could send you a pic of it if you need it.

I didn't know if maybe you are in the market for a new one.

Hope you can get some relief from the pain. [Frown]
 
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
Years ago a pt showed me how to roll up a towel just the right size for my neck. It doesnt matter if im in recliner(i have many at this point) or bed or car it works the best. I hope you were joking about surgery
 
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
 
I have had issues with my back some, and also with my neck, when sleeping in couch/futon in a somewhat reclined position.

Fighting the acid reflux, it is a regular situation that I cannot just lay down to sleep too soon after dinner. Eventually, but I need to sleep on the couch/futon for some time too.

For my lower back, I do use a rolled up towel, just the right thickness and position in lower/mid back, and that helps a lot.

For my neck, I use a pillow that has the buckwheat hulls in them. For certain uses, these pillow are just great compared to regular pillows.

Regular pillows are somewhat flat, and give a little, but don't really support the head or neck, they don't "wrap around" much really at all.

Buckwheat hull pillows can be shaped each time you sit down and lean back and use them, to fit just so around your head/neck, and really support.

Not sure exactly your issue, but these things have been so great for me. I don't specifically have a lazyboy, but with futon and ottoman and buckwheat pillow and rolled up towel, am basically making a self-fitting lounge chair/bed.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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A futon and towels will offer much better support than a big fluffy chair. Chairs that have a lot of space and fluff to them can sure be enticing yet also deceptive.

The big arm rests are a big problem with the way they just don't "fit" most who use the typical recliners. A chair really needs to fit.

It was an expensive realization that took me a long time to reconcile to yet turned out to be very helpful.
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Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
our sofas have recliners at both ends. I use a pillow for myside when sitting but my neck tilts at a down angle.

I have yet to find a good pillow and ive tried them all. I have reflux,too, and have to sleep elevated.
 
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
 
Have you looked at xrays of your neck for whether it still has its curve? If so, that's a good thing.

If not, sometimes healthcare people like chiros and PTs show how to work with the neck to restore a curve. All depends on what's going on with us.
 


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