Hi Gang I so want to get this right. I will not take a RDNA one. like the Phiser one ,or maderna. So like the johnson and johnson one sounded better. Like there is a astra Zeneca one made with chimp immune cells. That one is a normal one. I am signed up to get the johnson and johnson one it is also a normal vaccine. CRAP I am looking at this wedsight. https://vaxxter.com/the-covid-vaccines-part-1/ MADDOG in confusion!!!! MAyBE none at all would be wise. Sylvie likes the astra Zeneca one ,she is a genius!.
Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
My polio shot came from chimps and gave me the stealth virus. MADDOG
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Listen to Dr Tenpenny.
VAERS data sets for COVID Vaccine Injuries can be found, downloaded and searched here.
VAERS report of injuries as of Feb. 4, 2021: 563 deaths – 12,697 injuries
VAERS report of injuries, as of Feb. 18, 2021: 1095 deaths – 19,907 injuries
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Covid deaths USA as of March 5: 522,000
Hmm. Which is riskier—-the vaccine or the disease?
Just saying ...
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
How many of those were actually from Covid? I know it's dangerous, but it's way over sold.
How many flu deaths this past winter? Virtually none.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
And there were not many flu deaths because more people than usual got the flu vaccine. People social distanced and wore face masks.
I don’t think covid is oversold. Probably the opposite.
Tutu—if I remember correctly your good friend was so sick from covid. I have known several who died from covid and several who are “long haulers.”
I would love to get the covid vaccine but the last vaccine I has was disastrous.
If you read the VAERS report in the covid vaccine a lot of the “injuries” were things like a headache etc. I read one report that said suicide after the vaccine from gunshot and listed the age as 1-2 years. So, not all info is accurate.
Still, it is an individual decision that each needs to make. I respect your decision.
Blessings.
Posted by Ann-Ohio (Member # 44364) on :
That" Vaxxter" website is maintained by Tenpenny, who I could never take seriously.
From Wikipedia" "During the COVID-19 pandemic, Tenpenny advocated against the use of face coverings as a mitigation tool[7] despite scientific evidence in favour of their effectiveness.[8][9][10][11][12]
A Facebook page managed by Tenpenny was deactivated in December 2020 as part of the social network's efforts to reduce the amount of misinformation.[13]
Nevertheless, her Tenpenny Integrative Medical Center received a federal loan of $72,000 as part of the Paycheck Protection Program during the pandemic.[13]
In a February 2021 video, Tenpenny falsely stated that COVID-19 vaccines cause death and autoimmune diseases, saying
"Some people are going to die from the vaccine directly, but a large number of people are going to start getting horribly sick and get all kinds of autoimmune diseases, 42 days to maybe a year out."
However, there is no evidence to suggest that COVID-19 vaccines cause autoimmune diseases or death.[14]"
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
To MADDOG
Just spotted this and thought it might be of use to you. It is a LONG and COMPLICATED read to be sure, sorry. Hope it helps your research.
WOW One place says the JJ has a spike protein the other place says the phiser has it.
LOOKS LIKE BIG BUSINESS WANTING THE BUCKS. I NOW THINK I WILL NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE
FACE BOOK IS THE BIGGEST COMMUNIST PLACE ON THE INTERNET.
I have a ongoing battle with Facebook not wanting the truth out there. Some day i will hack the book and nuke them.
I pretty much just decided to NOT GET ANY VACCINE MADE BY RICH PEOPLE. MADDOG
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Hiker .. I think the number of cases is oversold. Too many were classified as Covid when they were actually other illnesses.
I do realize the disease is serious. Yes, my young friend nearly died .. or at least wished to.
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Guess who has been associated with Maderna in the past?
Fauci, Gates, Soros and Epstein.
Gives me the warm fuzzy feeling.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
BartendederB--Thanks for the article by Dr. H. Makes sense.
Tutu—I suggest you check your facts on Fauci, Gates, Soros and Epstein because they don’t really have anything to do with Moderna and that’s been proven.
Maddog, this explains how the J and J vaccine works.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Fact checkers .. meh ..
Interesting fact:
Fauci said exactly one year ago today that we didn't need to wear masks.
Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
Thanks Hiker I think i like the Johnson and Johnson one better again. A person i know near me had the Maderna one and got very sick . He will not take the second shot!!
His wife is going to try to get the Johnson and Johnson one. The whole Covid thing may still just be a hoax.
We live in the hardest of times since the great depression.
And lets all not forget our country let the Lyme bacteria escape. I will never forget Plumb Island!!! And mammoth cave national park agriculture lab,still in there in the park.
Oh lets all use poor kentucky people for research. Then ohio people who come there for vacation.
MADDOG
Posted by Ann-Ohio (Member # 44364) on :
Try telling all those families who lost a loved one to this horrible illness that it is just a hoax!
A fact is truth and I am grateful that there are people willing to try to sort out all the weirdness that is presented as true on the internet.
I am grateful for the good work Dr. Fauci has done through all this. I doubt that most people would have worn masks a year ago no matter who told them to.
Taking a break from this group, as the negativity is not healthy.
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ann-Ohio:
Taking a break from this group, as the negativity is not healthy.
With such a diverse group of people taking part in this group, I do hope we will continue to express different opinions and be able to argue their merits.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
So far, I've made it through by strengthening my immune system. I've taken daily up to 10 gms of Vit C, 5000 IU Vit D, a couple capsules of turmeric and capsules of Host Defense, a product with 17 dried mushrooms in a capsule - mushrooms are anti-viral.
Been out the entire time going to medical care, and I'm up to 5 negative tests now!
So I'm wondering whether it might be enough just to take natural immune-boosting supplements. I think a good multi vit/min would be a good idea as well.
Also to eat less sugar, since sugar slows down the immune system for hours. But I have eaten sugary foods along the way, so I think it's the immune boosting that's keeping me safe.
Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
Hi Ann I was wearing mask 3 years ago every winter for the flu.
I had bought a 20 pack of n95 mask a month before this started.
I am still using some of them.
Guess what,take the white mask,tape them up on the window in the sun.
The ultraviolet rays sterilize them!! MADDOG Is that cool or what?
Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
I have had 4 test no covid.
I do not know if it is real or not real,so i remain very careful.
I even use a ozone generator in my big tool box with the groceries in there to kill everything.
Only cans, bottles,and stuff in there that the ozone cant ruin.
When not frozen outside i wash everything off with a garden hose and a spray nozzle.
My hands are cracked from hand sanitizer.I make my own sometimes.
I just want this to not be real.
MADDOG
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
We all have different journeys and different opinions.
Posted by aklnwlf (Member # 5960) on :
I had an incremental Moderna vaccine for Covid yesterday. Since I have a mast cell disorder I had mine at my allergist's office and it was given in 3 separate doses of 10%, 30% then 60%. My arm was super sore that day I think for 3 shots instead of one.
I didn't have any reactions and worked out in the yard today.
I'm scheduled to have my second dose on April 19th and will have just one full dose shot since I had no adverse reactions to the vaccine.
Whatever you decide to do MD is the right choice for you.
Good luck!
Posted by MADDOG (Member # 18) on :
WOW aklnwlf I hope you are fine!!!!! I am to get the Johnson and Johnson one soon.
MADDOG
Posted by aklnwlf (Member # 5960) on :
I'm doing fine outside of overdoing it with yardwork.
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