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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
https://rumble.com/v1755wp-safe-and-effective-is-a-complete-and-utter-lie-these-shots-provide-negative.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
And I have a wooden nickel to sell you. And that wooden nickel will pay for a gallon of gas. [Big Grin]

And the doctor in the video was suspended from the hospital he worked in and ultimately resigned. Hmm.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
They surely wouldn't want him spreading the truth.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
The doctor gave no facts. He gave no data.

And yes, people who are vaccinated are getting sick and some die but not at the same rate as the unvaccinated.

However, unless the world gets vaccinated the virus will continue to mutate and evade the current vaccines.

Vaccines worked better against the original, Alpha and Delta than the omicron variants.

Covid is here to stay and we just need to be careful. But even being careful may not be enough.

I am thankful I have not had Covid, yet. and I pray daily that everyone on this website does not get it or does not get it again if they have had it.
 
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
 
I was at Urgent Care 3 days ago due to uncontrollable pain from herniated disks. I got there @ 9 am and they took into a back room within 5 minutes. On my way out, the waiting room was packed! No seats, people waiting outside.

As I was leaving, a man coming in asked me how long did I wait. I said not long but I got here in the morning. He said he just tested himself for covid at home and was positive. He called his primary and and they said to isolate. He wanted treatment because he said he wasn’t vaccinated and was scared.

On my way to my car, the parking lot was full and a woman parked next to me was throwing up over the hood of her car. I asked if she was ok, she said she has never felt so bad in her life.

My county is the highest in the state with 589 active positive cases and the lowest in vaccination, as of last week. Parents fought the mask mandates in public schools even though kids are a walking Petri dish of germs.

I personally know people who have gotten covid twice.
If your county has high rates, PROTECT yourself!

Covid is still circulating and is still causing harm, disability’s and deaths. Practice safe social distancing, wash hands frequently, wear a mask in crowds and get vaccinated.

Today I woke up feeling horrible and took a covid test, it was negative. I think all the drama, lack of sleep and crying over my back caused me to crash physically.

Please do your part in keeping yourself and others safe.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
My county is also at a high level of covid.

This strains the health care system.

My friend with severe kidney stones whose kidney was bloated and bladder collapsed waited in the emergency room here yesterday for over 12 hours yesterday for surgery in part to so many Covid cases.

I am still convinced that after being with my Covid positive physical therapist (she didn’t know) for 45 minutes twice in a week that the only reason I didn’t get Covid was that we both wore masks.

Her case was mild in that she was out for 10 days but still fatigued when back at work. My balance therapist just returned to work after 3 weeks out with covid. She always gets horrible bronchitis each year and has asthma so her case was worse.

But neither needed to be hospitalized and I think a large part of that was that they were vaccinated.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
My husband and I are unvaccinated and will remain that way.

I think we both had the omicron (FLU) about 3 months ago. It was like a regular flu. We both have asthma and hubby has COPD.

He has had some residual problems, but we are fine and will remain so.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Lymetoo—Count yourself blessed that you weren’t really sick.
But you might have had influenza A which is going around. A friend of mine just got over that.

Not sure why you are calling Omicron the flu as it is a coronavirus or Covid 19 virus. It isn’t the flu.

And as you said your hubby has residual problems which I hope resolve soon.

I think if you get flu like or Covid like symptoms it is a good idea to get tested. That way if it is positive you can report it to the doctor and have it in your file. You want a record of it in case you become a long hauler. Otherwise insurance may not help with long haul symptoms.

Since you don’t believe Covid testing is accurate you would need an antibody test to see if you had antibodies to Covid. Althiugh those fade with time just like the effectiveness of the Covid vaccines fade with time.

Just remember you can get Covid more than once and there are new subvariants of omicron here now.

Life is precious and can change in a second as we all know from Lyme disease.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
WE have been tested for antibodies before and it was a low positive.

We will be tested again soon to check the levels.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Good idea, Lymetoo. Although the antibody type vary from variant to variant so even if you have some antibodies they may not work well against the newer variants.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I'm sure that is true.
 
Posted by norin (Member # 52378) on :
 
Lymetoo,

Numerous people in my neighborhood got the jab and weren't sick beforehand, but got ill shortly afterward. Don't know what all their test results were, but a few were negative (now positive). Sounds like the same thing that happens with Flu shot. I won't touch the stuff.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Everyone has to make up their own mind as to what they feel is best for them.

I see Moderna is coming out with a vaccine targeted against the early omicron variants but who knows how effective it be against the newer B4 & B5 omicron variants.

My friends who have had the vaccine haven’t gotten as sick as those who haven’t had the vaccine. And my nurse friend on the front lines tells me the majority of Covid patients who come to the hospital are not vaccinated.

I would like to see a study on how vaccines affect long haul Covid. Are there fewer cases of long haul covid if vaccinated?
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2021/dec/us-covid-19-vaccination-program-one-year-how-many-deaths-and


This shows effectiveness of Covid vaccine in USA. This article is a bit old but I think it shows a good picture of vaccinated vs. not vaccinated.
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
Everything coming out of DC from either/both parties is a lie. Everything.

Bill Gates is a eugenicist. He is on YouTube saying he can use vaccines to eliminate 10% of the world's population. Search Bill Gates Depopulation on YouTube.

Prince Phillip said he wants to come back as a virus that will wipe out the human population.

I wish you, all, well.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Prince Philip said this in 1988. Perhaps he changed his mind prior to his death.

I guess I am not all about fear mongering.

Stay safe and may your day be full of joy. I mean that sincerely.

Life is too short to live in fear.
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
Kennedys have been so important to the American people for decades. Why do you think RFK would put it all on the line and go public with being anti vaccinations. WHY would he do that? WHY was his book a number 1 best seller?

Today's vaccinations are not the vaccinations of the 1950s

Bill Gates is a eugenicist.
 
Posted by helloitsme (Member # 52600) on :
 
Agree grandmother. His father was big into eugenics. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Happy there's objection (finally) to him buying big swath of farmland too.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
Bill Gates has a #1 best selling novel about Climate Disaster which seems to be at odds with the idea that he is a eugenicist. Just because his dad is accused of being into eugenics doesn't mean Bill Gates is.


That being said, I do think anyone who buys up large plots of land that can be used for farming should be looked into.

And RFK is against all vaccines not just covid vaccines.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798/
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
I have seen Bill Gates say, years ago, on YouTube, that he can reduce the world's population by 10% with vaccines.

I didn't believe my ears so I played it several times. There was no mistaking what he meant.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
If you can find the Youtube, grandmother, I would like to see it. Thanks.
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7l

on youtube
Innovating To Zero! Bill Gates Ted Talk

You have to search for it. The link says Video
unavailable but it's available if you search for it. It's a very famous video.
 
Posted by helloitsme (Member # 52600) on :
 
I knew they'd scratch this one grandmother. I actually saved it months back & it won't work now.
 
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
 
https://singjupost.com/innovating-to-zero-bill-gates-full-
transcript/

https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_innovating_to_zero

Here is the transcript and the YouTube. Gates is talking about bringing down the level of CO2 to slow climate change.

He talks about reproductive services to reduce the SPEED of population growth. That could be birth control etc. He is not talking about killing people. Slowing the speed of population growth would reduce CO2.

He is talking about the slowing the rate at which a population grows to make the population more healthy and less poor.

Read the following: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-video-targets-gates-with-old-clip-misleading-edit/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/11/02/the-second-coming-of-bill-gates/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/11/blog-posting/bill-gates-didnt-say-he-wanted-use-vaccines-reduce/

So, as I see it Gates wants to save people from disease with vaccines not kill them. The Forbes article discusses the number of lives saved through vaccines (not talking about Covid vaccines)

He wants healthier children and if kids are healthy poor families might not have so many kids and focus on the healthy ones. His words have been taken out of context.

And I am not even a Bill Gates fan, but I don’t believe he is a eugenicist.
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
www.rumble.com/v19o4k7-hello-useless-eater-bgpuppetshot.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=9

This is not BG, himself, but I believe it is a fair representation.

[ 06-26-2022, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: grandmother ]
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
hello
If you search it, it comes up.
I use duckduckgo
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Evil man .. and he is toast.
 
Posted by grandmother (Member # 19908) on :
 
Greg Hunter on USAwatchdog.com interviews Dr David Martin about the "vaccine" that is really a genocidal bioweapon. Great interview.
www.rumble.com/c/usawatchdog

[ 06-29-2022, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: grandmother ]
 


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