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Posted by usyankee (Member # 16173) on :
 
Are you aware that there are 300 species of Bb (Borrelia Burgdorferi) in the world, 100 of
them alone in America, but the species that they test on the Western Blot is a GERMAN species?

Are you aware that they try to deny that late stage Lyme exists, and conveniently remove two of the specific bands on the test, Osp A and Osp B?

That Osp A (one of the late stage Lyme bands on the Western Blot), despite their trying to claim there is NO SUCH THING as late Lyme, they use that very same band, Osp A for their Lymex vaccinations?

That the CDC says Lymex was removed because of lack of demand when in fact it was GIVING people Lyme symptoms? Yes, Osp A, specific to late stage Lyme that "doesn't exist" yet in their vaccination causes Lyme symptoms!

That they deny that -- despite Plum Island situated only 10 miles south of Lyme, CT where
Lyme originated and where there is the highest risk of Lyme-- that they don't study Lyme or
test the public unbeknownst to them, but they admit they are now studying it in their new
biolab in Colorado?

http://www.greeleytribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071003/NEWS/110020127&te...

That because the Western Blot is so unreliable, that even according to the CDC Lyme is supposed to be diagnosed clinically, and not by the Blot?

That fibromyalgia is now thought to be late stage Lyme disease? (see the book, Cure Unknown by Pamela Weintraub)

That ticks that cause Lyme is known to also have --in addition to many other co infections--
3 mycoplasmas: m. fermantans, m. pneumoniae, genitalium?

And the US has patents for mycoplasmas?

Here's one,US PATENT NO. 5,242,820:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,242,820.PN.&OS=PN/5,242,820&RS=PN/5,242,820

That fibromyalgia is now known to have those same 3 mycoplasmas?

Despite their denial of what or how fibromyalgia exists, or the fact that studies show it starts in the same way as Lyme (trauma including car accidents and vaccinations) or that it is in fact late Lyme, a women in 2000 was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibrolyalgia, and was subsequently found to have been infected with three those SAME THREE specific mycoplasma organisms:

Mycoplasma fermantans, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, and Mycoplasma genitalium!

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2001_May/ai_73959334/print?tag=artBody;col1

She was treated, by the way, with olive leaf extract and subsequently had negative lab tests for those same mycoplasmas).

And that many who have Alzheimer's really have late stage Lyme disease and become 'cured' when given IV Rocephin, but then sometimes relapse with memory loss and confusion until treated again?

That many who have been thought to have "Alzheimer's" were found upon autopsy to have not only these plaques--similar to Lyme patients plaques found on MRI's-- during autopsy they have been found to have LIVE spriochetes in their brains?!

That they say Lyme is easy to find easy to treat, yet when curing animals for mycoplasmas that admit it is "Mycoplasma is very difficult to treat because many commonly used antibiotics do not work well."

That micoplasma bovis sounds similar to some common Lyme symptoms?

Here's a quote:
"Some calves with ... due to M. bovis will develop a severe arthritis two to four weeks later.

Different strains of M. bovis have different likelihoods of causing joint problems so some outbreaks have many lame calves while others have none.

Affected calves will have swollen joints that are so painful ... The carpus (knee) and stifle are the most commonly affected joints, but any joint can be involved.

The two most important factors in the treatment
of Mycoplasma are early recognition and prolonged treatment.

Calves treated early in the course of the disease respond fairly well. The need for longer treatment than usual for BRDC is underscored
by the fact that without extended therapy, 30 percent to 70 percent of the calves can relapse and require treatment again.

Each time a calf relapses it will have more lung damage and be less likely to recover. Current recommendations are to provide continuous therapeutic levels of antibiotics to calves with Mycoplasma pneumonia for 10 to 14 days.

That they will use the PCR (Polymer Chain Reaction) test for animals, but refuse to except the results when humans are tested by that type of test instead of the Western Blot?

That they use antibiotics for animals for our food consumption every day, including our
milk, and give antibiotics almost carelessly even giving them to patients who request them
for colds,

... even though they are a virus and not a bacteiria yet deny them to Lyme patients, and tell them it's all in their head?

Or that they never had Lyme seeing as one month of antibiotics would have cured them if it was, yet admit with cows that it's hard to treat?

That they admit when dealing with animals that unless antibiotics are given in high enough
doses for long periods of time, that they are only bacteriostatic, like a temporary birth
control for the bacteria, and they will relapse?

Francis A Boyle, in her article, Biowarfare and Terrorism, states, "Bush Sr., Cheney, General Colin Powell ... General Norman Schwarzkopf, and the rest of the U.S. military High Command inflicted a Nuremburg Crime on United States armed forces by forcing them to take these experimental medical vaccines in violation of the Nuremburg Code on Medical Experimentation."

In an article, ``Pentagon Bioweapons: Crimes Against Humanity, William Bowles writes, ``Boyle's short and impassioned book deals with the US government's illegal multi-billion dollar biological weapons programme. A program that as Boyle makes abundantly clear presents itself as "defensive" but of course, in order to produce a 'defense', requires the development of offensive bioweapons.

In fact, the penalties involved for engaging in even the research into biological weapons under US domestic law are life imprisonment and under certain circumstances, even the death penalty as well as impeachment for the president (followed rapidly one hopes by life imprisonment).

But not only does it deal with the illegal bioweapons programme initiated under the Reagan government, continued under Clinton and vastly expanded under the current regime, it reveals the linkage between the anthrax attack on Congress and 9-11;''

See: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=8&contentid=3280

Despite this, did you know that the government has the legal right to experiment on the military according the Ferres doctrine?

http://www.mvrd.org/index.cfm

That the government has a right to also experiment on US citizens?

The US CODE Title 50 chapter 32 � (Section) 1520, paragraph b, gives the US the right to experiment with any US citizen, not just military.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/usc_sec_50_00001512----000-.html

They can test 'human subjects' for biological and chemical agents for:

(1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity.

(2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents.

(3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control.


Under the common law doctrine of informed consent, as well as the due process clause in the Constitution you have the right to refuse medical treatment, including vaccinations.

If I give an injection to a patient despite their refusal, it is considered assault. However, do you have the right to withhold vaccinations for your child? If your children are not immunized, they can't go to school.

If they don't go to school, you go to jail. So in fact, you don't have the right to withhold vaccinations from your child, despite research hinting that they might cause autism or worse, death. The ``State's interests'' override your liberty rights.

Despite research that other additives to those vaccinations used to potentiate (increase) the effect, such as squalene or preservatives such as thermosol alone might make you or your child ill.

Refer to the article on the military use of squalene and its effects. It is also used in Tetanus vaccines.

http://www.gannett.com/go/newswatch/2005/archivedwebpages/twdwilmington012105.mht


You've seen the laws and articles I have given you. If you have any doubt the government won't allow this to happen, read this article regarding ``The History of the Development of AIDS'' and use this as a jumping board for your own research http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline

... as well as the book AIDS: The Crime Beyong Belief, by William L. C. Scott and Donald William Scott, and Osler's Web by Hillary Johnson.

That all polio vaccines between the dates of 1954 and 1963 were contaminated with the Simian virus SV40 and when mixing the dormant sv40 virus and asbestos can cause mesothelioma quickly instead of 30-50 years? (think post 9/11 workers)

That Lyme is very political, benefiting the CDC and other agencies, as well as the health insurance companies?

That doctors are given bonuses if they deny Lyme patients their needed treatment?

That there is no way the CDC can say there is no such thing as late stage Lyme disease because it hasn't been around long enough?

That there has been much speculation that Lyme may have originated in Syphillis another Spirochete?

That that is why they had those poor African American sharecroppers suffer for 12 odd years even though they already had the cure for syphilis because they were drawing their blood and tapping their spines for research?

What research? They already had a cure!

That Plum Island is now conveniently under "Homeland Security"?


Donna in Connecticut...Home of the Lyme....
 
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
If you want to know what I often wind up thinking about all this:

prisonplanet.com

endgamethemovie.com


I do believe its quite possible that there is a reliable Lyme cure that is being

withheld from the public.

[ 25. August 2008, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: adamm ]
 
Posted by [email protected] (Member # 17004) on :
 
Hi Donna! This is a great synopsis of the numerous crimes that are being committed. thank you for this and thanks for the links.

You may be interested in signing on to our LYME DISEASE MEDICAL DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

http://www.leaparizona.com/pressreleaselymedeclaration.htm

If you'd like to sign on, please email me privately at [email protected].
 
Posted by minimonkey (Member # 8693) on :
 
For the record... the Tuskegee experiment went on for 40 years, not 12! (1932-1972)
 
Posted by proudmom (Member # 15532) on :
 
Sure makes you wonder......were they really spraying for the med. fly in Calif. when I was Little???

How about DDT???? Floridated water??? It's not far fetched at all to believe that experimenting has been going on without our knowledge.

proudmom
 
Posted by minimonkey (Member # 8693) on :
 
Proudmom-

I remember the medfly spraying too, and have wondered about that myself!

A couple of other corrections to the above, in the name of accuracy:

The bands ommitted from the Western Blot CDC criteria are Osp A and Osp C (not B) -- and the vaccine was called "Lymerix" -- just being nitpicky.
 
Posted by adamm (Member # 11910) on :
 
Do a search for a video by the name of "The Chemical Dumbing Down of America."

We have absolutely no idea what we're capable of as a species
because, for at least the last century, the power elite
have been doing everything they can to blunt our intellects and weaken our resolves.
Giving us Lyme is just one more means to that end.
 
Posted by Angelica (Member # 15601) on :
 
I certainly do not think our government has our best interests in mind.

I wish they would tell us exactly how our President was treated for his Lyme disease.
 
Posted by daystar1952 (Member # 3255) on :
 
Thankyou everyone for speaking out. Many times people, such as myself , are labeled as conspiracy theorists. Many...not everyone.. who accuse people of this are actually using a counterintelligence tactic and are often trained to do this.

It is done when someone is getting too close to the truth. In a normal free speech society that we are supposed to have...it is logical and necessary to raise these kinds of questions. Please don't let anyone bully you out of your quest for the truth about Lyme disease.

Often, when someone is REALLY close to the truth, a person who is hired to monitor a discussion groups , will come back at the logical questioner several times in a row. That's when you know that the person posing the questions is too close to the truth
 


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