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Posted by jpsmom (Member # 23895) on :
This is about plum island, IDSA, govt, insurance .... & our personal families lyme story on & youtube
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Posted by hammond (Member # 32303) on :
Dear jpsmom,

Thank you for posting such an interesting video. I grew up in CT and was first diagnosed by Dr. Steer in 1986.

I think that B.B. was here before first contact. And I do not believe that the Plum Island experiments resulted in much more than 11th grade science relative to todays advances.

I assume that you have suffered from this bacteria and I respect you and you're struggles with this dreaded disease. But my research and experience has led me to believe that B.B. is not genetically altered and that like other pathogens, the key is to address the health of the host organism, including especially the digestive flaura of the host....... Scientific American March 2012 "Backseat drivers"

I hope that humanity and especially Americans will wake up to this epidemic.

I have lived and worked with successful movers and shakers in science in America. And it is my opinion that Plume Island theories do not help our cause.

Many highly educated individuals live in CT. Smart, aware individuals like Polly Murray.

But this does not mean that B.B. originated in CT.
Posted by paulieinct (Member # 17514) on :
The 3,000 year-old Iceman (prehistoric mummified cadaver found in the Alps) had Lyme Disease. DNA analysis showed 97% human and 3% Bb. You can watch the PBS video on the internet. Fascinating stuff.

What does this mean? It means Bb has been infecting humans for thousands of years. The Iceman was estimated to be in his 40's when he died. He had heart disease and arthritis. Heart disease? Yes, even though he ate a 100% organic diet with no processed foods and presumably got plenty of exercise.

He had small tattoos on his body which appeared to be placed on acupuncture points for pain relief. IMO, infection by Bb caused the Iceman's heart disease and arthritis, and is likely the cause of much chronic illness in modern man.

What happened in Old Lyme, CT back in the 1970's was, IMO, simply a cluster of a particular strain of Bb which presented with arthritic symptoms. Was Lyme Disease already in CT before that outbreak? Yes, but possibly different strains with different presentations. Individual cases were diagnosed according to symptom presentation as arthritis, MS, Lou Gehrig's, Parkinson's, epilepsy, gout, heart disease, depression, schizophrenia, etc.

I do believe that the proximity of Old Lyme to Plum Island is strongly suggestive of an accidental (or deliberate) release of ticks from the bioresearch facility. Security and precautions at the facility were notoriously lax. The ticks did not have to be 'weaponized"; they have always been an effective transmitter of disease pathogens.

I do not believe there was a lot of Bb in CT before the '60's or 70's, at least compared to the epidemic we have today. Most of the deer in CT were long gone by 1800 except for small pockets. It was in the late 1970's and 80's that the deer made a huge comeback, and with them, the ticks and Bb.

What the Iceman tells us is that not only has Bb been infecting humans for thousands of years, it has obviously at times been a fairly common affliction. Clearly, if the one cadaver we have been able to examine from the millions of that era had Bb, it must have been common at that time.

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