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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=20918195 Read this... For quite a while I was thinking I was treating babesia...well it turns out I suffer from an excess of osetrogen, and I bet, the majority of women here actually deal with that and NOT babesia!!! I guess you have endometriosis, (maybe diaphragmatic endometriosis...thus your stomach issues, bloating...with no apparent reason..), neck stiffness, tension headaches... but as soon as you add abx , argh, you think you herx...with no substantial result... well , then , if you try artemisinin, you feel better... guess what... artemisnin is tought to treat bas, actually, it decreases your level of oestrogen, and THAt is the KEY to this whole "lyme", "auto immune" , "hormonal" issues... I hope it helps thos of us for whom treatment is taking forever and all the money they have...look in the right direction please, it took me a LOT to find this out... Now I guess if you are menopaused, you probably do NOT suffer from what is called babesia....
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Lymeorsomething
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We'd all like a magic bullet but it's usually not as easy as this (although E2 can be an issue for both men and women).
Since lyme and co's can impact both hormone production and hormone use, the picture is much more convoluted than you make it sound.
Babs should not be overlooked especially in the presence of other co's and/or suspicious tests.
Good to see that there may be some other benefits from artemisinin use though....
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Doesn't make any sense to me. My babesia symptoms went away with treatment. So if it was really excessive estrogen I'd still be "sick."
(also had a positive test)
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BoxerMom
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Mine is Babesia. I meet every diagnostic criteria, including responding to treatment.
I do not have the hormonal issues that many patients get with Lyme and TBDs. Some women may require hormone therapy, but most of these problems resolve once the underlying infections are treated.
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well, there is a post right on this page about hormones vs relapse... so ladies, check your ostrogens... Menopause seems to mimic a relapse, so why not excess oestrogens? which is also a cause of endometriosis , which is frequent in lyme patients but also in non lyme patients... lack or excess?... Just like low serotonin causes similar symptoms as excessive serotonin... Hope it helps...
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nefferdun
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I thought my hot flashes were a hormone imbalance and did not believe I had babesia. I was wrong.
You can't get well when you have both Bb and Babs and you are not treating them both. I tested positive for Duncani which is resistant to treatment. If I had started treatment earlier, when I was not so sick, I believe I might be well now.
Babesia is very common. If you have lyme you almost always have at least one co-infection. Most women with hot flashes probably have a hormone imbalance but most women with lyme that have hot flashes should consider babesia.
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nefferdun, I am not saying that no one has babesia, I am just saying that for those who test negative to babs, and above all, those who do not respond to treatment, it might be a good idea to check into hormones... Again, that's the only reason why us, women, see our worsening of symptoms around our periods and seem way more affected by lyme than men... wheter it's with endometriosis, lupus, sjorgen or any other "auto immune" issues, what is called fibromyalgia, there clearly IS a hormonal difference between men and woman that explains the prevalence of those conditions... If it was only from infection, then obviously there should be no difference between men and women and the numbers should be equal...
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