Hambone
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I'm heading into my sixth month of abx's.
The past week I've been getting pain between the eyes, forehead, and what feels like severe eye strain.
Light is getting uncomfortable, and looking at a computer screen is getting downright painful.
Do you suppose this is from the treatment?
I've been sick for six years and this only began six months into treatment. If it were the disease itself, wouldn't this have manifested before I started treatment? Why now?
Co-infetions showing themselves?
I'd feel better thinking it's bacteria getting it's butt kicked, and not growing and rearing it's ugly head. Posts: 1142 | From South | Registered: Dec 2010
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lululymemom
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Are you treating Bart? This sounds alot like bart coming out, either as a herx or symptoms emerging.
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Hambone
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quote:Originally posted by lululymemom: Are you treating Bart? This sounds alot like bart coming out, either as a herx or symptoms emerging.
I actually stopped treating Bart. I was taking Bactrim DS and truly felt like I was going to die, so my LLMD told me to stop and, "Let's just beat down this Lyme load more for now."
My heels are killing me, now this eyeball/forehead pain, and abdominal pain that is just always there no matter what.
I tested negative for Bart, but my LLMD thinks I have it.
I just wish I knew for sure what is what. This is nuts. If I knew for absolute sure it was Bart, I think I could suck it up a little more and endure the torture of treating it.
But when do know when to pull back before the treatment kills you first?
Please send me some wisdom.
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lululymemom
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My daughter had a negative Bart test, but she has symptoms and has been treating naturally with Bar-1, Samento, Banderol, and Cumanda.. She is doing well on this combo..
I would suggest at the very least to incorporate some natural herbs for Bart. You sound like you're having all typical Bart symptoms.
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I've tested negative for bartonella three times, but I clearly have it. You have the classic symptoms of it, and bartonella comes back worse after you "wake it up" and then stop treatment. You're lucky the bartonella itself didn't end you in the hospital like it did me!
It's ferocious and WAY MORE IMPORTANT TO TREAT than Lyme. Bart replicates every 5-7 days; Lyme every 2-4 WEEKS. Which means the bart will bring you down a LOT quicker. You have to get that out of the way, because the time you're spending getting the Lyme levels down (which primarily occurs only when it's replicating during those 2-4 week intervals, that's just how antibiotics work) means that every 5-7 days, the bart is reproducing and getting stronger. And from experience I've learned that after you wake it up, it comes back twice as destructive.
I worry for you. Please don't make the mistake of NOT treating this beast, it can get so much worse than this.
What you do is start small. I'm on Rifampin right now and it truly is terrible, I understand the "I think I'm going to die" feeling; I get it about once a week while on treatment. The bart herxes are far worse than the Lyme herxes if you ask me... But you need to treat it. (By the way I didn't know I had bartonella until I started Lyme treatment, either. It's true that once you get the infection loads down, the other bugs surface.)
Best of luck to you
little olive
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