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Results of Lyme AB IGG test shows reactive A on bands 41 and 93. No reactive bands on IGM test side. I have a pic of rash I will try to post. Feeling some fatigue, and muscle soreness. Got bitten by ticks 3 times on wood clearing job in early June and rash showed mid July. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have been reading a lot.
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That's where my problem lies. On the description of the test results on the first line where it says which test was performed, Lyme AB (IGG) Western Blot the results state negative even though 2 bands of the 10 tested show reactive: bands 41kd and 93kd. None of the 3 IGM bands tested reactive. So the dr assistant said don't worry, your negative for Lyme. Should I take the results to another Dr? Thanks for your time.
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After expressing my concerns, the doctor supposedly reread my results. Said IGM was for recent infections, and IGG was for past infections. IGM showed no reactive bands so they conclude I do not have Lyme. I will post my request for a LLMD in appropriate area unless I am told otherwise. Thanks for your help.
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susank
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Perhaps you should try testing with the new direct Lyme test through Advanced Lab. Services?
-------------------- Pos.Bb culture 2012 Labcorp - no bands ever Igenex - Neg. 4 times With overall bands: IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39 IGG 41,58 IND: 39 Bart H IGG 40 Posts: 1613 | From Texas | Registered: Aug 2009
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quote:Originally posted by bc40ton: Said IGM was for recent infections, and IGG was for past infections. IGM showed no reactive bands so they conclude I do not have Lyme.
- This is not true with Lyme. Please print out and read this:
"With most infections, your immune system first forms IgM antibodies, then in about 2 to 4 weeks, you see IgG antibodies. In some infections, IgG antibodies may be detectable for years.
Because Borrelia burgdorferi is a chronic persistent infection that may last for decades, you would think patients with chronic symptoms would have positive IgG Western blots.
But actually, more IgM blots are positive in chronic borreliosis than IgG. Every time Borrelia burgdorferi reproduces itself, it may stimulate the immune system to form new IgM antibodies.
Some patients have both IgG and IgM blots positive. But if either the IgG or IgM blot is positive, overall it is a positive result.
Response to antibiotics is the same if either is positive, or both. Some antibodies against the borrelia are given more significance if they are IgG versus IgM, or vice versa." -- Dr C of MO
also... "Band 93: The DNA or genetic material of Borrelia burgdorferi."
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Please bear with me. I have not gone to the doctor yet because of financial problems. My tax return is due in so I can afford to go soon. Lymetoo sent me a list of LLMDs and I have one picked out. My question is, will he be able to use my original test results as stated in my earlier post a couple months back, or will he order another test? And will the test still show the same results?
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The LLMD will use the past test results and listen to your history. It is great that you have that photo. Be sure and show to your LLMD. Good luck to you. I hope you get to the Lyme doc soon.
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I went to the infectious disease LL Doc today and showed him the pic above and the lab results. He seemed a little confused and said the pic indeed looked like the bullseye easy of Lyme, but the test said negative. So all he could say was to take another test from a diff lab. So off to Labcorp I go, hopefully Monday. Will post results when they come in. Anyone know the price of WB tests from labcorp, without insurance. Thanks everyone.
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I am going to send you a private message.
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Please do not waste your money on Labcorp WB with no insurance. You need an Igenex WB that reports all bands. Save your money and get an appt with an LLMD. Any LL Dr who goes solely on lab results is not Lyme-literate. Lyme is a clinical diagnosis.
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quote:Originally posted by aperture: Please do not waste your money on Labcorp WB with no insurance. You need an Igenex WB that reports all bands. Save your money and get an appt with an LLMD. Any LL Dr who goes solely on lab results is not Lyme-literate. Lyme is a clinical diagnosis.
- Amen. Plus you showed him a pic of the rash??? That alone means Lyme.
A LabCorp WB MIGHT come back positive. MIGHT.
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I appreciate everyone's concern and insight. I have the weekend to read up and listen to your suggestions. The doc was surprised to see the neg results of the tests and asked if I had taken antibiotics for any other illness which I said no. It's been since early June now. But I will try to keep going forward. Thanks all.
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A bullseye rash IS LYME. He should know that.
You have band 93:
83: This is the DNA or genetic material of Borrelia burgdorferi. It is the same thing as the 93, based upon the medical literature. But laboratories vary in assigning significance to the 83 versus the 93.
93: The DNA or genetic material of Borrelia burgdorferi.
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I was curious and looked up the lab (advanced lab services) that susank mentioned in an above post about a new Lyme test. In it they ask the question below:
� Have symptoms and/or signs of active disease at the time of blood draw.
This bothers me as I do not know if I have symptoms of active disease. What if I called the doc I went to last Friday and ask if he would start treatment based on what he saw and the questions he asked, instead of another test? What would be or should be the start of treatment? Is there a standard treatment all the docs follow? Thanks again!
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I did write down and tell him my symptoms, its just I am sorta getting used to them. I am going to call him though, and ask for treatment without another test. See what they say. I will keep everyone updated. Thank you all for your help.
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Ok, went back to docs and chatted some, dropping my script for doxy off at pharmacy. Thanks to all helping me. Will post update unless all goes well. Thanks!
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