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I know there is a thread about this already...I have read though it but it's overwhelming with all the responses.
How many of you were "cured" from the rifing? I am scared to consider it,....but desperate at this point? Do you recommend it? Do I need Dr. approval?
Thanks!
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Rifing worked for me. I'm mostly symptom-free and live a normal, unhindered life, except for the time i have to spend doing maintenance rifing.
The symptoms build up, then i run the machine every few days and knock down the symptoms. I've been rifing, and off abx, for 2 1/2 years. I have fewer symptoms now than when i started.
You don't need a doctor's approval. Many doctors have never heard of rifing; you can teach them something!
Have you been on antibiotics? Is your bacterial load high or low? If you are heavily infected, you may be rifing for a long time in short doses, to minimize the herx or die-off reactions.
One terrific advantage of the rife machine is that you can rife for different coinfections as well as lyme,concurrently; whereas you couldn't take enough heavy medications to attack all your coinfections, probably, at the same time.
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Polly (is that your name or am I slow and it's some kind of quote? Lol), what machine do you have? I have a coil machine, and have never noticed any herxing or improvement from it at 432, 832, 570. Interestingly, I tried it on my son at 832 for his bart (has obvious bart streaks) for 3 mins. He had insomnia from it (couldn't sleep til 5am), which can be a herx. He has never had insomnia like this before.
So, I have seen proof that it works. Just not on me. I haven't treated my son again because he is afraid he won't be able to sleep, and miss school again. We are going to do it over the summer.
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Polly is a fake name, an alias. She tricked me too with that one. Her real name is Bicillin Diflucan.
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This is so interesting. I SOOOO badly want to feel better more than anything. Even if I have to do lifetime maintenance. I am going to ask my Dr. if she is familiar with this. In addition with my started treatment, I am only on immune boosting herbs and naturals. I have had horrible insomnia some nights, and others more extreme fatigue....so I guess this is a sign I am herxing? I don't know what a herx is or that I have ever had one...
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- You would not herx from herbs that are not directly addressing infection. But you can feel worse with some, for other reasons.
Be very cautious about "immune boosting herbs" as the immune system is already pretty toasted and worn out from being in overdrive for so long.
"Boosting" can destroy you - and create insomnia and worsen fatigue & actually worsen many symptoms.
"Support" - "Modulating" - or "Balance" is what it's about - not "boosting". We can't handle the "blast" that most "boosting" creates.
Best to see only ILADS educated lyme literate MD or ND (or similar). Only an ILADS educated doctor will understand the unique characteristics of lyme.
Most other doctors guess about this and they can get it so very wrong.
Do not follow advice from just any website for herbs, either. Again, advice for the general public may not work for someone with lyme.
Lyme changes so much about how the body works (or does not). -
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- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
& WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor (whether LLMD or LL ND, or both) -
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quote:Originally posted by seekhelp: Polly is a fake name, an alias. She tricked me too with that one. Her real name is Bicillin Diflucan.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
I am totally changing my name to The Flagyl Floozy.
You might google josha parker he has a different rife club but I have not looked to greatly into it just yet. Rather I have just been collecting and collating
Here is a short example. One email set out of many I enjoy
Here's the Bartonella Deactivation Sets:
Bartonella
Bartonella bacilliformis Bartonella bacilliformis is the etiologic agent of Carrion�s disease or Oroya fever(acute phase of infection) and Verruga peruanaor Peruvian wart(chronic phase of infection). The acute phase of the disease is a life threatening disease characterized by massive invasion of bartonella to human red blood cells and consequently an acute hemolysis and fever. If the infection is not treated the case fatality rate is 40 to 85% Patients in this phase of the infection can be complicated by overwhelming infections primarily by enterobacterias (Salmonella spp) and parasites (Toxoplasma gondii, Pneumocystis jirovecci). The chronic phase is characterized by benign eruptive lesions that are pruritic and bleeding, and other symptoms like malaise and osteoarticular pain. Bartonella can be isolated from blood cultures and secretion of the lesions in people from endemic areas.
Bartonella clarridgeiae Cat scratch disease (CSD) (also known as "Cat scratch fever", "Inoculation lymphoreticulosis", and "Subacute regional lymphadenitis") is a usually benign infectious disease caused by the intracellular bacterium Bartonella clarridgeiae.
Bartonella henselae Bartonella henselae, formerly Rochalim�a, is a proteobacterium that can cause bacteremia, endocarditis, bacillary angiomatosis, and peliosis hepatis. It is also the causative agent of cat-scratch disease(Bartonellosis) which, as the name suggests, occurs after a cat bite or scratch. The disease is characterized by lymphadenopathy (swelling of the lymph nodes) and fever.
Peliosis hepatis caused by B. henselae can occur alone or develop with cutaneous bacillary angiomatosisor bacteremia. Patients with peliosis hepatitis present with gastrointestinal symptoms, fever, chills, and an enlarged liver and spleen containing blood-filled cavities. This systemic disease is mostly seen in patients infected with HIV and other immunocompromised individuals.
Bartonella quintana Bartonella quintana, originally known as Rochalimaea quintana, and "Rickettsia quintana", is a microorganism that is transmitted by the human body louse. This microorganism is the caustative agent of trench fever. This bacteria resulted in over 1 million soldiers in Europe during World War I being infected with Trench Fever.
These are Genomic Harmonic Frequency Patterns. They are not meant to be converged or used in sweeps. All eight frequencies of the pattern should be ran at the same time with a 3.1mHz carrier wave.
Craig Ledwell OMD 10/11/2011
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Here's a post about Bart frequencies: Who stumbled upon 357? Any other Quintana frequencies?
D Bergy Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts) Member # 9984
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Those DNA frequencies can take you by surprise. The Bart one seems to hit pretty hard.
The one I am using for the MAP bacteria related to my Crohn's, is messing with me a lot. I have stopped using it for now, because of the gut pains it is causing, but will continue when I have a chance to be ill for a while.
I suspect the bacteria is inter cellular like its cousin Tuberculosis. There is going to be some suffering involved, but it gives me a shot at a cure, instead of the array of inadequate treatments for the disease.
CD there are tons of bart freq. to use recently I have been getting good die off from 842 664 967 1664 3328 6656 13312 840-842 sweep 848-850 sweep 844-846 sweep 842-844 sweep
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- SickLYme,
I know you said you've seen the discussion thread but wanted to post your question, separate from that.
For others to add to their links collections: --------------------------------------------------
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Seekhelp- too funny ! "Polly", thanks for taking the time to post al those frequencies! I will look into it. The maker of my machine believed that those basic frequencies were enough. I have seen the list on electroherbalism, but it's so hard to choose which ones. And, coil machines can only do one at a time, and not the higher frequencies.
I'm working on 4 hrs of sleep today, so brain is mush, but will reread your posts tomorrow. Thanks again. Posts: 418 | From NJ | Registered: Sep 2007
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amk33----
There are 2 reasons why you should use more different frequencies:
1) Resistance. You don't want a pathogen to get used to a single treatment, whether a drug or a frequency.
2) Effectiveness. Find something that works!
You said "have never noticed any herxing or improvement from it at 432, 832, 570." And you think they work??
That is ONE frequency each for lyme, Babs and Bart! You should really try 612 for lyme. Dan's wife and i don't respond at all to 432.
If you aren't herxing or improving, you really need to try more frequencies!
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SickLYme --- Sorry i diverted your thread.
I have a GB-4000 and i recommend it. There are other kinds.
The Doug coil that amk33 has is highly regarded. It's different. It's not a contact machine that you hook up to with wires, like the GB-4000. The Doug coil is an electromagnetic coil that you hold close to your body, that kills microbes with a magnetic field.
Springshowers has a BCX-Ultra which she likes, and there are other kinds.
Ask some more Q's!
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No, it's not working for me. But, I do believe my son herxed with 832. Bumping up, so I can get these frequencies recorded..
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Her real name is Bicillin Diflucan.
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