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Jamers
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Since starting parasite herbs and anti parasitic (daraprim) for Babesia I've had the following symptoms

Hot, sweaty
Back pain
Filmy, blurry vision
Vibrating crawling feeling
Tummy gas and grumbling
Tired�
Weak
Throbbing veins
Pressure headaches
Ear crackling
Shaky
Pain by liver
Depression
Cramps/ spotting
See Stars if stand up too quickly

This is nuts... Are the herbs hitting Babesia also? Should I go really slow and only do 1/2 the herb dose?

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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Jamers
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Up [Smile]

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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glm1111
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Which herbs are you taking? Sounds like you are hitting the parasites because they react strongly when attacked.

Start with half the dose and ramp up. No sense knocking yourself over the head. Just make sure you continue with the herbs for more than thirty days.

Gael

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PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
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P. S. The vibrating, crawling feeling is definitely the parasites.

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Thank you!! I am taking Hannah Kroeger combo. It's my first parasite regimen besides flagyl.

I also have paragone but this and the Kroeger combo are 15 day supplies. Should I switch them up every 15 days or does it matter?

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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Paragone is not that strong. You might want to try Parastroy next. Normally, a parasite cleanse is for 30 days, and parastroy recommends staying on it for 6 mos.

You can increase the parastroy to 3 caps each Para Rid and para Sweep 2 x a day after the 3rd week if tolerated. You can use the paragone sice you already have it, but it is milder than the Parastroy.

Gael

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So, every 30 days I should switch brands. Maybe parastroy next then humaworm then Hannah Kroeger and so on? Do this for at least 6 months?

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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I took Parastroy for almost a year...and added Hanna Kroeger Wormwood Combo along with Super Digestaway plant enzymes (also antiparasitic) extra cloves and HCL. I also do the salt/c protoocl.


RAMP UP SLOWLY if you do combine them. You can experiment with what you're comfortable with and what seems to work for you.

They basically all have similar herbs, just some have more, and some different. You have to look at the labels.

Gael

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Great! Thanks for all of the information [Smile]

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Diagnosed Pos. Lyme Nov. 17, 2010, Igx.
Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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Your welcome. Keep us posted.

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I have 95% of your symptoms to start with. lol. I wouldn't know what is what. [Frown]
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Seek,

Have you tried any antiparasitics lately?

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I've had the most action, twitches, vibrations, tremors with Kroeger Wormwood. My whole nervous system started to act up and I've even had slight tremors in my legs and arms. No ABX has been able to produce this strong of a response so far.

With all this activity, I feel so invaded. More than ever and this appeared to increase with ABX treatment. ABX does not appear to create major herxes for me, just migratory symptoms and feeling more invasive and more symptoms. The same symptoms that people without treatment are getting.

It almost feels like it has to be the parasites, since I've gotten some of my biggest responses from anti parasitics so far (GSE, Salt C, Wormwood, and Ivermectin).

My first hit with Salt C also gave me some bubbling and gurgling in my thoracic area.

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Wow!!!

The tremors were quieter today than the past 2 days and they just started up again suddenly tonight. My whole thoracic area is vibrating and it is radiating outwards to my arms.

My hands for the first time ever were twitching and shaking like those with Parkinson's disease. At times mildly and a few times violently, depending on my position.

I have not done wormwood, ivermectin, or Salt C for 3 days now, only the ABX.

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Me too Seek! These were my main symptoms. Doxy helped tremendously initially. Doxy gave me pressure headaches and this shaky, plugged into an electrical socket feeling.

Lymed-What infections were you diagnosed with? I have lyme, bart, and babs. I feel that vibrating, crawling feeling the most. Its mainly in my neck and skull but I feel it all over too.

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Pos. Babesia Duncani March 2011, Igx.
Clinical diagnosis for Bartonella

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I got bit in 1995 that I know and most likely again in my front/back yard if i had to venture a guess. Never had a bullseye

Local Labcorp shows no bands, Bart, or babs.

Igenex shows 2 bands and no Bart or Babs. High EBV titiers for past infection and high M Pneumonia titers.

In just 2 houses my house and the one next door, 5 people got bit by deer ticks and no one had bullseye. The two houses across the street from me 2 of those people got bullseyes.

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