Kudzuslipper
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Another deep thought about our common enemy. Do you think denial could actually be caused by the spirochetes... A defense mechanism... To keep you from killing them right away... So they can embed deeper????
About a month ago I was doing yard work I was covered with Deep woods OFF thinking it overkill for my patch of green in suburbia.
the next day I saw what looked like a pimple on my neck. I didn't think anything of it. Well this pimple didn't respond to my usual methods. And about two weeks ago I noticed a faint red circle around it. I didn't even think tick! Thought irritated it. This circle grew to about the size of a dime... still no thought of Lyme, just annoyed that I have a big red spot on my neck.. I just kept covering it with foundation. Today I notice it is about the size of a nickel... Not bullseye except for the pimple/bite in the center. Today, I thought about my roving pains over the past month. My really bad, intense flare. My day of irrational crying in a meeting with 12 people and my boss (that hadn't happened for more than two years) And I thought... Could this have been a bite? Am I reinfected? Well I am going to my Dr. on Monday...
But this was a month of clueless denial... From some one who preaches to everyone I know to treat the bite! Don't wait! From someone who went through 2 years of misery treating--
I mean maybe it's not... I mean you can't treat every mosquito bite... Right? Denial or sensible?
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surprise
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Well it can be a fine line, what I hear you saying, between knowing everything we know, and also not spiraling down into it versus living life in front of you, trying to enjoy what's left.
At least I think that's what you are saying!
I do find yeast wants to thrive, just when it's about to leave, I crave foods to help it stay.
But what are you going to do? Get some Doxy? I think you and Dessert should move out by me in CA. Get out of endemic in your yard areas.
I recently had an experience with my daughter, it was fairly profound, and it led me to book a LLMD appt., after thinking being 'done' for her-- and then I wonder how long have I missed it?
But somebody must be looking out for us to have finally lit the burning bush (like your bullseye.) Have to think all the trials and previous treatments will make it easier.
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randibear
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oh no it's not denial. nope....
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I hear ya, Kudzu and surprise! I had yeast staring me in the face a few years ago and I listened to my clueless GI doctor instead.
And you are right, surprise .. just as we think we have a handle on it, we eat something we shouldn't. ARGGH!!
Kudzu... I hope it's not really a tick bite. I hope I hope I hope.
But .. at least you can get right on this and make it go away!
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Catgirl
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quote:Originally posted by Kudzuslipper: Do you think denial could actually be caused by the spirochetes...
100%. Something bit me and I thought it was a mosquito (yet I know better, and everything there is to know about ticks & lyme). Then a couple weeks later I felt bad. I thought I was having an unusually bad herx, but didn't really give it much thought. It wasn't until a month later I put two and two together. These things mess with our minds big time. That's how they can continue to live.
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GretaM
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Yes!
I think one of the Bb defense mechanisms is to invade the brain and cause so muc damage,
Our brain then is no longer our bodies defense mechanism.
I just realized I keep forgetting to take my herbs.
They were so effective ie herxed.
Why am I forgetting now?
Because I thing BB and bart affect that part of our brain.
I'm rambling but I am sorry you got bit again kudzu
My doc says any insect bite that causes inflammation CAN cause a flare of TBD.
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Razzle
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Yes, I've seen denial on a symptom list for Lyme.
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Judie
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Yes, but I think it may inability to think through what's actually going on.
When I was reinfected, I swear my brain just turned off (probably the spirochetes eating it).
It took me awhile to even think straight enough to realize the doctor I was seeing was NOT giving me proper Lyme treatment (this is after already having been through this before).
It took me another months to finally see the doctor who helped me with my Lyme initial infection.
I keep looking back at that time going, "What was I thinking????"
I guess I have to come to terms with I wasn't able to think straight at all back then.
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Kudzuslipper
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ok.... maybe denial... also maybe repression. And this is why I didn't want anymore abx....
went to my PCP this morning (love that she fit me in!) looked at my ring and said she didn't think it looked like a bullseye but gave me azythro and doxy for at least a month... flagyl to take on my usual flare weeks with it. Just to be safe and since I had a really bad flare the last 2 months.
I took my first dose of zyth and doxy at 12:30 today... at 3pm I started to feel dizzy. can zyth make you dizzy from one pill?
I know it can mess with your ears, but I was on it for months and months when I treated and was never dizzy. but this winter (thinking we would do a abx challenge to see if I herxed or felt better) I got dizzy while taking it after 3 weeks, But then it turned out I had a double ear infection.
she likes zyth cause she says it is proven that people become less resistant. (has anyone heard that before? ) and it worked for her chronic lyme and her son's.
so is dizziness, after one dose, a side effect, or a herx, or lyme? I have to admit, last night before the zyth, i was on the floor stretching and I got tiny hint of dizziness that went away. so maybe it is not related...
but should I continue?
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Razzle
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Yes - I got vertigo at the end of last September from one 50mg IV dose of Doxy...the vertigo hasn't stopped since.
I suspect the doxy stirred up Babesia or something...don't know.
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lymeboy
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Traumatic circumstances tend to carry a list of stages, an early one being denial. You've already gone through trauma with this Lyme insanity. MAJOR trauma. At least that is what I went through. Another bite would send me into a total panic. I would probably snap. Which is why I have to get the hell out of the northeast.
Anyway, I know if I was bit again, there's no telling what my brain would do. I just might shut down and shut it out. Maybe that is what you did.
It is common. When a loved one dies, we often do this, just shut down and push it aside until we're ready to accept.
Don't downplay how awful Lyme is. It's easily the worst thing that's ever happened to me. I'd trade a beating every day for a year to never have had it.... if that even makes sense!
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