Topic: did you see the report about alzheimers on 60 minutes? money available for mo
lpkayak
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More studies. They didnt mention Bb. I wonder what alan would say about the research they did. Some was interestung...he should get a chunk of that money
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Of course they never mentioned Bb. They are clueless.
What about "mo??"
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The mo was the word more but i ran out of space and couldnt correct cuz im.on phone
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Unfortunately, the rest of the world has no idea about bb's connection. It would have been great if they checked them for heavy metals too, but again it's probably too far out of their realm. Interesting about alcohol, coffee, etc though.
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Here's the link it's in two parts the alzheimers study is in the second part :
I think you have to consider the studies done by Al were probably on much younger brains. When you get to 90 plus, plaques may develop for other reasons than lyme. I noticed the said dementia increase every 5 years from 60 on. I think any brain younger than 65 may be due to lyme. Maybe there is a distinction to consider.
I wonder what would happen if the studies focused on folks taking a lot of proteolytic enzymes / harataki / guaifenesin herb and the affects on 90 year old brains. Vitamin E is not going to affect plaque, but the ones listed do.
The other question I would have is the ability to increase vitamin D production within the body. What would that show.
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lpkayak
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Guiefenison helps prevent alz?
I take a lot of that to keep chest clear
I saw a book once that said taking it would cure fibromyaalgia
All interesting
Did you see at the end there is money to continue study to answer questuons
It seems with alans studies being 100% it would be good enough to getmoney for him, to study more
I was taught when you do research part of the paper goes over relevant studies
HOW CAN THEY JUST IGNOR ALANS WORK?
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I did see the segment on 60 minutes last night on Alzheimer's via studying 90 yrs. old and over age group-
Basically, I thought it was ridiculous and depressing.
They found plaque build up in brains BOTH w/ Alzheimer's and without. They also showed evidence of persons who had dementia/Alzheimer's with no plaques really, but, missing 'spaces, forges' on folks who apparently had undetected mini strokes or slight seizures, causing these 'spaces or missing tissue areas' in the brain. Depressing!
Furthermore, okay, um, exercise is good, couple glasses of wine, 3 cups of coffee, dessert okay- sex probably too... y'know, live life man, and move around.
Well shoot, must be genetic, they say at the end. Right....ANOTHER genetic epidemic. Huh.
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What Al did was to culture for lyme on the brains he received. I guess these scientist in the video would have to do the same for 90 year old brains.
We don't know the answer because only two people have thought to culture for lyme. And most doctors wouldn't be in the loop unless it is in the NEJM.
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:-)
That would be a YEAAAAA UP!
D3w/K2.
The conversion of K to K2 is supposed to happen in the mitochondria...which aren't...
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lymie_in_md
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I wonder how we can get the mitochondria to start working -- I'll ponder the question for awhile.
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lpkayak
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There is a combo of supps that seem to help mitochondria
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Aside from the science of it all, I took notice of how all these 90-somethings, many of whom were doing extraordinarily well by anyone's standards, took considerable time out of their days to participate in this study.
I told my husband that if I was ever blessed to live nearly as long, I certainly would not spend my time taking subtests and such.
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I noticed no where was it mentioned/ asked if they got annual flu shots...the ones that still contain mercury. Hmmm. Or amalgam fillings.
And the 'plaque' always reminds me of yeast.
Hopefully they are getting paid for their time. And, they feel like they are helping.
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lpkayak
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Surprise a lot of those are onmy list but it seems alpha lipoic acud with them is key
If i buy supps separately i need good quality ones.
Andfor me it makes a huge difference...like turning on or off a switch...i notice it with energy, daytime sleepiness. Fogginess etc
There have been duscussions on this before and i have posted protocols if anyone wants to search...i cant for a few dsys at least
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It's criminal that CDC and their allies have contrived to suppress the evidence published by Dr MacDonald and Dr Miklossy showing that spirochaetes are a cause of Alzheimer's.
The latest work by Dr MacDonald has detected Borrelia burgdorferi in the hippocampus (memory-associated brain region) of victims of Alzheimer's using state-of-the-art DNA probe technology (Molecular Beacons).
Dr MacDonald described his work at the launch meeting of the Spirochaetal Alzheimer's Association (SAA) in London in June.
I have written a report of that meeting complete with photos of some of his slides from the presentation, which is here:
It's very sad that even Willy Burgdorfer was co-opted into trying to deny the reality of the Borrelia-Alzheimer's link. Afterwards, he apologised privately, but did not do what he should have done - retract what he had published.
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I keep wanting to believe this cover up, conspiracy stuff isnt happening but over and over it is just pushed in our face
Why? Money i guess. They get more rich keeping us sick. Right? THAT is SICK.
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Well, there are certainly financial interests involved in the Lyme Denial (Pharma, biotech , insurance interests etc). But they are secondary to the overriding interest of the US military (and its allies in other countries which are members of, or influenced by, NATO), which is covering up the facts because they consider them sensitive biowarfare issues.
Never mind how many millions are crippled or die as a result. (Did they care how many would be harmed by Agent Orange at the time?)
However it's probably best if we discuss that topic in one of the threads about it (I've started a couple recently on Medical), and just discuss Alzheimer's on this one, so that people know where to go to find each topic.
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"...We found over a ten-fold increased occurrence of AD when there is detectable evidence of spirochetal infection..."
Bacterial Infection and Alzheimer's Disease: A Meta-Analysis Journal of Alzheimer's Disease 2Sep 2014
Priya Maheshwari1, Guy D. Eslick1
1The Whiteley-Martin Research Centre, Discipline of Surgery, The University of Sydney, Nepean Hospital, Penrith, NSW, Australia Abstract
The possibility of an infectious etiology for Alzheimer's disease (AD) has been repeatedly postulated over the past three decades.
We provide the first meta-analysis to address the relationship between bacterial infection and AD. Studies examining the association between AD and spirochetal bacteria or Chlamydophila pneumoniae (Cpn) were identified through a systematic search of the databases MEDLINE, EMBASE, PubMed, and Google Scholar.
Data combined from 25 relevant, primarily case-control studies demonstrated a statistically significant association between AD and detectable evidence of infection of either bacterial group.
We found over a ten-fold increased occurrence of AD when there is detectable evidence of spirochetal infection (OR: 10.61; 95% CI: 3.38–33.29) and over a four-fold increased occurrence of AD in a conservative risk estimate (OR 4.45; 95% CI: 2.33–8.52).
We found over a five-fold increased occurrence of AD with Cpn infection (OR 5.66; 95% CI: 1.83–17.51). This study shows a strongly positive association between bacterial infection and AD. Further detailed investigation of the role of bacterial infection is warranted.
Journal Title - Journal of Alzheimer's Disease Article Title - Bacterial Infection and Alzheimer's Disease: A Meta-Analysis
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They are using Dr. MacDonald's research, and also that of others including Dr. Miklossy.
What these researchers have done is examined all the published studies where spirochaetes or Chlamydophila pneumoniae (formerly Chlamydia pnsumoniae) were found in Alzheimer's brain tissue, and then mathematically worked out the significance taking all the studies into account.
And as you can see, they conclude that Spirochaetes are VERY significant.
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