lpkayak
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Waybackwater.com
I wish i knew what the secret process is
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LisaK
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hmmm, sounds strangely interesting to me. keep us posted if you find out more.
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Keebler
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- They are not forthcoming with detail of ingredients or process that turned this water to gold (as that is price they are selling it).
It's in a plastic bottle. Toxic to us in so many ways - endocrine disruptors that can cause us harm.
They make claims about today's water not being the right KIND of water. Really? I could see if they suggest a water filter. I could see it if they suggested we get good nutrients so that we'll have all the electrolytes we need but
to offer a bottle of water in a plastic bottle for $40. and not even tell us what is in their water, it really has all the markings of a scam.
Anything in plastic, for starters, is not a good idea. But it's what in that that is the real puzzle and certainly nothing legitimate has been shown. I spent several minutes on their site and it's still a secret.
Drink water. 2-3 quarts a day. But no more than a glass at a time. Spread it out. Too much at once is very hard on the kidneys.
Get good nutrients from all kinds of vegetables & fruits & use sea salt on your really healthful foods. Get some movement several times a day. That's the recipe for good hydration.
Avoid ibuprofen as that can be very hard on the kidneys. Be mindful of other Rx, OTC, habits that can stress kidneys.
Avoid artificial dyes and other artificial ingredients due to their propensity to damage kidneys.
And have good liver support. If the liver is stressed, the kidneys have to take up the slack.
Consult with a naturopathic doctor or acupuncturist for additional information regarding kidney health. -
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LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. -
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Keebler
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- Rather than spend $40. on a secret bottle of what might just be water . . . please consider sending that money to an organization that helps drill wells in places where people have no access to drinking water - at all.
Much of the world, actually, has no access to potable water. But that can include places right here in the U.S. - especially in areas where fracking has poisoned water or drought is severe and communities are far from municipal water districts. -
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lpkayak
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It did say it eas ionized
I asked on here keeb cuz i thought maybe i missed something about process, but you seem to have read what i did
One thing is misleading tho
The one small bottle is 40. But you put 1 tablespoon into a gallon of filtered(clean) water and they have you start out drinking 2 oz morning and night
After a week up to 4 oz morning and night
Increase every week.to 12 oz first thing in morning -its suppised to do something to your stomach acidand it also says it crosses bbb and detixes brain
You can use treted water for tea, coffee, icecubes-lots of things including detix bath, foot soak(now that wouldvget expensive) and ear or eye drops
The chiro gave it to me...the one who adjusted me and turned in my thyroid
I immediately began losing weight and itsabout 7 weeks since i started and ive lost about 20#...Down 1-2 sizes
The water partseemed wierd to me. It says nothing on bottle about whats in it and how it was made
It isnt really expensive. I think the 40 bottle og concentrate makes 33 gallons of drinking water and you are supposed to drinkbat leastv24 oz a day
I kinda thought thevpoint was drinking water is really good for you...and ppl would be more apt to comply if they thought they had spent money on the water
Idk. Its hard for me to stop taking it tho when i have finally lost weight. For first time in ten years
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Keebler
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- Other than the fact the marketing is misleading in omissions, you have no idea what is really in there,
two things most suspect and potentially dangerous in what you report is the sudden weight loss
(with this as the only change and where the same amount of regular water in past has not had the same effect. Water can help us loose inflammation water puffiness but if a bottle does more than just our real water, something is off with that bottle)
and the difficulty in stopping it.
Blog page below by:
Stephen Lower B.A. Biochemistry, University of California, Berkeley Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, University of British Columbia (SFU Chemistry faculty: 1965-1999) E-mail Steve
"Since "retiring", I have continued to develop and maintain these Chemistry-related Web sites. . . . "
This nutty promotion serves up heaps of scientific-sounding nonsense that leave most other water-quackery hucksters far behind.
Wayback Water is the brainchild of one Dan Nelson who hawks this nostrum to the credulous multitudes via innumerable YouTube videos and “testimonial”-filled Web sites.
The basic Wayback schtick is that "the mineral elements that keep us alive are only effective when taken up in a [fictional] “unstable, re-metallic isotopic form”. (Never mind that anyone who has passed high-school chemistry knows that “unstable isotopes” are by definition radioactive!)
But not to worry! They go on to say that “all organisms use only the quantum waveform (i.e., frequency)” of these elements.
So what they claim to be selling is water into which these fictional “frequencies” have been implanted by a “proprietary laser encryption process” that raises the water to a “high quantum spin state”.
For those who are curious, these clowns helpfully explain that that the magical laser behind all this emits a special kind of light that “propagates in the inverse/reciprocal space-time realm of 5-space, i.e., a higher spatial dimension.
This derives a time-reversed particle wave running the laws of thermodynamics (2nd law/entropy) in reverse.” . . .
[(Paraphrased to read more kindly to those who may buy this): This premise of Wayback Water is] (quote) "scientific ignorance." (end quote)
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Keebler
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- If there is some reason you do not like your water, you might consider a really good countertop filter or a reverse osmosis filter system.
Environmental Working Group's website has a ratings & research page for all kinds of water filters, even the pitcher types, as to the composition of their casings and filters.
EWG's Water Filter Buying Guide - 2013 -
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lpkayak
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Ive had good filters but cant afford one now and the maintence is hard for me physically and financially
I got a C in high school science but a few things on the web site really did not look rught to me
This is not the only thing that caysed the weight loss
1. Hes a churipractor-he adjusted me
2. He gave me two homeopathics
3. He gave me 3 supplements(iodine, thrroid suppirt similar to armour, multi)
4. He told me coffee was poisoning me(by muscle testing)
5. The water
I have been obese for a long time and eat pretty heslthy. Im actuve for someone in and out of wheelchair and walker...but not compared to most ppl
I have also had two major surgeries in lastvtwo yrs and tht slowed me down. Im 100 lbs overweight now and lost about 30 lbs total-only 20 since i saw that doc.
He said it was mostly my thyroid and most of his tx is on thyroid
He also did some on brain
It could be staying onhis schedyle of water and later supplements with food is simple enough for me to follow...and by following it i dont forget to eat or drink as much water as i should
That is a prib l em.for me
Stipping coffee was huge for me. His assustant saud there is something about coffee that makes ppl gain weight
I dont put sugar in it but i do put half and half in it
On the mold sites there is a lot of talk that coffee is a moldy food. I didnt know that. I lovedy coffee and prepared for a real bad headache when i stopped it...but nothing happened
No headaches. ..no cravings
The doc told me it was all my thyroid and he fixed it so my body is working better and thats why i am losing
I did go to my oncologist to be sure it wasnt some cancer coming back and she saud no...and the weightloss was reallybgood for me
Its hard to think the weight loss is bad and i am really motivsted to do what the doc says
He retests me in 3 weeks and will probably change treatments
He was trained in germany. The water costs 25 cents a day i think. As long as i lose weight and get healthier i will probably go to this doc
I agree the water seems wierd. But that is not the only variable
I have been.obese 30 yrs now...since last baby...if i can change this i want to
Thank you so much for research you found
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The reason why Wayback water is important has nothing to do with ingredients as any are based on a homeopathic-basis so not really IN the water, but with the size of the H2O molecule.
There are two sizes on earth. The first and 97% of the water we drink is 1 micron in size (not scientific but imagine a basketball), the second and only 3% of water is .04 nanometer (imagine a ping pong ball compared to a basketball). The 1 micron sized H2O molecule cannot permeate the cell membrane. Therefore 97% of the water we drink will not hydrate us. It will irrigate us which is vital however is not the same as true hydration.
Each bottle produces 33+ gallons of mixed water which is what you ingest. You do not drink the water straight from the bottle. It is a concentrate and you use 1 Tablespoon of WBW to 1 gallon of spring water.
Regarding the bottle he does that to make it as affordable as possible to regular every day folks. He has increased the efficiency of the water over the last 11 years and has not raised the price.
Also most of the youtube stuff has been posted by other people not Dan and he has asked them to take those youtubes down but none have complied.
I hope this helps ya'll to understand that there is no huckstering occurring.
Thank you! ingrid
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Thyroid issues cause weight gain, using iodine increase thyroid function which is causing weight loss. Wayback water I have researched myself and drank it straight as a test. Nothing, my 15 year old niece same, nothing. It is reverse osmosis which funny is more dehydrating, so found more dehydration. If it was as worrisome as they say to drink it straight, it would require a warning label on the bottle. It's not magical, it's just expensive reverse osmosis water.
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I researched the Wayback water and drank it straight with my 15 year old niece as her friends sell it. It's just reverse osmosis water, no detox, no headaches, no problems other than being more dehydrated from the reverse osmosis. So it's nothing magical, just expensive if you don't research it. Another scientist researched and found same.
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OMG do people actually believe this wayback crap? I know people want answers for their health problems, but jeez... everyone should have a bit of common sense i would think...?
There is no such thing as different size water molecules. A water molecule is a water molecule. 2 parts hydrogen to 1 part oxygen. H2O. Its that simple. It doesnt magically grow or shrink.
Just get some clean filtered water and thats all you can do. Numerous good filters are available these days.
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