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Hi everyone,
Can someone please remind me what you should pair with stevia leaf extract? Something herbal? I am referring to the studies done by Dr. E.S. @ UNH in CT. My LLMD gave me the stevia leaf extract, but, the rest of my protocol targets Bart, only (and those meds aren't for spirochetes/Borrelia). Thank you all so much.

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Just use a tiny bit to sweeten your green or herbal tea, lemonade or limeade (with organic fruits) or put on your grapefruit.

If you use any non gluten grains, you can use to sweeten a morning oatmeal, amaranth, etc.

Typically, it does not affect blood sugar levels adversely. But that is with typical use.

I would not use it beyond food / tea / toothpaste applications as it's so very sweet that the brain could get very confused and there could be organ / system reactions as can happen with too much sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Too much sweetness could stress brain and pancreas & otherwise stress the metabolic support system.

If the brain senses too much sweet - too much of the time - it may go a little off kilter and make adjustments that would go even more off kilter.

I do use it throughout the day, just in with my tea.
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Stevia as potential biofilm "buster" is interesting (as in Sapi's work) still, don't go gung ho on that just yet.

If you looking for other things, right now, this is something very interesting and it's not going to saturate the body in sweetness:

ENTERIC COATED PEPPERMINT OIL / CINNAMON

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsnano.5b01696

ACS Nano. 2015 Aug 25;9(8):7775-82. doi: 10.1021/acsnano.5b01696. Epub 2015 Jun 25.

Nanoparticle-Stabilized Capsules for the Treatment of Bacterial Biofilms.

Excerpt:

Abstract

Bacterial biofilms are widely associated with persistent infections. High resistance to conventional antibiotics and prevalent virulence makes eliminating these bacterial communities challenging therapeutic targets.

We describe here the fabrication of a nanoparticle-stabilized capsule with a multicomponent core for the treatment of biofilms.

The peppermint oil and cinnamaldehyde combination that comprises the core of the capsules act as potent antimicrobial agents. . . .
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Save this space for links to an enteric coated peppermint oil & an allicin / cinnamon combination that I found the other day.

Allicin also has anti-biofilm properties

I lost my page on that, it's floating around my desktop somewhere. Check back a few hours from now. I'm rather toast right now.
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Thank you a ton, Keebler! Always ready and willing to lend a hand!!!

Thanks SO much,
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Wait, this is turning into a much bigger project and will take more time. I need to do this as my hands are so screaming and other things and I've been wanting to get back to peppermint oil and need to search for good brand for myself.

But I also want to collect a nice set of links. I'll put a few here for you to start if you are so inclined and I'll organize more to it later on. Really, likely I'll never get beyond what is here, though, outta steam.


http://www.vitacost.com/heathers-tummy-care-peppermint-oil

VITACOST.com

Heather's Tummy Care Peppermint Oil -- 90 Enteric Coated Softgels


https://www.tahomadispensary.com/store/3244%21146/Alli-Cinn+60+Capsules

Alli-Cinn 60 Capsules - by Pharmax

Freeze dried garlic concentrate 500 mg (Allium sativum) clove; and Freeze dried cinnamon bark oil concentrate
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PubMed Search:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Peppermint+oil%2C+smooth+muscle

Peppermint oil, smooth muscle - 18 abstracts

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Peppermint%2C+biofilm

Peppermint, Biofilm - 10 abstracts

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Allicin%2C+biofilm

Allicin, Biofilm - 10 abstracts

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Garlic%2C+biofilm

Garlic, Biofilm - 24 abstracts

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Cinnamon%2C+biofilm

Cinnamon, biofilm - 24 abstracts
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He's not talking so much here about ENTERIC COATED capsules as is my focus. In the past, such capsules have helped body pain even beyond the gut. I would never suggest ingesting peppermint oil other than in an enteric coated gelcap / capsule with special coating.

Just for starters:

http://articles.mercola.com/herbal-oils/peppermint-oil.aspx

Peppermint Oil: A Potent Oil with the Power of Menthol

By Dr. Joseph Mercola
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I was just wondering if it should be taken with another herbal product? Like, the Stevia might do some killing, and then there should be something (taken alongside) to mop up the dead spirochetes? I remember a friend telling me that she used the Stevia Leaf extract (drops from study) with something else (herbal), but, unfortunately this friend has moved outside the country/we lost contact. Bummer. Anyone else have other thoughts on this topic to share?

Thank you so much.
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Nothing is intended to be used as a sole agent.

You might refer back to Sapi's work notes. But keep in mind she is not working on this as a full protocol. All researchers have to narrow focus to just one piece at a time.

Get back to your LLMD. You said " My LLMD gave me the stevia leaf extract . . . "

Talk to THEM. They will so far much more than I can guess at. They should be one guiding each point to your protocol. You can ask them about other things that might pique your interest, of course, but go by their directions.

As for some elements of every protocol, though, since you asked what else would go with stevia.

If you take something that helps diminish biofilm, you need something to address the fuller picture, too, the actual spirochete or whatever other shape whatever bad boy microbe is the offender.

As biofilm "melts" the actual microbe is then just waving to you, so to speak, without its raincoat or boots on. Or, more likely, with a leaky boot and a few holes in the raincoat where medicine might then seep in.

Then, you need help in capturing all the metabolic waste (from normal living, our gut stuff moving it all on out -- and also from offender microbe die-off waste) in the gut (and some foods can do this or food based supplements like chlorella) and liver support, etc.
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Thanks again, Keebler. Great analogy w/ the biofilm breakdown, btw!!!
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