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GVS
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Taking olive leaf extract 4X a day doesn't leave much opportunity to take them separately.

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They should be taken apart because the OLE is an antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral herb. You are taking probiotics which are good bacteria, so the OLE would be killing the good bacteria as well as the bad.

Maybe you can take the OLE 3X as opposed to 4X a day.

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Actually, I used to think they needed to be apart, too, but re-read Morton Walker's book recently and found they can be together and that OLE does not destroy good bacteria but actually enhances it.

I will find the reference and be back by day's end with that.

When possible, 4 x day would be better than 3 x. I take the top dose of 16: four capsules of SEAGATE OLE 4 x.

[ 07-01-2017, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

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Thanks, Keebler - very interesting.

My son took OLE separately from probiotics.

I thought top dose of Seagate OLE was 3 caps 3x day.

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Morton Walker's book "Olive Leaf Extract", page 44: citing work of Voorhees, OLE does not kill, rather enhances probiotics.

Find some links for this with a Google search for:

Voorhees "olive leaf extract" yogurt

[the first link result should be for that segment right from Walker's book to see at Google Books]


same book, page 87-88: upper dose, sixteen [though for many, less work well, too]

bottom of page 87, paraphrase, for acute, some have taken three, even four capsules every six hours. . . .

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page 154, every four hours for acute issues. [Of course, this can vary person to person, size, age, and what's going on, etc.]
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I also came across this, as enzyme activity matters:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28463797

Biomed Pharmacother. 2017 Apr 29;91:338-349. doi: 10.1016/j.biopha.2017.04.069.

Olive (Olea europaea) leaf methanolic extract

prevents HCl/ethanol-induced gastritis in rats

by attenuating inflammation and augmenting antioxidant enzyme activities.
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Muchas gracias, Keebler et al.
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I feel like I'd like to be in Greece today though I should have picked a language that could be pronounced, "you are most welcome":

Καλώς ορίσατε, Μεγαλειοτάτη.
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P.S. -- to be effective, the oleuropin content of olive leaf extract needs to be around 20 percent.
Thorne Research's O.L.E. is just that, available at a discount at greenandhealthy.com. Seagate's O.L.E. has a oleuropin content ranging between two and eight percent.

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In his book, Morton Walker discusses how it's best to not have it standardized. When certain elements are messed with to shift the numbers, the synergy of the whole plant's effect can be less in the long run. He says it better than I can, though.

He also has a shorter article that can be found at Townsend Letter, online that may explain it, though his book goes into greater detail.

Also the way that Seagate grows their own and harvests, produces it is much different than some of the standardized numbered formulas on the market.
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Here is the link for the Townsend Newsletter with Dr. Walker's article, "Olive Leaf Extract: Antimicrobial Therapy"

https://secure.seagateproducts.com/images/uploads/pages/File/townsend-letter-may.pdf

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h&p, thanks for that link.
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You're very welcome, Keebler - glad to help.
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quote:
Originally posted by Keebler:
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I feel like I'd like to be in Greece today though I should have picked a language that could be pronounced, "you are most welcome":

Καλώς ορίσατε, Μεγαλειοτάτη.
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How funny to read this - I've been celebrating having travelled to Greece 40 years ago, when I was young and healthy and able to do so! This means visiting Greek places in town for some really good Greek food and catching up with folks about how the country's doing!

"I'm in Mykonos currently" - a beautiful white-washed island with windmills at one end of it.

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I am looking at a painting of Mykonos on our dining room wall as I write!
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