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I hear it's for nerve damage, which I don't know if I have. Just pain. Can it help w/pain too?
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- Everyone who is dealing with chronic lyme has nerve tissue compromise to varying degrees, at the very least it would be nerve tissue inflammation just from the presence of a chronic infection.
The hope is to address the key elements of treatment & support before damage sets in too deep.
All pain involves the nerves, in a way. It's the nerve that transmit the signal that something is wrong by sending pain alerts.
Lion's Mane can be a wonderful helper, yet nerve repair is very slow.
Over the course of months, Lion's Mane it may lessen pain if it helps to heal the nerve tissues. It will take time.
Although if the cause of the nerve pain is not addressed, Lion's Mane Mushroom capsules are not likely to help all the way as it will be unable to really attend to its "job" of tissue repair if the house is still on fire, so to speak.
Infection management, (this must be top of the list)
Do you have a good LLMD? Or a LL ND?
If not, be sure to get Dr. H's newest book and books by Stephen Buhner, too. Directly attending to infection(s) is not the same as support, though, so keep in mind as you seek relief.
Also of help: anti-inflam. diet (gluten free, etc) . . . possible pre-diabetes or diabetes, high blood sugar spikes
oxalates in certain foods, high histamine foods,
posture issues and such all factor into this.
Getting the right kind and amount of magnesium also key. Some people need up to 2,000 mg a day -- but whatever the daily amount, it must be divided into 3 or 4 doses (never all at once).
Lion's Mane is not ideal for the kind of pain relief you seem to be seeking for relatively immediate comfort, though. -
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- Other things that come to mind to help relieve pain, that can be used concurrently with direct infection action -
in addition the right kind and right consistent dose of magnesium include:
Turmeric (or if your gallbladder is good its stronger extract Curcumin) . . . Stinging Nettle LEAF . . .
Gotu Kola . . . Salvia m. (either a top choice for starters as both work on various levels. Both can calm the nervous systems without drowsiness, too. Usually a plus). -
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- The second name matters greatly here. There is a drug like "salvia" that is floating around out in the world of back street drugs but it is not at all the same thing. Just be careful to get this one:
. . . SAFETY ISSUES: Due to mucin-reducing effects, do not use the concentrated extract (curcumin) or oil in high doses, especially if you have bile duct obstruction, gall stones, or stomach ulcers. Use turmeric as a spice freely. . . . -
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STINGING NETTLE LEAF (not root - root is for a different condition) -
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The herb, STINGING NETTLE may serve to compensate for the reaction by calming the the cytokine storm that is often part of a herx reaction. Should also help with the kind of cytokine reaction to the flu. -
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- Be sure to avoid all artificial sweeteners & food additives. They can cause so much pain.
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Check your SHOES to be sure you have excellent arch and foot support with every step. Avoid going barefoot - other than in the shower and to sleep, of course.
Avoid slipper or flip flops around the house as they can make all matters worse. If your feet are not properly aligned & supported this will affect every other joint, fiber, nerve in your body.
.6pm is Zappos "bargain basement" so to speak with pretty good prices. They do not have free returns, though as Zappos does (but their prices are higher).
You can study some of the styles and call local shoe stores (locally owned, hopefully) to inquire as to avail.
Vionic is one particular shoe brand that has a wonderful thick foot bed. But avoid the high heels and go for a loafer style. Even their good foot bed sandals are not the best as the foot can slide and twist with each step if the shoe is not well tailored on the foot.
I do not recommend Birkenstock, though, as they tip the ankle back and can stress some knees.
The INSOLE STORE - best to have a podiatrist recommend, though a good look here at various "models"
Other styles that offer good support can often by found by search on various shoe sites for "plantar fasciitis" a condition that requires excellent foot bed structure.
If at all possible though, first see a good podiatrist and take in the shoes you already have. They need to see how you walk, the specifics of your feet, legs, etc.
You can ask if you need some tutoring for how to best walk, too.
I cannot express strongly enough how much this can matter. It's amazing and refreshing to have good & proper support for feet. -
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I responded to this but I see it didn't post. Grrrr!
Yes I know addressing the cause is most important. Unfortunately my docs don't know it. It's all maybes. Maybe it's lyme, no maybe it's mycoplasma, or maybe it's mitochondrial. They don't think I have Bart but I dunno if I agree. Testing is unreliable so I can't do that. Anythung I've taken hasn't helped yet. Eg curcumin, bcq, bs, my lyme killers,.... Tho I go very slow working up.
I at least want to get rid of the symptoms. This has gone on too long and I'm sick of being anxious and scared daily. It's the reason I applied for disability.
I do have an LLND. Since may 2016 in WI. I have and have read buhners book and why can't I get better. Tho he seems way too focused on tons of abx. My LLND isn't very famiar w buhner. She uses another doc who's name escapes me.
According to Dr Rawls, he thinks testing isn't necessary if treating herbally. That they cover everything. My doc usually says she treats for everything. Tho I know I'm not treating for parasites.
I mentioned those herbs to my regular ND, not a Lyme doc, and he sees no issue but said it's not what he would've thought of for pain. I trust your recs but are they specific for nerve things?
I have seen 2 podiatrists and 1 saw some inflammation via ultrasound, one didn't. The one that dudnt was more recent and supposedly one of the best. He saw I have low arches and no fat padding. I've gotten supportive shoes and inserts.
My lyme doc wants to also retest for lyme to see where it's at.
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- Yes, the items I posted are specific to help support issues around nerve tissue / circulation / inflammation. -
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