My son, who 2 years earlier could not jog 1 lap around a track without chest pains stopping him and myself, who 4 years ago barely had stamina and balance to walk around the block; we summited Mt. Rainier this July! This mountain is considered one of the harder endurance climbs in the lower 48 states.

For my son, this was thanks to Dr. J in New Haven. For myself, it was due to Rife machines. Most importantly, it was due to LYMENET folks communicating what was working for the Lyme community. Thank you Lymenet and all Lyme buddies who have shared their results...good and bad.

We will triumph over Lyme yet!!

Thanks Lyme buddies,

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And thank you for posting it here!

Remember, rife is NOT a cure per se, even doug still rifes a couple of times a year, but it is pretty close to a cure. If I can climb Mt. Rainier and work full time, that is pretty good for me!

For my son the traditional route with abx has worked for him thanks to Dr. J.

HaplyCarlessdave,
We went up the Dissapointment Cleaver route. Did the standard alpine start leaving at 2:00AM in the morning of July 3rd. Summitted around 8:00AM. Returned to Muir around noon, rested the afternoon, then headed down the rest of the way, arriving at Paradise at around 9:00PM

Life is good again! Ernie

Sofy, you are so close to so many good LLMD's in CT and NY I am envious. Good Luck!

Hope ya'll continue to feel great!

I'm wondering how old your son is, how long he was sick before diagnosis, and how long on abx?

Also, if you don't mind - how about for yourself? Did you both herx and at what point in time did you see improvement?

Sorry for all the questions, but my 14 yr old son initially did better with antibiotics, relapsed, and now they don't seem to help - after almost 3 years. We are looking into other modalities.

My son is 16 years old now. We (and Dr. Jones) believe he was born with Lyme as both my wife and I had Lyme when he was conceived. He had learning disabilites from the start. Was not diagnosed until 14 years old. Was failing and in special ed, now C's & B's in mainstream class!! Currently 2.3 years on abx. Saw slow improvement within a few weeks. The antibiotics really did the trick for my son!

For myself:
1987 infected, treated 5 days with abx.
2000 Dec diagnosed
2001-2002 abx, yes herxes, saw immediate improvement, but plateaued. After 2 years switched to rifing. Now have clear head and energy.

Has your son been tested for common coinfections? As you know, often that is the cause for "relapses". Dr. J did complete co-infection workup on my son. Turns out he had bart and some other things which he has been treated for.

Hope this helps.

Ernie

Seemed like a pipe dream cuz I am so sick but since I'm in lower 48 now for treatment thought it would be a goal to shoot for.

Live in Alaska but have been in Alabama near family since an accident (got hit on my mountain bike by a truck) and instead of recovering after 2 surgeries-need more-have gotten very ill.

This technique in not approved by the FDA, nor is accepted by mainstream medicine. The technique has been around since the 30's and is slowly being "rediscovered" by researchers. For example: http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/2000archive/03-00archive/k033000.html

There is a support group on Yahoo that focuses on just Lyme and rife. See http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/. In the file section, of the website, Bryan maintains a list of popular rife devices rated on their effectiviness. This will help you sort out "fact from fiction" on the web.

Most folks (including myself) try the traditional antibiotic route first and then turn to rife only if they do not get better with abx. Some people go directly to rife due to concerns of long term antibiotic therapy.

If you become interested in Rife, there is a rife convention in Seattle October 1-3. See http://www.royalrife.com/

Hope this helps!
Ernie

What's rifing?? Am interested and curious. I haven't started my treatment yet am and looking for alternatives.[/B][/QUOTE]

1) Could you explain what was seen in the microscope? Doug could see the motile spriochetes with the darkfield condenser. He said when he turned on the coil at a Lyme specific frequency, the effect on the bacteria was immediate, they stopped their normal motile motion, and started spinning, mvoing erratically, and finally dying. Again with was with a 400 gauss field at 27 htz, 306 htz and harmonics of these.

From my little work, this is very reasonable. In fact, you can duplicate this to a degree. Just take a student microscope with a 100X objective and a 10X or 15X eye piece, and put in prestained slides of Borrelia burgdorferi from Wards Scientific Catalog. You will see the bacteria...no problem. I have done it with an pertrographic scope and had no issues.

The hard part is trying to see them while they are still alive. Which means you cannot use a stain, which kills the bacteria.

To view live Borrelia bacteria, like Doug did, you need a phase-contrast or darkfield condenser. These usually run for about $500-600 bucks. I have not bought one of these yet.

2) Was this blood with lyme spirochetes in it?
No, these were nutient incubated Bb bacteria. However, the best nuturient agar for growing Bb does contain ~6% calves blood.

3)How was this obtained? When Doug was doing this work, about 10 years ago, he obtained the samples from the CDC.

4) If these bacteria are tissue trophic and professional labs have a hard time finding them in blood, how could an amateur find them? Because he was looking at concentrated colonies in agar, not in blood. This was all that was required for find which frequencies killed the spirochetes.

Lou, I hope this answers your questions in part. I have more information on the best agars to use for Bb, but it is buried, so will take a while to dig it out. If you are truely interested, let me know and I will dig for it.

Take care,

Ernie

Congrats to both you and your son!

This is such a mile stone for all of Lyme sufferers.

So many of us know what it feels like to not be able to walk from a chair to the bathroom.

Let alone climb a mountain.

The most importants thing were
1) getting amalgams out(still have 2 root canals that need to be removed).
2)The abx therapy that bought me time.
3)Rife machine treatments, that have made me feel human again.
4)Lymenet and Bryans Rife/Lyme site, both of which provided support and information on what works and what doesn't.

Good night Lyme Buddies!

I couldn't climb Mt. Rainier BEFORE Lyme!

Encouraging to hear this!

Best of Health to you both and keep us posted!

Good to hear from you too!

I start my dental work on the 16th of this month.

Did you go to a bio-dentist? Did you do chelation before or after?

Did you take abx at anytime during your dental work?

Thanks a bunch!

Ernie, what metals did you detect?

Actually a host of metals were above normal limits. I don't have the list with me but it included Hg, Cu, Zn and some not so common ones.

Did you do chelation for your metals?

Yes, I had chelation shots then took chlorella to get them out of my system.

What method did you use & did you notice improvement from the chelation in addition to RIFE?

I did this chelation while still on abx, ( was on abx for 2 years 2001 & 2002 and ~ 1st quarter of 2003). I don't remember what was used, had the shots at a doctors office. I notice a gradual improvement during the 3 months or so I was actively chelating.

Actaully, think I should probably do it again. We are always taking in metals..yes?

You're an engineer, by trade. IYO,

In fact, I am a geologist, but that is OK.

Is the Doug coil the most efficacious RIFE for the $?

That's the rifer's question. Lot's of different opinions on this. Here's mine:
The doug coil is wonderful, but it is a pain (since I am a geologist not an engineer : and have the electical IQ of a snail), plus you can't get the high frequencies if you want them. SO, I have a doug coil, use it weekly AND would NEVER give it up; BUT I prefer the B3/GB4000 plus amp(an EMEM device would work also)for ease of operation and ability to get higher freq.

For most folks, I think the B3/GB4000 or an EMEM type device will get the results they want without the intellectual stimulation required for a Doug coil.

Hope this helps!

Ernie

Did you go to a bio-dentist?
**No, I just went to my normal dentist, He used a rubber dam and suction. There are better ways to do it, but the bio-dentist didn't take insurance, so I had to make a choice.**

Did you do chelation before or after?

**Mostly after but some before. I had so many fillings it was process. I still have some, but they are covered by crowns.**

Did you take abx at anytime during your dental work?

**Yes, I was on abx during that time**

Have Fun at the dentist, Kathy

The Doug machine is still the anchor for many Lyme folks, when all else fails...go to the Doug coil.

Thanks Bryan for all you have done to help the Lyme community and for the awareness of the Rife technique!!